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post Jan 2 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Jan 2 2013, 06:40 PM)
Hey Guys, may I know how you all manage the bank accounts? There's this Everyday account and Savings account, do you guys just dump everything to Savings and transfer to your everyday account?
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i start to use Ubank savings when they were giving 6.10% interest. it is now drop to 4.66% sad.gif

so yes, i put my savings to savings account and leave some to everyday account(CBA)

QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 2 2013, 06:54 PM)
I got PR but don't feel like going. Anybody want to buy my PR? I apply for fun and got it.

I hear a lot of crap stories from friends who go there and forced to work for sub-standard jobs and then face racism from the white aussies. Some of my frens there kena scolded by racist aussie bosses and forced to quit.
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post Jan 2 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 2 2013, 05:17 PM)
i start to use Ubank savings when they were giving 6.10% interest. it is now drop to 4.66% sad.gif

so yes, i put my savings to savings account and leave some to everyday account(CBA)
i will buy from you if you found a way on how to sell it  whistling.gif
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My parents pushing me to go but I don't wanna go. How lah? rclxub.gif

I just visit melbourne last year, damn boring city.

I open newspaper to find job and find that no employer directly advertise, all jobs have to go through job search/recruitment firms, damn sien.

Then some of my friends migrated there as manager, go there and take up substandard job as clerks, execs, restaurant helpers. Gosh is this the dream life?

Another friend, he and wife migrated there, stayed for 2 years, came back to msia recently, didn't even get any savigns because all spent on rental.
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:41 PM)
My parents pushing me to go but I don't wanna go. How lah?  rclxub.gif

I just visit melbourne last year, damn boring city.

I open newspaper to find job and find that no employer directly advertise, all jobs have to go through job search/recruitment firms, damn sien.

Then some of my friends migrated there as manager, go there and take up substandard job as clerks, execs, restaurant helpers. Gosh is this the dream life?

Another friend, he and wife migrated there, stayed for 2 years, came back to msia recently, didn't even get any savigns because all spent on rental.
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hihihehe came to melbourne to study with no intention at all to stay after graduated. try my luck for working opportunities in melbourne after graduation with temporary visa and quite depressing that not able to find a job that suitable(working part time in mobile shop). non-stop spamming my CV(not advisable) for 6 months and managed to find good pay job back to the place where i graduated. unfortunately i not eligible for PR and i willing to pay u $10k for your PR tongue.gif

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post Jan 2 2013, 08:15 PM

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Just to share... Why did I look at Australia as an option?

- work life balance (definitely will have time for family/hobbies)
- better security (pensions, govt allowances are there to help)
- cheaper cost of living (to me I think dollar for dollar wise goods are cheaper in Australia? Labour and people services are more expensive I know. But we WILL have time to cook or buy cheaper frozen food to microwave if in a rush?)
- currency strength (I probably can go on trips to Europe, Japan or Korea more easily if I earn in AUD compared to MYR?)
- I really don't know what will happen to Malaysia in the next 5-10 years...

Some sacrifices to be made:
- leaving family behind (parents, siblings)
- leaving friends behind (but got some frenz in Australia too)
- to "start all over"

Definitely not easy decision.. but sometimes you have to take the tough choice, for the long-term..
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post Jan 2 2013, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Jan 2 2013, 08:15 PM)
Just to share... Why did I look at Australia as an option?

- work life balance (definitely will have time for family/hobbies)
- better security (pensions, govt allowances are there to help)
- cheaper cost of living (to me I think dollar for dollar wise goods are cheaper in Australia? Labour and people services are more expensive I know.  But we WILL have time to cook or buy cheaper frozen food to microwave if in a rush?)
- currency strength (I probably can go on trips to Europe, Japan or Korea more easily if I earn in AUD compared to MYR?)
- I really don't know what will happen to Malaysia in the next 5-10 years...

Some sacrifices to be made:
- leaving family behind (parents, siblings)
- leaving friends behind (but got some frenz in Australia too)
- to "start all over"

Definitely not easy decision.. but sometimes you have to take the tough choice, for the long-term..
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Before u look at Australia as an option, determine if you can actually obtain a job and PR there first.
If you can go ahead. If you can't, better head home
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Jan 2 2013, 08:15 PM)
Just to share... Why did I look at Australia as an option?

