which health examination?

what

diff people are everywhere

What's your problem with the generation Y? If they're young, talented and capable of doing things which you can't do, there must be a reason why they can get this pay. Dun think your company is buta-buta giving high pay to young guns.

Working in malaysia is working like a cow or donkey and pay peanuts. They expect you to work free. I got this ex-boss who keep on calling me during weekend and i never picked up. Even on overseas also keep on calling me. A$$hole.
I'll to answer your question:-
1) If you dun hv Oz experience, u still need to work from ground zero. Unless there's company who can see your experience is transferable. If not, expect for minimum wages and work 2 jobs.
2) you won't earn much money here. the more u earn, the more they tax. Let say u work 2 jobs, ur job profession paid 50k & part time job is 20k, u'll kena tax over the threshold. end up u'll miserable when major of ur 2nd job doesn't really earn much. Unless they pay cash
3) Yes, housing price is going up. even cheap lang suburb now cost almost 450k for median house. predict will go up average 6% this year
4) well, not really. Majority Ozzie thinking asian very hardworking and don't simply change job. low pay somemore. If u really step into their community, try to learn the locals here, they arent that hard to deal with. Some Ozzie is pro-nazi like. But if they really act that way, some other ozzie will screw their ass aswell.

well the tax threshold is 18k, if you mean the part time job brings you into another bracket where you pay tax on that income which exceeds the lower limit, then yes, at that point it might not be worth doing

but the system is the same as Malaysia... brackets... the more u earn, the higher the tax rate, but it is still tiered - only it is so much higher because of the welfare state, but after comparing standard of living, political and civil problems, working hours, overall savings.. that's what matters more than the tax rate

health examination which required by 457 application

Yeaps did mine in January. Its just a basic chest x ray examination.

You guys are lucky to get a 457!

Some people get exploited in Malaysia, very true. However there are plenty of high paying jobs out there. Go look at the salary bragging threads

For #2 it's tiered as already mentioned so you pay extra taxes only on the extra $20k not all of your $70k.

The question is how much extra does one have to make to maintain a similar living standard. If you make RM60k in Malaysia and then earn A$60k that's already a huge jump. If you make RM300k in Malaysia will you have to earn A$150k or even more to have similar standards?

This post has been edited by tishaban: Mar 19 2014, 10:51 AM

to make RM300k from RM60k is a huge jump but to make from $60k to $150k is not

you can live very comfortable with either RM300k in Malaysia or $150k in Australia.

just a manager/senior manager position in australia already can make $100k+ easily

That's not answering my question. My question is more towards cost of living ie. how much do I need to maintain the same level in Australia vs. Malaysia. Some of the calculators on the internet show that cost of living in Sydney/Melbourne/Perth is double that of in an expensive part of KL. I've been to Sydney, Melbourne, Perth but only as a tourist over several weeks and those places are expensive.

I don't make RM300k but if we truly need double the salary to maintain the same standards then it does look pretty daunting...

"If you make RM300k in Malaysia will you have to earn A$150k or even more to have similar standards?"

It's not a simple comparison because of different tax regimes (note the word regime, not rates).

But a simple answer to your question, RM300K is VERY MUCH above average, whereas AUD150K is not much above average.

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This post has been edited by howszat: Mar 19 2014, 10:56 PM

opps, so that was actually a question

well, we won't really know what will be your cost of living. eg. a standard house in inner suburb in Melbourne probably cost you $600-700k. so if you are earning $60k pa then it will be about $4k per month after tax. monthly payment for the house alone can cost you up to 2.5k. if you need a car like honda civic $22k and loan it for 5 years then monthly repayment should be about $400. you still have about $1k left which i think not gonna enough.

how about in KL with RM60k? 3br apartment in PJ could cost you RM600k-700k as well so monthly repayment is about RM2.5k. myvi cost you RM40k+ and loan it for 9 years also wil lbe about RM400. so you still have about RM1k+ left to use

high cost of living in australia? yes especially for tourist but it work out about the same if you are staying and earning there. just try not to convert the currency as it will double/triple the amount of MYR

It is hard to compare, the average quality of living and life style in both countries are different. To some people, hiring a stay in maid is essential, so if you put it in that perspective, there is no way the quality of life is better in Australia.

