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post Mar 5 2014, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 07:19 PM)

hmm.gif bringing in migrants to speculate in Aust property sector, wouldn't that encourage more speculation? Most of these people are rich china people who splurge in the property sector to make money, they probably buy several properties but not live in them..that may create an artificial demand that would hike up prices.

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yeah, the wealthy Chinese push up prices. but if they are really rich, with many paying cash, it shouldn't be a big problem. socially yes, it creates differences in wealth and young people cannot afford houses. but it doesn't hurt the market that much, because banks are very careful, no one is over-borrowing to buy houses, and prices are actually quite sustainable (they may be very expensive, but not outrageously overvalued). it helps their construction sector (which helps drive the economy), because it stimulates supply side investment.

they are closely watching house prices... some see double digit (27%) growth in just one year... they are scared to increase rates as that might slow the economy
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 06:52 PM)
err, if u have to spend $4k a month on rental in places like melb...48k a year...wouldn't that be low?

correct me if i am wrong, i've seen $1k a week rental for 2 room apartments in gumtree before.
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you were probably looking for those luxury apartments and i am not surprised. you can even get a decent 2 br apartment for $600pw

QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 06:54 PM)
kinda odd..cause with my job experience...i qualify but no Aussie bloke would want to hire me because they discount my malaysian job experience, even though i worked for numerous MNCs.
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i don't know why but yes, they don't really accept overseas experience. i even saw an indian lady with 10 years of experience in IBM india struggling to look for a job in australia and end up she looking for helpdesk job

QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 07:01 PM)
is Aust employment getting from bad to worst?

hearing news of toyota closing plant - more car manufacturers will follow suit, will cause 50k loss of jobs.

then qantas also want to retrench 4k staff due to losses.

already ANZ bank retrench 2k workers some time back.

china growth is slowing down, coal prices fall, china's currency devalue 1.3%. Aust economy is very reliant on china growth..so would this affect the booming mining sector badly? Maybe its coming to an end.

I just don't understand, why is Aust bringing in so many migrants? I got friends with IT diploma, some don't even have degree - got bank job experience, even can get PR. Aust don't have a manufacturing base...their exchange rate so high, makes it impractical to have manufacturing plants in the country. therefore, where is the sector that needs to hire migrants the most? The mining sector? but i don't hear news of many of my PR friends ever taking mining jobs because they ldon't want to live in some god forsaken town in Western Aust.

everybody wants to live in the city. so am i right to say, only jobs that are available to migrants are those entry level jobs, Aussies don't want to take up? Just like here in malaysia, we locals don't want to work in the mamak as waiters, so the mamaks hire migrants from india.

so what is proping up the employment scene in Aust? the service sector can't be sustaining the employment?
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i would say employment level in australia is getting worst. people who want to migrate there normally looking for a better country(compared to india,pakistan,malaysia,etc). even a malaysian politician advised malaysian to go out if you don't like this country. go figure


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post Mar 5 2014, 08:51 PM

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Market is very saturated. Singapore not easy to find work. Canada housing market is crazy, may be about to shift, but skilled labour again is hard. Not like Malaysia has that many great opportunities - or there wouldn't be that many people looking elsewhere. Except maybe they will be more accepting.
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post Mar 6 2014, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 06:54 PM)
kinda odd..cause with my job experience...i qualify but no Aussie bloke would want to hire me because they discount my malaysian job experience, even though i worked for numerous MNCs.
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That's usually quite standard lah.

But then again it applies back home as well, I mintak from SG and MY firms tarak reply one. Marthafarkerssssss......

QUOTE(LightningFist @ Mar 5 2014, 08:51 PM)
Market is very saturated. Singapore not easy to find work. Canada housing market is crazy, may be about to shift, but skilled labour again is hard. Not like Malaysia has that many great opportunities - or there wouldn't be that many people looking elsewhere. Except maybe they will be more accepting.
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Let's hope that a strong recovery for all sectors will bring in more jobs. The future looks bright here in QLD with gas prices going up and other sectors such as tourism and manufacturing making a comeback.

But I'm somewhat unhappy that the status of the RAN moving to Brisbane has been put on the backburner by politicians as that would mean thousands of new jobs and a shot in the arm for the economy.
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 6 2014, 05:24 PM)
i am not sure whether want to go or not..i kena scolded by my family for allowing my PR to expire.

