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post Feb 25 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(snoopdog17 @ Feb 25 2014, 07:52 AM)
Got an offer today for an intermediate auditor position. Firm is top 10 locally and stll growing. Is AUD56,000 per annum a good offer?
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not sure about others but i would say this pay is consider normal for people with 2 years or more exp


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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 25 2014, 02:32 PM)
Since you're in that sector it may be the way to go. I've got a lot of Singaporean buddies here, ex-WFT, Halli, Schlum and Exxon working here at QGC and they always say that if you're into banking, go SG.

Whatever the case I suggest 485 visa. Use your 1.5 years to find someone that will sponsor you.....or knock up a local....I mean I've had friends do it and they're pretty happy biggrin.gif

56000 AUD per annum is lower than average graduate salary man....
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Banking opportunities are wider in SG, but you'll know in Australia the work life balance is far better

Of course I'm in no position to be choosy, I will take whatever comes

As for my sector, I might be wrong but I think even with citizenship it would've been hard to find graduate level work. I can't complain as I did not blow my parents' money - I'm on scholarship and have found easy ways to make extra income when I have the time.

So on an 18 month visa, the chances of finding a sponsor are slim because they can easily get a local (doesn't matter if I have grades and some experience, we're all entry level and this isn't investment banking), while graduate route is no longer applicable either. I could be very aggressive, start with the smallest company and try to make that work for me, albeit from a disadvantage (behind the new round of graduates).

Any idea how long it takes to be granted a 485 these days? I assume all the testing screening etc has to be 100% done before applying?

56k, many of us would kill for that, haha. I've seen some graduate energy/data jobs that are in the 80s range, not sure what kind of high they are riding (not banking or mining).
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Feb 25 2014, 04:56 PM)
Banking opportunities are wider in SG, but you'll know in Australia the work life balance is far better

Of course I'm in no position to be choosy, I will take whatever comes

As for my sector, I might be wrong but I think even with citizenship it would've been hard to find graduate level work. I can't complain as I did not blow my parents' money - I'm on scholarship and have found easy ways to make extra income when I have the time.

So on an 18 month visa, the chances of finding a sponsor are slim because they can easily get a local (doesn't matter if I have grades and some experience, we're all entry level and this isn't investment banking), while graduate route is no longer applicable either. I could be very aggressive, start with the smallest company and try to make that work for me, albeit from a disadvantage (behind the new round of graduates).

Any idea how long it takes to be granted a 485 these days? I assume all the testing screening etc has to be 100% done before applying?

56k, many of us would kill for that, haha. I've seen some graduate energy/data jobs that are in the 80s range, not sure what kind of high they are riding (not banking or mining).
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I started with a service firm and then moved up once I had experience. But of course resources is one of those industries that once you enter you never leave. If you can find a way in you're generally set for a long time.

Who knows, if you have the body for it, I'd try for Floorhand position on a drill rig. 80k fresh, 2 weeks on 1 week off. No skills required and they will nearly always sponsor your visa if they like you. I was trained as an Electrical eng, but these days I find myself looking at wellheads, sucker rods, hydraulic lines, compressed gas and diesel engines more than anything.

If you really want to stay in Aus, my advice is to be flexible with what you do. Try other sectors, think outside the box and use your 18 months on your 485 well. I'm sure you're intelligent enough to figure the ins and outs of the job market.

The 485 usually takes about 6 months to issue, in that time you have full working rights on your bridging visa (my advice is to just lie and say you have a PR lol)

I started at 80k with a small company. Sometimes, the secret is to looking where others will not look, doing things others won't do (selain tahan diding lerrr...) and being flexible when you are faced with challenges.


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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 25 2014, 05:24 PM)
I started with a service firm and then moved up once I had experience. But of course resources is one of those industries that once you enter you never leave. If you can find a way in you're generally set for a long time.

Who knows, if you have the body for it, I'd try for Floorhand position on a drill rig. 80k fresh, 2 weeks on 1 week off. No skills required and they will nearly always sponsor your visa if they like you. I was trained as an Electrical eng, but these days I find myself looking at wellheads, sucker rods, hydraulic lines, compressed gas and diesel engines more than anything.

If you really want to stay in Aus, my advice is to be flexible with what you do. Try other sectors, think outside the box and use your 18 months on your 485 well. I'm sure you're intelligent enough to figure the ins and outs of the job market.

The 485 usually takes about 6 months to issue, in that time you have full working rights on your bridging visa (my advice is to just lie and say you have a PR lol)

I started at 80k with a small company. Sometimes, the secret is to looking where others will not look, doing things others won't do (selain tahan diding lerrr...) and being flexible when you are faced with challenges.
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Oh I see, I thought resources was more cyclical.