- work life balance (definitely will have time for family/hobbies)
- better security (pensions, govt allowances are there to help)
- cheaper cost of living (to me I think dollar for dollar wise goods are cheaper in Australia? Labour and people services are more expensive I know.  But we WILL have time to cook or buy cheaper frozen food to microwave if in a rush?)
- currency strength (I probably can go on trips to Europe, Japan or Korea more easily if I earn in AUD compared to MYR?)
- I really don't know what will happen to Malaysia in the next 5-10 years...

Some sacrifices to be made:
- leaving family behind (parents, siblings)
- leaving friends behind (but got some frenz in Australia too)
- to "start all over"

Definitely not easy decision.. but sometimes you have to take the tough choice, for the long-term..
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Very true.. Which is why we are going to migrate to Aust at end of Feb after CNY. Sometimes it's not just about money (altho money plays an important role smile.gif vicious cycle isn't it?).

It is not an easy decision but we are willing to give it a go. I am bringing my wife and our 2yo daughter. I've already got a job, starting in March. We are Australian PR and we have a house there (previously rented out). It's scary yet exciting. Anyway one can only hope for the best.

Which part of Aust are you in?

This post has been edited by apple2011: Jan 3 2013, 12:50 AM
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post Jan 3 2013, 03:32 AM

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damn, all coming to australia.... But Im going back for gd.
for those who have no more than 2 or 3 years experience in their field, i guess its no point coming over.
i graduated frm perth in 2011, been working in a very small company as graduate mechanical engineer, recently just got sacked due to the lack of projects.
my issue is I got only 1 year experience, cant get any interview opportunity out there
thing doesnt sounds too bad until i heard three of my frens who work in GHD, Aecom, and bhp also got sacked (1 of them now working as pizza deliverer )


so, for those coming in to oz, gd luck to yall in job finding as mining industry is not as gd as before.


Added on January 3, 2013, 4:13 amBtw, after reading so many comments, my guts feeeling to Australia is that:

Pros
1. Australia is an enjoyable place if u like a laid back life style, no rush, no anything. ( compare to sg n mas ).
2. You got human rights, you got paid if you OT. (UNIONs protect yr rights against employers, these unions would scare the hell out of yr employers)
3. You can earn 3x money than malaysia. Bring yr money back to malaysia, you would divide the price tag by three when you go anywhere in malaysia. I bet anyone working here would have experienced the same thing.
4. Gd for those ppl who doesnt want to open businesses. Small businesses are hard to survive in Aus. Too much laws n regulations. Payrate is too high even for a normal worker.

Cons
1. Lonely, no true frens. (all my besties are in malaysia, even GF)
2. Too KAMPONG. (at least its for Perth)
3. No nightlife (my nightlife 'definition' is mamak or dai-chao, im sick of maccas n jacks), pubs n bars are everywhere but i bet 1 day u'll sick of it too.
4. Racism ( damn ABOS r everywhere, huan gia are relatively better and gentle than them. Careful when they approach u, they'll ether ask
a. Can u spare me two dollars?
b. Can u spare me a ciggarettes?
5. Hard to survive if open a business. ( Reasons stated above)


Added on January 3, 2013, 4:17 amN forget about australia if you havent get a job or visa. (preferable PR rather than TR)


Added on January 3, 2013, 4:21 amOhh ya, anyone working in mechanical engineering field? Care to tell me whether yr company has vancancy for a graduate mechanical engineer?


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post Jan 3 2013, 08:17 AM

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come Sydney. Perth and Sydney are totally two different country, if you like life in KL then you should feel the same in Sydney.

And replying to this:
- I really don't know what will happen to Malaysia in the next 5-10 years...

It is the same in Australia. Australia is a very backward country and just dependent on mining and agriculture. That could end in the very near future and when it ends, Australia are totally not prepared for it. It does not have the infrastructure, people or technology at all. Obvious way to put it, any people looking for a little technology innovations would seek opportunities in US, in the financial sector, people are moving to uk and asia.

So I've always said the same thing. Don't come to Australia for career or the money, you can possibly be better off in Malaysia. Come for the lifestyle and country, as that is the only thing you can't find in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Jan 3 2013, 11:17 AM)
come Sydney. Perth and Sydney are totally two different country, if you like life in KL then you should feel the same in Sydney.

And replying to this:
- I really don't know what will happen to Malaysia in the next 5-10 years...

It is the same in Australia. Australia is a very backward country and just  dependent on mining and agriculture. That could end in the very near future and when it ends, Australia are totally not prepared for it. It does not have the infrastructure, people or technology at all. Obvious way to put it, any people looking for a little technology innovations would seek opportunities in US, in the financial sector, people are moving to uk and asia.