But since u tell me, if my pr expire i will never get a chance again...how ah?

i thinking of asking for extension but i dun hv good excuse

also i not willing to leave msia, leave my speciality of accounting work to go to aust for entry level job. so far my frens who migrated there didn't exactly get any worthwhile jobs. Total mismatch, like engineer work as coffee barista and accountant work as librarian.

my father had a near death experience last year, i managed to save his life at 11th hour when i brought him to hospital to take emergency surgery. So its matters like this that cause me to wonder what if i am away, how to take care of my parents? i
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i agree with you about mismatch, especially if your skills or experience are not appreciated. some people with 5 to 8 years experience, don't get recognised. sure, maybe the employers can't believe or accept all of it.

how or why did you let PR expire?

sounds like it's going to be hard on you if you move. i believe the costs are high in Australia, too, but I am entry level so I may be different from you - I find that entry level is competitive everywhere but Australia's prospects are good, IF you are so bloody lucky that you find work

whereas many people have to muck around doing random jobs because they could not find skilled work
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post Mar 6 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 25 2014, 02:32 PM)
Since you're in that sector it may be the way to go. I've got a lot of Singaporean buddies here, ex-WFT, Halli, Schlum and Exxon working here at QGC and they always say that if you're into banking, go SG.

Whatever the case I suggest 485 visa. Use your 1.5 years to find someone that will sponsor you.....or knock up a local....I mean I've had friends do it and they're pretty happy biggrin.gif
Not sure about nowadays, so it might be stricter. Either way the government has been on the warpath since 2009 to reduce migration numbers but increase temp visa numbers.
56000 AUD per annum is lower than average graduate salary man....
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empire bro...how is the prospect for Geoscience ( Geology & geophysics) in Australia?
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post Mar 6 2014, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 6 2014, 05:51 PM)
it hasn't expire, its about to expire...and its placing a lot of pressure on me, about what to do next?

some entry levels also r hard...well depends, my cousin sister is very smart, so she could graduate level jobs but my cousin brother there, he is a bit of a lazy guy, he is engineering graduate but he is not able to EVEN find entry level job in Australia....

so he decided to become a barista.

i know pipu with 5-10 years experience, migrate to Aust, struggling to find job for 6 months.
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your cousin is lucky, i would say

many smart people have to leave. but if you have PR, you have a good chance of finding work. smart doesn't matter if you don't have PR... you might need to be a genius or just be really lucky (unless it is Engineering which seems to not have run out of jobs yet)
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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Mar 6 2014, 06:49 PM)
empire bro...how is the prospect for Geoscience ( Geology & geophysics) in Australia?
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How many years of experience and Australian experience do you have?
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Mar 6 2014, 07:02 PM)
your cousin is lucky, i would say

many smart people have to leave. but if you have PR, you have a good chance of finding work. smart doesn't matter if you don't have PR... you might need to be a genius or just be really lucky (unless it is Engineering which seems to not have run out of jobs yet)
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smart in study doesn't mean smart in working too. also, smart people will always be choosy and look for top tier companies only and hence they can't get any job
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Mar 6 2014, 10:26 PM)
smart in study doesn't mean smart in working too. also, smart people will always be choosy and look for top tier companies only and hence they can't get any job
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partly true but believe me smart people realise there are only so many top tiers
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post Mar 10 2014, 05:36 PM

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Good Day guys,

can recommend me a health insurance which is 457 visa compliant ?

BUPA ? And is it tax deductible ?

Thanks in advance.

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QUOTE(underGr0und_8 @ Mar 10 2014, 05:36 PM)
Good Day guys,

can recommend me a health insurance which is 457 visa compliant ?

BUPA ? And is it tax deductible ?

Thanks in advance.
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Guess I can answer you that since I am in the same position as you.

Can consider Bupa, Medibank and even HBF. Go to their website and there is a part where you can tick 457 compliant.

Do also check with your company as they might have good deals with the private insurance company.
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post Mar 10 2014, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 06:52 PM)
err, if u have to spend $4k a month on rental in places like melb...48k a year...wouldn't that be low?

correct me if i am wrong, i've seen $1k a week rental for 2 room apartments in gumtree before.
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of course u will rent accordingly to what you earn... if u earn RM4k u wont go rent a mansion in damansara etc, i believe $1k a week rental must be for a really expensive suburb or seaside apt...

i think in a regular suburb 30-40 mins from CBD, u should expect to pay about $500-600 per week for a whole house with about 2-3 rooms... correct me if wrong... thats about aud$2k a month, $1k a month each if there are two working adults...