I think lying is not going to work really well in my favour - as for work, maybe I could stay on, use that "24 months" and try to convince employers I'll eventually get permanent working rights. In terms of formal programs most 90 or 99% are closed if you haven't got PR.

It will be hard to justify trying to find work for the sake of staying, as tempting as that might be just to avoid having to go home right away. It would dredge away time that could be spent gaining experience, and then trying to return or not at all. Although entry level work is likely to be equally grueling anywhere, just with better hours in Aus.
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post Feb 25 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 25 2014, 02:32 PM)

56000 AUD per annum is lower than average graduate salary man....
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for intermediate auditor is a bit low but 56k aud doesnt sound too low for a grad man, probably average, most accounting grads avg taking about aud45k ?
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hi all, been reading some and i read that most mentioned that it's not easy to look for a job in australia now?
i'm from IT field, currently working in singapore, PR here. looking to survey if it's good to move to australia to work and live there. any advice?
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 21 2014, 07:40 PM)
I generally pay around 35 to 40 grand a year in income taxes.

But my main source of income is being a cheap bastid. My rent is 400 a month, makan is around 300, for 2 weeks a month I live on the company.

I guess one of the perks of being bujang.
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post Feb 28 2014, 10:49 PM

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Hi, anyone knows whats the salary for a reservoir engineer in australia..say with 3-5 years experience? Are there many jobs around?

Thanks
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QUOTE(narveenp @ Feb 28 2014, 10:49 PM)
Hi, anyone knows whats the salary for a reservoir engineer in australia..say with 3-5 years experience? Are there many jobs around?

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If you have the specific skills the companies are looking for, then yes there are many jobs around.

Based on my experience, it is around 100k for the base salary. But hey, don't take my words too seriously, it might be higher.
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 27 2014, 05:27 PM)
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QUOTE(narveenp @ Feb 28 2014, 10:49 PM)
Hi, anyone knows whats the salary for a reservoir engineer in australia..say with 3-5 years experience? Are there many jobs around?

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About 110k if you have around 5 years and know your specialized packages well (eg; If you want to work for Santos you'll have to have an idea of how to use Roxar RMS's workflow) and work exclusively in the office.

If you do office work and make regular field excursions, you usually get a top up bonus of 150 dollars a day so you pan out to around 120 to 125k.
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QUOTE(Soony @ Mar 1 2014, 09:36 AM)
If you have the specific skills the companies are looking for, then yes there are many jobs around.

Based on my experience, it is around 100k for the base salary. But hey, don't take my words too seriously, it might be higher.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 2 2014, 06:35 AM)

About 110k if you have around 5 years and know your specialized packages well (eg; If you want to work for Santos you'll have to have an idea of how to use Roxar RMS's workflow) and work exclusively in the office.

If you do office work and make regular field excursions, you usually get a top up bonus of 150 dollars a day so you pan out to around 120 to 125k.
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Thanks for the info guys, appreciate that. I would have thought that subsurface guys get more than other disciplines just like in other countries (eg. Malaysia). Maybe it's different in Aus as I know a couple of guys in the subsea field (office-based) who are getting way more than that with the same years of experience.

Cheers mate.

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post Mar 3 2014, 01:56 PM

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anyone knows how i can apply a job in Aussie?
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QUOTE(izwankhan @ Mar 3 2014, 01:56 PM)
anyone knows how i can apply a job in Aussie?
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Seek.com.au

But if you don't have a residency or work visa, it's gonna be hard.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 2 2014, 09:35 AM)
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About 110k if you have around 5 years and know your specialized packages well (eg; If you want to work for Santos you'll have to have an idea of how to use Roxar RMS's workflow) and work exclusively in the office.

If you do office work and make regular field excursions, you usually get a top up bonus of 150 dollars a day so you pan out to around 120 to 125k.
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brows.gif wats yr requirement? brows.gif
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 3 2014, 01:59 PM)
Seek.com.au

But if you don't have a residency or work visa, it's gonna be hard.
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Of course no residency.
Should I apply for work visa 1st or apply for a job 1st?
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QUOTE(izwankhan @ Mar 5 2014, 01:45 PM)
Of course no residency.
Should I apply for work visa 1st or apply for a job 1st?
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you can't get a work visa if there is no company willing to sponsor you. the sponsorship chance is very minimal unless you have the skill that they want
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Mar 4 2014, 09:30 PM)
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QUOTE(izwankhan @ Mar 5 2014, 01:45 PM)
Of course no residency.
Should I apply for work visa 1st or apply for a job 1st?
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You have 2 choices;

1) If your skills are in demand and if you're considered a special talent. You can start applying. Specialized jobs often cannot be filled by the local labour market but require experience, qualification and a strong skillset.