So I've always said the same thing. Don't come to Australia for career or the money, you can possibly be better off in Malaysia. Come for the lifestyle and country, as that is the only thing you can't find in Malaysia.
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agree

good thing in australia now is the AUD$ is pretty strong(slightly higher than USD). not sure how long it will last.

can see many hongkies and korean migrate to australia as well. asked some of the hongkie friends why they come here. the reason is they can't find any benefits in hong kong. very competitive country with less benefit to citizens. not able to save money due to very low interest from banks. property investment and share market are the only way to grow money but they are risky
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post Jan 3 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Jan 3 2013, 09:17 AM)
come Sydney. Perth and Sydney are totally two different country, if you like life in KL then you should feel the same in Sydney.

And replying to this:
- I really don't know what will happen to Malaysia in the next 5-10 years...

It is the same in Australia. Australia is a very backward country and just  dependent on mining and agriculture. That could end in the very near future and when it ends, Australia are totally not prepared for it. It does not have the infrastructure, people or technology at all. Obvious way to put it, any people looking for a little technology innovations would seek opportunities in US, in the financial sector, people are moving to uk and asia.

So I've always said the same thing. Don't come to Australia for career or the money, you can possibly be better off in Malaysia. Come for the lifestyle and country, as that is the only thing you can't find in Malaysia.
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Thats why i dunno whether wanna go or not. This stupid PR is a burden, my folks have been pushing me to go.

I am not saying msia is a bed of roses but at least i am doing some ok ok work here.

I've visited some churches in australia and found that the PRs there are not very helpful to fellow PRs.

Heck even my cousin there refuse to see me because he is afraid i may ask to bunk in with him although i have a family fren who lives in geelong willing to give me a room.

I went to melb, the weather sucks, its dark all the time, the place is depressing. No doubt the city is clean but its darn boring.

Apply for jobs...situation sucks. You have to go through the recruitment agencies, you don't even know who you working for until you attend the second interview. Waste of time, too many levels.

And yeah, all my friends are in msia.

I dunno man, i have until 2015 and time is slipping...


Added on January 3, 2013, 9:59 am
QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 2 2013, 07:57 PM)
hihihehe came to melbourne to study with no intention at all to stay after graduated. try my luck for working opportunities in melbourne after graduation with temporary visa and quite depressing that not able to find a job that suitable(working part time in mobile shop). non-stop spamming my CV(not advisable) for 6 months and managed to find good pay job back to the place where i graduated. unfortunately i not eligible for PR and i willing to pay u $10k for your PR tongue.gif
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I cannot understand you can't get a PR. My cousin just graduated from deakin univ, but he is jobless for 3 years and still can get a PR.

Yeah, the job situation is really bad. Get substandard jobs if you want a life tehre.

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 3 2013, 12:57 PM)
Thats why i dunno whether wanna go or not. This stupid PR is a burden, my folks have been pushing me to go.

I am not saying msia is a bed of roses but at least i am doing some ok ok work here.

I've visited some churches in australia and found that the PRs there are not very helpful to fellow PRs.

Heck even my cousin there refuse to see me because he is afraid i may ask to bunk in with him although i have a family fren who lives in geelong willing to give me a room.

I went to melb, the weather sucks, its dark all the time, the place is depressing. No doubt the city is clean but its darn boring.

Apply for jobs...situation sucks. You have to go through the recruitment agencies, you don't even know who you working for until you attend the second interview. Waste of time, too many levels.

And yeah, all my friends are in msia.

I dunno man, i have until 2015 and time is slipping...


Added on January 3, 2013, 9:59 am

I cannot understand you can't get a PR. My cousin just graduated from deakin univ, but he is jobless for 3 years and still can get a PR.

Yeah, the job situation is really bad. Get substandard jobs if you want a life tehre.
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PR is not easy compare to last few years. the reason is simple for my case. occupation not in SOL list and full stop.

it only dark when daylight saving starts. DST was ended last 2 months and i quite like it. it start to get dark after 8:30pm so i still can enjoy sunlight after work. weather is a b**** though. prepare for 37c tomorrow sad.gif

malaysia is awesome for me too but most of my friends are busy with their works(need to work at saturday as well? gosh).
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I don't know why so many Malaysians like Melbourne. Just come Sydney, the weather here is great and a lot more stuff to do here.

As for a job, you won't know if you don't try. It is hard but not impossible. There are people that can get a job straight away and some takes longer. But if he is 3 years jobless, that is not an issue with the job market but down to the person.


