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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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post May 19 2015, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 18 2015, 03:14 PM)
Australia is very backward but there's good side and $hit. Malaysia is a great country but happens that the shitty government mismanage and is sucks or else we're a great nation already!
Australia is like abang adik with Malaysia government but the good thing is if you speak out and screw the government, at least they'll scared of ye.
Talk about working experience. They don't really give a shit on your Malaysia experience. They wanna know what's your Ozzie experience is and offer you junior post. It's not racist or sort of but it's about adapting the local working culture.
For instance i used to build skyscrapers in KL but end up here building small houses. Yeah, small house. When i showed my past project to my colleague, they just dropping their jaw and asking why am i here. Children and family mate.....it's all about that. One of the generation have to sacrifice their career for their future though.
Australia is not doing good now....Malaysia is not doing good as well....anyway, good luck to everyone who wanna jump over here.
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I thought I told you this 2 years ago? Haha.
The future is in SG, china and HK NOT Aus. Education? I don't think Aus education is exceptionally good if you compare with SG. At least yr kids will be bilingual in SG. More options for them in future. Aus is a good place to retire though. Once you have saved up in SG. And I'm pretty sure in 10-15 years time 1sgd = 1aud if not more
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 19 2015, 03:47 PM)
I thought I told you this 2 years ago? Haha.
The future is in SG, china and HK NOT Aus. Education? I don't think Aus education is exceptionally good if you compare with SG. At least yr kids will be bilingual in SG. More options for them in future. Aus is a good place to retire though. Once you have saved up in SG. And I'm pretty sure in 10-15 years time 1sgd = 1aud if not more
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Yes, the future is very bright in SG, China and HK. So is the education.
Question is, are you willing to sacrifice your entire life to yr job? 8am - 2am, weekends. If in sales, karaoke, partying with clients, weekends, weekdays. No time for family. If in backoffice, then work, work til very late. No time for family.
As for education, yes undoubtedly it is of high standard, question is willing to drill yr child to endless tuition, stress? Do you want yr children just to excel in academics and not sports as well? If they cannot perform academically what are their options in SG, China and HK?

To each their own.

Many have been burnt out. That is one of the many reasons why ppl choose to give away their career and settle down here.

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ May 19 2015, 01:02 PM)
If in sales, karaoke, partying with clients, weekends, weekdays.
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If only lol
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post May 19 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ May 19 2015, 01:02 PM)
Yes, the future is very bright in SG, China and HK. So is the education.
Question is, are you willing to sacrifice your entire life to yr job? 8am - 2am, weekends. If in sales, karaoke, partying with clients, weekends, weekdays. No time for family. If in backoffice, then work, work til very late. No time for family.
As for education, yes undoubtedly it is of high standard, question is willing to drill yr child to endless tuition, stress? Do you want yr children just to excel in academics and not sports as well? If they cannot perform academically what are their options in SG, China and HK?

To each their own.

Many have been burnt out. That is one of the many reasons why ppl choose to give away their career and settle down here.
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I don't know what you are talking about but Singaporeans I know have very good work life balance. They rarely work past 8pm and they reach home in 45 min time max. But if you're talking about trying to close a big account, I don't see how Australia could be different. You will still need to do extra to close that big account whether you are in Australia or Singapore or anywhere in the world where there is competition. Not like if you are in Australia you can say to heck with it I'm going home at 5.30pm sharp and the big account will miraculously close itself...



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post May 19 2015, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ May 15 2015, 01:42 PM)
Before calling Australia backward. Does Malaysia accept  foreign experience??? Last year, someone in this forum  told me don't even bother to "come back" cause Malaysian employers don't accept foreign experience. The person also whined and complained that OZ not accepting Malaysian experience.
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Everywhere is the same. They value local experience. Its not like you can go to the USA and they will offer you a high 5 digit senior management role even if you are in the same role and earning the same package dollar to ringgit in Malaysian company in Malaysia.
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post May 19 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(static @ May 16 2015, 06:27 PM)
I found mine within a week or so, with only 3 years working experience (that was 4 years ago). It's not impossible, i was shocked too when they offered me the job on the spot, I thought I flunked the interview but the managers thought otherwise. They didn't even look at my degree d'oh. All they care was my work experience and how I presented myself. Still grateful that they gave me the opportunity and I'm still in the same team!  ohmy.gif
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if u dont mind bro, which field are u in? do u get the offer in the city? i plan to work in melbourne in construction field. do u think i got chance?
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post May 20 2015, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 19 2015, 12:47 PM)
I thought I told you this 2 years ago? Haha.
The future is in SG, china and HK NOT Aus. Education? I don't think Aus education is exceptionally good if you compare with SG. At least yr kids will be bilingual in SG. More options for them in future. Aus is a good place to retire though. Once you have saved up in SG. And I'm pretty sure in 10-15 years time 1sgd = 1aud if not more
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Well, I'm pretty happy here to be honest. I got both job offers in China, HK & SG but i turn it down. Yeah, they could offer very high pay to me 6 digits/annum. How are you settle your childrens education yes they could offer something good but something missing in these cities. You could have world class working experience and salary but not something which you could offer to your kids.
It's global trend that Oz is not doing well now but i'm pretty confident on their backup plan.
I met up with a Ozzie lady came back from China who worked 6 years in Shanghai. Yeah, she is well paid and with lavish lifestyle but she decide to move back to Oz. Something missing there somehow which everyone knew it.