2) If your skills are so-so, you should apply for a visa first via SkillSelect and make the move here first.

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Studying in Australia is quite rough now. Even if your occupation is on the skilled list, you need work experience for your skills to qualify for the occupation. Otherwise it doesn't matter if you have enough points for migration. But how to convince someone to hire you on a temp visa even when you believe you might be able to migrate 1 or 2 years in the future...

The annual quotas, some <100, some a few 1000, are also restrictive.
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 07:01 PM)
is Aust employment getting from bad to worst?

hearing news of toyota closing plant - more car manufacturers will follow suit, will cause 50k loss of jobs.

then qantas also want to retrench 4k staff due to losses.

already ANZ bank retrench 2k workers some time back.

china growth is slowing down, coal prices fall, china's currency devalue 1.3%. Aust economy is very reliant on china growth..so would this affect the booming mining sector badly? Maybe its coming to an end.

I just don't understand, why is Aust bringing in so many migrants? I got friends with IT diploma, some don't even have degree - got bank job experience, even can get PR. Aust don't have a manufacturing base...their exchange rate so high, makes it impractical to have manufacturing plants in the country. therefore, where is the sector that needs to hire migrants the most? The mining sector? but i don't hear news of many of my PR friends ever taking mining jobs because they ldon't want to live in some god forsaken town in Western Aust.

everybody wants to live in the city. so am i right to say, only jobs that are available to migrants are those entry level jobs, Aussies don't want to take up? Just like here in malaysia, we locals don't want to work in the mamak as waiters, so the mamaks hire migrants from india.

so what is proping up the employment scene in Aust? the service sector can't be sustaining the employment?
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Not sure about your news but think of it this way. Australia brings in migrants and give them PR while they contribute to the economy by buying house, spending on meals, buying car and so on. This indirectly helps pump in more money to the country by giving them false hope.

The big players such as BHP and Rio Tinto are doing pretty well. The oil and gas is quite smooth sailing as well as I see that my company is hiring a lot of people but they are only interested in skilled workers in which the locals can't provide. Hence, the need of the 457 visa.

Read the news in the energy sector more frequent, a lot of big projects are ongoing. Gorgon by chevron should be about to finish already, Woodside venturing into Browse FLNG and not to say Shell's Prelude is going to be completed soon.
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Mar 5 2014, 07:01 PM)
I just don't understand, why is Aust bringing in so many migrants? I got friends with IT diploma, some don't even have degree - got bank job experience, even can get PR. Aust don't have a manufacturing base...their exchange rate so high, makes it impractical to have manufacturing plants in the country. therefore, where is the sector that needs to hire migrants the most? The mining sector? but i don't hear news of many of my PR friends ever taking mining jobs because they ldon't want to live in some god forsaken town in Western Aust.

everybody wants to live in the city. so am i right to say, only jobs that are available to migrants are those entry level jobs, Aussies don't want to take up? Just like here in malaysia, we locals don't want to work in the mamak as waiters, so the mamaks hire migrants from india.

so what is proping up the employment scene in Aust? the service sector can't be sustaining the employment?
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Not that many Australians are interested in Engineering, IT, Accounting, Maths, etc. Some news claimed that for every local Accounting grad there were 2.5 foreigners. They also make Maths, Physics, and Engineering cheaper to study than Business, Law etc. And they have a lot of ads to encourage people to take Engineering, none for Law, Languages, Arts, Music.

Not that there are that many spare jobs in Accounting and IT for foreigners. But many Australians prefer to study Arts and Law so maybe that's why a tiny number of spaces remain open. Especially if you are very experienced.

Australia really is a migrant-rich place. Their last PM was Welsh. High ranking senator was ex Malaysian. Many of their business academics are Chinese, Eastern European, Indian. Too bad now it's quite hard to migrate compared to just a few years ago.

QUOTE(Soony @ Mar 5 2014, 07:11 PM)
Not sure about your news but think of it this way. Australia brings in migrants and give them PR while they contribute to the economy by buying house, spending on meals, buying car and so on. This indirectly helps pump in more money to the country by giving them false hope.

The big players such as BHP and Rio Tinto are doing pretty well. The oil and gas is quite smooth sailing as well as I see that my company is hiring a lot of people but they are only interested in skilled workers in which the locals can't provide. Hence, the need of the 457 visa.

Read the news in the energy sector more frequent, a lot of big projects are ongoing. Gorgon by chevron should be about to finish already, Woodside venturing into Browse FLNG and not to say Shell's Prelude is going to be completed soon.
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True. If you are rich and have $5 m then you don't even need to speak English properly, or have any qualifications or even success in business. While if you are poor, you'll need to meet a lot of rules, to make sure you are at least a bit employable and needed.

Maybe should have studied Oil and Gas

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