Personally tested U2312HM.
All I can say is... same shit with other IPS.

In simple, if you're going for gaming, don't go near IPS.
IPS or TN, personally think doesn't make any obvious differences.
IPS has wider viewing angle, so what?
When we're using sure we'll adjust the LCD facing directly to us, right?
Unless you're doing yoga while surfing, then different story already.

Eiyher that or they want to use at mamak stalls

i buy IPS cuz of the color contrast + brightness not the viewing angle

Is there such thing as a Multi-touch monitor with IPS for 30" Monitors ?

I like my http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/product...en&sku=320-6107
3 yrs old , and it still looks GREAT !

if 23inch

Dell ST2320L

same spec as Dell ST2220L only with bigger screen and you only need to add another RM10 ( RM 479 )

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...1603&redirect=1

or

Dell S2330MX Ultra-Slim Monitor with LED

for RM529, this one very slim i bought 1 unit 2 weeks ago for my office computer
however it does not come with HDMI port but Dell provide together with DVI-HDMI dongle

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...2152&redirect=1

The S2330MX really thin and solid, the display is very nice as well.
However, the power source is through an ac adapter, if not mistaken its a 35w ac adapter.
If the ac adapter rosak, its a bit hard to find back the exact one.
Unlike the other LCD which uses normal power cord and can be easily found in computer shop.

Yes thats correct i forget to mention about the adapter, one of the disadvantages..im not aware when buying it after the monitor deliver to my office then i notice it use adapter to supply the power..
If that not bother you i suggest you better buy it..im
Pretty sure you will satisfy with the monitor, why not saving for few bucks and get the best deal out there

Viewing angle matters to those who wants to put their lcd on a table and perhaps lie down to watch a movie or so.

To me, I'm getting it because of the color and brightness and the ability to adjust the position of the screen (portrait / landscape) and the height as well.

Perhaps your eyes are way too sensitive than they should be but from other forums (overclock / [H]ard) users aren't complaining about the U2412M or U2312HM. Maybe it depends on the games that are being played.

I've personally ordered the U2412M and U2312HM. Will test them in terms of gaming when I receive them.

This post has been edited by kembar4: Dec 5 2011, 11:53 PM

This is what I said earlier on.
Fighting gamers can actually feel the lag while inputting commands for moves.
Personally I don't take ghosting effect too much in my concern as I put input-lag as main priority.
I'm not saying that the U's and P's suck, they are good, but for different purposes.
Yes the brightness and the contrast may be vary but barely noticeable.
Note that I've compared all of them side by side:
- AW2310
(Currently using | TN 3ms | Very satisfy. When playing FPS like MW3 I'm able to put it on 120hz for higher quality display)
- U2410
(Personal favorite | IPS 6ms | Because it has all the ports you need and you don't)
- U2312HM
(People's champion | IPS 8ms | Arguably the best LCD so far, in term of price and performance)
- U2711
(Big | IPS 6ms | Horribly high input-lag)
- U3011
(Bigger | IPS 7ms | Best for Japanese action x romance show)
- ST2320L
(Dell cheapest full HD | TN 2ms | Very good price for people who purely want a full HD)
- S2330MX
(Slim | TN 2ms | Super duper slim. The only downside is lack of HDMI port)

Note 2 : That was all my personal opinion, feel free to discuss.

This post has been edited by Shufflerz: Dec 6 2011, 01:01 AM

You mentioned that the U2312HM is people's champion, however in your previous post you mentioned that its the same shit as with the other monitors.

Anyways, a quote from a different forum:



This post has been edited by kembar4: Dec 6 2011, 01:33 AM

It is clearly the people's champion because many people has been recommending this unit all over the place.
By here same shit mean I suffer the same problem I suffered, which is input-lag, just not that serious, but still noticeable.

P/s: the "shit" word doesn't mean no good sometime.

Do you think the Dell ST2320L will offers no input lag? or near to 0?

Depend on what game you're playing.
Its good for general game, but for casual gaming, not on a competitive level.
Its also a good buy if you don't wanna spend too much on LCD.

This post has been edited by Shufflerz: Dec 6 2011, 02:24 AM

Of course i will need something that's near perfections, because i always see those people who play street fighter 4 on LCD TV or even laptops, all the movement are silky smooth and like no input lag, while mine is kinda lag and its obvious

By the way, i'm using AOC e2343F 23", 5ms response time.

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Dec 6 2011, 02:35 AM

Have you try the in game graphic settings?
I realized that those suppose-to-make-your-graphic-nicer settings will disturb the input-lag. (for PC)
I forgot the exact setting to minimal the input lag but I feel these are the keys.
- Vsync: Off
- AA: Off
- Framerate: Fixed
Try out and see again if its the setting kacau, I'll give you a more detail settings after work.

Vsync is a notorious lag inducer for FPS, Fighting and racing games.

Wow.IPS panel kena bash by Shufflerz.

My personal opinion, once you tried IPS panel, you can see how pale TN panel in comparison.
And you could only get the same color accuracy with really really high end lcd tv which cost rm10k and above, and even then, its still not as good as IPS.

To those that are buying new monitors, if you never tried IPS yet, you wont regret it.
You will know colors as they are supposed to look like.

And dont be scared to buy cos its notorious reputation of "not good for gaming".Those only apply for really ancient IPS with ghosting that last for 1 sec...lolz.
In truth, only a small percentage of ppl are able to discern input lag and ghosting with current IPS.Most ppl dont even notice them.
AND ghosting only applies with fast motion.The only fast motion in fps is when doing fast turns, and with ghosting, you'll get dizzy, thats all.

Out of my whole family and friends that watch action movies and play games using my u2410, only I get dizzy if the game mode is not turned on.

Trust me, game mode will get the job done in improving response time and input lag.
Sometimes, the so called input lag are from the games themselves.You could see yourself here (search for input lag)
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2410.htm
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalf...s-battlefield-3

The max input lag for u2410, standard mode, is 40ms, and the fastest fps there is, MW3 is 50ms.
Did you see there? The fastest fps this gen also slower than the supposedly "high" input lag monitor.
You dont even need to turn on game mode if you experience no ghosting.

You can check the input lag of monitors here, fairly reliable
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
For games, you can google for digital foundry articles by Eurogamer, they usually do input lag tests.
You can try searching for input lag for games that you play and compare them to the monitors youre gonna buy.
Youre in the okay if the said monitor game mode max input lag < the game youre playing's input lag.

iirc, 50ms = 3 frames.
Most ppl cant even discern the lag between MW3 50ms and BF3 116ms (which is about 3 frames)

guys..

is AOC E2351FH a good choice for gaming?
my budget around rm500

well, i'm going to use the monitor for my alienware laptop not to a pc computer