SG is doing absolutely well but for how long? Wait for the Thailand latest canal open and i would like to see is there any backup plan for MAS & SG
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post May 20 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 19 2015, 10:17 PM)
I don't know what you are talking about but Singaporeans I know have very good work life balance. They rarely work past 8pm and they reach home in 45 min time max. But if you're talking about trying to close a big account, I don't see how Australia could be different. You will still need to do extra to close that big account whether you are in Australia or Singapore or anywhere in the world where there is competition. Not like if you are in Australia you can say to heck with it I'm going home at 5.30pm sharp and the big account will miraculously close itself...
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Well, check on construction industry mate. Check on what's the statistic you got.
Yes, here work 8-5pm and account close by itself.

This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: May 20 2015, 09:17 AM
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If the canal plans take root and complete without a hitch, we will see a major economic transformation in the SEA landscape.

Our ports as well in SG will be badly affected. This in turn will have a major impact on the local economies.
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post May 20 2015, 10:34 AM

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If the canal plans take root and complete without a hitch, we will see a major economic transformation in the SEA landscape.

Our ports as well in SG will be badly affected. This in turn will have a major impact on the local economies.
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Nah I doubt so and I'll tell you why.
2 reasons why SG is an entrepot that very few can rival
1) Clean, transparent and firm law of land.
2) Superior infrastructure and supporting industry. Just coz you have a canal dosen't mean anything without skilled labour, docks, shipyards, etc

Both of which Thailand lacks
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 20 2015, 09:16 AM)
Well, check on construction industry mate. Check on what's the statistic you got.
Yes, here work 8-5pm and account close by itself.
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If so the unemployment rate won't be so high in aus. Everyone will be a hot shot millionaire coz the big accounts close by themselves, no?
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 20 2015, 10:34 AM)
Nah I doubt so and I'll tell you why.
2 reasons why SG is an entrepot that very few can rival
1) Clean, transparent and firm law of land.
2) Superior infrastructure and supporting industry. Just coz you have a canal dosen't mean anything without skilled labour, docks, shipyards, etc

Both of which Thailand lacks
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I tend to agree on the skilled labor, but for sure skilled labor will move over to thailand, with the backing of china on this project i doubt they would have any issues attracting skilled labor .

Skilled or not skilled go where they are needed not the other way around
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post May 20 2015, 12:16 PM

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Alright gents, lets not argue whether Australia or any other place is a good place or not. Just enjoy wherever you are smile.gif

Live and work at Malaysia, Singapore, and now Australia and travel between countries for work, i can say, each place have their own pros and cons.
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QUOTE(underGr0und_8 @ May 20 2015, 12:16 PM)
Alright gents, lets not argue whether Australia or any other place is a good place or not. Just enjoy wherever you are smile.gif

Live and work at Malaysia, Singapore, and now Australia and travel between countries for work, i can say, each place have their own pros and cons.
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QUOTE(selvenz @ May 20 2015, 11:37 AM)
I tend to agree on the skilled labor, but for sure skilled labor will move over to thailand, with the backing of china on this project i doubt they would have any issues attracting skilled labor .

Skilled or not skilled go where they are needed not the other way around
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Not true. Between the SG, Thailand and msia vying for talents in port management, most if not all will choose SG.Not withstanding the strong SGD against THB in terms of family, safety and education, sg triumphs thailand anytime. Plus language and culture also hard to understand if yr not native thai.
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QUOTE(hanknives @ May 19 2015, 10:34 PM)
if u dont mind bro, which field are u in? do u get the offer in the city? i plan to work in melbourne in construction field. do u think i got chance?
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Alamak i'm not bro lah tongue.gif I'm in banking so yes, it's in the city.

Construction? As in surveyor, manager, labourer, engineer, etc? Have no friends in construction though sweat.gif

TBH, i would say that if you can get a visa, why not? Give it a shot and see how it goes. Bunk with friends if possible, don't be picky about job offers and give it your best. Just take it as an opportunity for a better future, otherwise at least you gave it a shot.
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 20 2015, 10:34 AM)
Nah I doubt so and I'll tell you why.
2 reasons why SG is an entrepot that very few can rival
1) Clean, transparent and firm law of land.
2) Superior infrastructure and supporting industry. Just coz you have a canal dosen't mean anything without skilled labour, docks, shipyards, etc

Both of which Thailand lacks
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The impact will be reduced the transit time same as panama and suez canal.

But as the news "It is unlikely for the Kra Canal project to be materialised anytime soon."
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapa...al/1856758.html


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QUOTE(static @ May 20 2015, 08:37 PM)
Alamak i'm not bro lah  tongue.gif I'm in banking so yes, it's in the city.

Construction? As in surveyor, manager, labourer, engineer, etc? Have no friends in construction though  sweat.gif

TBH, i would say that if you can get a visa, why not? Give it a shot and see how it goes. Bunk with friends if possible, don't be picky about job offers and give it your best. Just take it as an opportunity for a better future, otherwise at least you gave it a shot.
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Opss, sory. no wonder u hv a good chance in an interview. tongue.gif jk.

im a supervisor actually. i can do building and interior. i guess better chance is to be there and get an interview right. yup but no friends sad.gif
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Anybody here resides in perth? We should have a gathering smile.gif
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