Added on January 3, 2013, 11:37 amAnyway, a lot of job opening are direct to employer, not through agency. You just need to find it and it isn't exactly hard to find.

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 2 2013, 03:54 PM)
I got PR but don't feel like going. Anybody want to buy my PR? I apply for fun and got it.

I hear a lot of crap stories from friends who go there and forced to work for sub-standard jobs and then face racism from the white aussies. Some of my frens there kena scolded by racist aussie bosses and forced to quit.
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Well, i heard more crapped stories from malaysia too. Wanna listen?
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Seriously, working in Australia is that bad? I am planning to work there in future
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QUOTE(divine061 @ Jan 3 2013, 02:36 PM)
I don't know why so many Malaysians like Melbourne. Just come Sydney, the weather here is great and a lot more stuff to do here.

As for a job, you won't know if you don't try. It is hard but not impossible. There are people that can get a job straight away and some takes longer. But if he is 3 years jobless, that is not an issue with the job market but down to the person.


Added on January 3, 2013, 11:37 amAnyway, a lot of job opening are direct to employer, not through agency. You just need to find it and it isn't exactly hard to find.
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went to sydney for holiday and honestly, not much different compare to KL. busy city with rude people everywhere, bad traffic, not that clean and public transport not that great compare to melbourne.

the thing i like about sydney is shopping. can easily find the thing that i want in sydney CBD


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QUOTE(off_shore @ Jan 3 2013, 02:54 PM)
Seriously, working in Australia is that bad? I am planning to work there in future
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then what makes you consider australia?


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QUOTE(off_shore @ Jan 3 2013, 02:54 PM)
Seriously, working in Australia is that bad? I am planning to work there in future
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then what makes you consider australia?

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 3 2013, 12:01 PM)
went to sydney for holiday and honestly, not much different compare to KL. busy city with rude people everywhere, bad traffic, not that clean and public transport not that great compare to melbourne.

the thing i like about sydney is shopping. can easily find the thing that i want in sydney CBD


Added on January 3, 2013, 12:02 pm
then what makes you consider australia?


Added on January 3, 2013, 12:02 pm
then what makes you consider australia?
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exactly what I meant. Not much different from KL, cause the post are complaining that Melbourne is too quiet, so why not try Sydney?
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hi,
whats the prospect of a uk fresh grad, with no australian visa, to get an architectural or design related job in australia, especially in a growing city like perth?
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QUOTE(divine061 @ Jan 3 2013, 12:22 PM)
exactly what I meant. Not much different from KL, cause the post are complaining that Melbourne is too quiet, so why not try Sydney?
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There's additional which KL don't have. They'll rob you like nobody business. When we're in sydney near Redfern, we actually fight with aborigines for the reason they wanna rob us. 4 of us can't even fight them coz 1 of them is damn huge (2 person size). The other 2 is same size as asian. Well, we managed to escape and report to police. The police told us we've been lucky to stay alive. WTF?!?
Well, wat i can say is sydney you have to stay away from 'The Block' near city centre.
Druggies and drunken people everywhere. Somewhere like chow kit.
We went to Pitt Street during midnite for a drink, wat it used to be beautiful scene during the day, turn to be beggars/homeless scavenging around.
I think others shouldn't be an issue, enjoy the beach and weather.
People wise...hmm...i've yet to overcome any racism there but however, 'mind of your own business' type. If you like KL, this would be the place


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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Jan 3 2013, 01:45 PM)
hi,
whats the prospect of a uk fresh grad, with no australian visa, to get an architectural or design related job in australia, especially in a growing city like perth?
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Check in DIAC website, c wat's ur visa options

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 2 2013, 12:00 AM)
I suggest you to find a place near parramatta,ryde, rydalmere, ermington or rosehill which is quite close since you have a car

rhodes, silverwater is near but freakin expensive unless you know the houseowners thre

pm me if you do need some property rental agent as i can hook some up for you but pls do your own research whreabouts you wanna stay
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Thanks. Any 'dark' places I should avoid around that area?

I'll let you know once I get everything confirmed.

Quite confused with their property type. What's the difference between a 'unit' and an apartment?


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post Jan 3 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 2 2013, 04:17 PM)
i start to use Ubank savings when they were giving 6.10% interest. it is now drop to 4.66% sad.gif

so yes, i put my savings to savings account and leave some to everyday account(CBA)
i will buy from you if you found a way on how to sell it  whistling.gif
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Ic..But I read somewhere that interest is taxable right?

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