most of the times u will be sharing with flatmates anyway, a bit too excessive if you rent the whole house to yourself with 2 rooms (unless u got family etc)
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Mar 6 2014, 07:02 PM)
your cousin is lucky, i would say

many smart people have to leave. but if you have PR, you have a good chance of finding work. smart doesn't matter if you don't have PR... you might need to be a genius or just be really lucky (unless it is Engineering which seems to not have run out of jobs yet)
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not only smart and capable, u need to have a dash of luck too
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post Mar 10 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Yodatan @ Mar 10 2014, 08:41 PM)
not only smart and capable, u need to have a dash of luck too
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if you have no visa then no question you need a lot of luck

seriously i feel like there are only so many companies, I can't send 1000 applications out like in the US
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 6 2014, 05:24 PM)
i am not sure whether want to go or not..i kena scolded by my family for allowing my PR to expire.

But since u tell me, if my pr expire i will never get a chance again...how ah?

i thinking of asking for extension but i dun hv good excuse

also i not willing to leave msia, leave my speciality of accounting work to go to aust for entry level job. so far my frens who migrated there didn't exactly get any worthwhile jobs. Total mismatch, like engineer work as coffee barista and accountant work as librarian.

my father had a near death experience last year, i managed to save his life at 11th hour when i brought him to hospital to take emergency surgery. So its matters like this that cause me to wonder what if i am away, how to take care of my parents? i
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i think u should think carefully about your motivations to migrate to australia, why move to aus when u can carve out a good career back home in msia? esp since u want to be near your family, even more reason to stay - even if u want greater exposure, more money etc there is always the southern neighbour icon_idea.gif that way u will be close enough to come back anytime, maybe once every fortnight etc. less adapting to do, less downgrade of job position as well
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 11 2014, 03:08 PM)
now i feeling like my pay has been downgraded because i am from the older generation. The young gen Ys now can command 5k a month with just 2 years experience, in 5 years earn 8k. I am falling far from behind no thanks to me being loyal to my employer, stick to long term, every year increment like crap.

i am thinking of going to Oz, switch career. Dunno see what comes...

accountancy doesn't seem to pay well for me anymore...only for the younger gens.

sure thing there are lots of accountancy jobs here in msia...but retirement up to 60..(pathetic), low exchange, high cost and gen Ys earning more than me...i feeling like changing fields in a foreign land.
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You should try switch company in malaysia first since your employer appreciate those Gen-Y more than you. If other companies also treat you the same, then you conclude for yourself whether it is the employer's problem or your own problem.

If you are not competitive in malaysia, do you think you will be more competitive against those Gen-Y in australia ?
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 11 2014, 05:43 PM)
i dun think it has anything to do wif employer problem wif me...when i first join..my pay was the same with the older generations who born in 1960.

so it is the same thing happening to me.

HR usually try to skim ur pay one..when you change job, they don't allow more than 20% hike...

they pay the youngsters high while they try to keep the older staff pay from going up, i think this is how companies particularly china ma ones, control their cost.
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You must be from the 70s or 80s tongue.gif There are many big companies in malaysia which appreciate talents. Nowadays, loyalty doesn't pay. Are you afraid to switch job ? If you are afraid, where do you get the courage to migrate to another country thousands of km away and switch job there ? The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence ? If you purpose of migration is based on this, you better think twice


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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 12 2014, 05:07 PM)
only few companies in msia appreciate talents..the big ones. but for those co i join, increment every year only rm100 a month.

i wanted to migrate thinking that things would be much different:
1) build career (sick n tired of low pay in msia)
2) earn $$$
3) buy a nice home n start a family
4) escape from political rubbish in msia

but:
1) no career in Aust, they only offer entry level jobs...jobs for accountants only reserve for aussies, even so, not many available because Aussie industry is not big...anyway because of high cost..most finance jobs shipped to shared services n call centres ironically back to msia.
2) $$$ is really good...but some of my frens who migrated took up entry level jobs that earn $50k a year, hardly enough to survive in Aust
3) homes r getting more expensive in Aust..one can only hope for a two room studio
4) Aussies dun exactly like asians. back 8 years when i studied there...they were nice..there was a time an aussie would just come by you as u r waiting at a bus/tram stop, just to have a chat with u about the weather, politics n family. Now...only Aussie neo nazi kids want to have a chat with u, so they can mug u on the spot.
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Bro, you have my sincere well wishes. Choose the path which you think is best for you thumbup.gif
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post Mar 14 2014, 05:16 PM

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Has anyone completed the health examination recently ?
Going to do it next week at Singapore.

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