Say if you are starting from absolutely zero, then maybe, if you are single, probably AU$60k is comparable to RM60k per year.

And to be honest, to me, living in KL is a lot more expensive then living in Sydney. It will be too long to describe, but you'll notice it if you stay in both places long enough.

somehow i agree with this. one meal can easily cost me RM6 while i can get japanese fast food like Don Don or Hanaichi for $7

shopping is the worst in malaysia. one shirt can cost RM50 but i can get it for about $20.

Find that quite hard to believe as a student who lives in ACT after growing up in KL and has travelled to Melbourne and Sydney, and even Perth, Brisbane, and Gold Coast years ago.

Of course I don't live in Sydney so I might not have the full picture but feel free to elaborate.

When we talk about costs like these (and ignore FX rates) we also need to account for relative salary. It's much higher in Australia. In KL a grad might get 3,000 monthly if lucky (plenty of evidence on this forum that many get below that even in what's seen as high performing industries, and Jobstreet will confirm this), which translates to 36,000 pa. Let's ignore SOCSO, EPF, and taxes for now. A Sydney or Melbourne grad can easily get 60,000 pa, sometimes 80,000 pa. We're talking service industry and not working in mines or oil fields. You may want to account for maybe 25% taxes since the starting taxes for income above AUD 18k is around 17-20% if I remember correctly. Even then it's 45,000 to 60,000.

Now I can observe (anecdotal, not fact or statistics) there are plenty of things that cost the same nominal units of money in either country. A restaurant meal (MYR 30 or AUD 30). A suit jacket. A house or apartment unit (~500k).

Now the Australian salary starts at a much higher base. Assuming equal growth, equal performance, comparable economic conditions blah blah the Australian is gonna have a much higher pay in several years' time. Who is better off?

$7 sounds cheap for fast food. Is that location highly accessible, or is that price point common, or is the portion big enough, i.e. will many people be able to enjoy $7 meals too?

$20 for a proper shirt sounds like it's been discounted quite a bit and in KL you can also get 3-shirt or 2-shirt specials all year round for quite cheap, quality stuff. Where do you shop in Malaysia? We have some of the cheapest goods around the region and it attracts so many people from Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand.

Don Don and Hanaichi are located in CBD(in QV and behind Melbourne Central). THey have few branches too and a popular spot for lunch takeaway. Portion? Can't complain at all. Both are very filling and can last until dinner for me.

Clothes are cheap if I am earning there. Lets compare $30 vs RM60 for a same Zara shirt, I still can get $20 change from $50 instead in Malaysia. And of course people from Australia like to go Malaysia for shopping as this is because of the currency. $30=around RM90 and I still have spare after buying the RM60 Zara shirt. Another example is you can get Macbook easily with $4k per month compare to RM4k in Malaysia.
I also have mentioned many times, travelling using high currency is the best. I was splashing AUD everytime I go back to Malaysia for holiday

How do you find cloth in KL that is RM50 or less that is quality? Last time I went back, I only manage to find heavily discount cloths at that price, and the choice is only a handful. Most stuff are 100 or 150, and I do wonder how Malaysians can afford this when I won't want to spend that much.

But anyway, I never think one should decide to migrate here cause of money. Don't be expect to be be much better off or much worse off financially after you move here. There a lot of other factors that should matter more to you personally.

Yes you can. Sales are pretty regular too. These stores are similar to "outlet" type stores where they stock small brands but good quality. These clothes hold under time and wear, maybe better than big brands. And they don't cost much. But even then, in volume RM50 a piece is not cheap on Malaysian salary! It is only cheap in the sense that some alternatives cost more.

Yes, money is not everything. Australia is not a richer version of Malaysia. Even Singapore, which one can argue is already very close to Malaysia (languages, culture, food) is very different in terms of housing, government etc.

BUT the prospects for new graduates can be very dreadful in Malaysia by most metrics and that is why when we see foreigners getting PR in Australia it really raises feelings of jealousy and/or admiration.