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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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Nemesis1980
post Nov 11 2013, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(wayne.chin @ Nov 11 2013, 12:38 PM)
same as here... now i pay high tax for GST, high RPGT, no sugar subsidy, lower oil subsidy, less non-bumi uni quota, less chinese school, high electricity bill...
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they'll implement ICARE medical levy soon. wait and see
ur salary will be crunch by UMNO
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 10 2013, 10:35 PM)
Or you rather pay lower tax with lots of crime?
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As long as I get to keep a handgun on me that isn't an issue. laugh.gif
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post Nov 11 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 11 2013, 02:41 PM)
they'll implement ICARE medical levy soon. wait and see
ur salary will be crunch by UMNO
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they will think many ways to squeeze our money...
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post Nov 11 2013, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 10 2013, 10:35 PM)
Or you rather pay lower tax with lots of crime?
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Don't know where you get the idea that crime in Australia is less than Malaysia
Stats here: http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/Malaysia/Crime

In summary Burglaries are 14x more than Malaysia and car thefts are 149% more than Malaysia

I'm not saying Malaysia is safe but neither is Australia considering the amount of taxes you pay.

Just becuase you spent lesser amount of time in Australia and don't have many friends who reported these things does not mean Australia is safe
Its a law of probability.
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post Nov 11 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 11 2013, 09:48 PM)
Don't know where you get the idea that crime in Australia is less than Malaysia
Stats here: http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/Malaysia/Crime

In summary Burglaries are 14x more than Malaysia and car thefts are 149% more than Malaysia

I'm not saying Malaysia is safe but neither is Australia considering the amount of taxes you pay.

Just becuase you spent lesser amount of time in Australia and don't have many friends who reported these things does not mean Australia is safe
Its a law of probability.
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do you sure the malaysian statistic is accurate enuf to do comparison???

y no statistic on snaatch thieves???

and how bout smash n grab cases???

This post has been edited by wayne.chin: Nov 11 2013, 10:12 PM
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post Nov 11 2013, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(wayne.chin @ Nov 11 2013, 10:10 PM)
do you sure the malaysian statistic is accurate enuf to do comparison???

y no statistic on snaatch thieves???

and how bout smash n grab cases???
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Don't know but i doubt nationmaster is a malaysian company hence i do not think there is biasness. (they do it for a multitude of countries as well)

As far as data integrity is concern, maybe you want to drop them an e-mail instead. I'm sure they have a controls in place (but to expect 100% accuracy is not feasible). In summary it is a good guide is all i'm saying.

Anyhow you choose to look at it, stats are stats. Numbers don't lie. People do.
Once again I stress that I'm not saying Malaysia is safe. But neither does it suggest that Australia is, too

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post Nov 11 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 11 2013, 10:19 PM)
Don't know but i doubt nationmaster is a malaysian company hence i do not think there is biasness. (they do it for a multitude of countries as well)

As far as data integrity is concern, maybe you want to drop them an e-mail instead. I'm sure they have a controls in place (but to expect 100% accuracy is not feasible). In summary it is a good guide is all i'm saying.

Anyhow you choose to look at it, stats are stats. Numbers don't lie. People do.
Once again I stress that I'm not saying Malaysia is safe. But neither does it suggest that Australia is, too
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ya i dont believe they are bias... juz maybe data isnt enuf for the to have a good guidance...

no place is safe in this world...
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post Nov 11 2013, 11:52 PM

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I wouldn't say the data is the most accurate tool to measure the safeness of a country.. For example I did the comparison between uk and Malaysia, the crimes in uk is 38times more than Malaysia but I've never felt unsafe or scared walking home alone at midnight when I lived there, nothing bad has ever happened to me, where as in Malaysia I am paranoid every time I drive alone even during day time. In Malaysia. everyone knows someone who's been a victim of a crime here.
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 11 2013, 09:48 PM)
Don't know where you get the idea that crime in Australia is less than Malaysia
Stats here: http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/Malaysia/Crime

In summary Burglaries are 14x more than Malaysia and car thefts are 149% more than Malaysia

I'm not saying Malaysia is safe but neither is Australia considering the amount of taxes you pay.

Just becuase you spent lesser amount of time in Australia and don't have many friends who reported these things does not mean Australia is safe
Its a law of probability.
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your link is referring to outdated info ie 2006. Pls find a more reliable and relevant source
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post Nov 12 2013, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 11 2013, 11:48 PM)
Don't know where you get the idea that crime in Australia is less than Malaysia
Stats here: http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/Malaysia/Crime

In summary Burglaries are 14x more than Malaysia and car thefts are 149% more than Malaysia

I'm not saying Malaysia is safe but neither is Australia considering the amount of taxes you pay.

Just becuase you spent lesser amount of time in Australia and don't have many friends who reported these things does not mean Australia is safe
Its a law of probability.
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I get the idea from my own eyes. And I believe your source is outdated

I also don't think with my 5 years of living in Australia, 1 group of Malaysia friends and many close ex-colleagues are less though. Who are you to judge me anyway?

I can simply provide more source but I only give you this one which is at the first page in Google. Go figure
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/gmaps_rankings_country.jsp

Urban area may have lots of crime rate but do you really want to stay there for long just to experience the crime?

I know you are not stupid so stop getting the facts wrong
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post Nov 12 2013, 07:56 AM

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What is wrong with higher tax bracket? It just means you are getting more income, and I'll always welcome more income and pay more tax any day. Furthermore, there are so many ways to legally reduce tax and it is not uncommon to reduce it by 60%-70%.
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post Nov 12 2013, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 11 2013, 09:48 PM)
Don't know where you get the idea that crime in Australia is less than Malaysia
Stats here: http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/Malaysia/Crime

In summary Burglaries are 14x more than Malaysia and car thefts are 149% more than Malaysia

I'm not saying Malaysia is safe but neither is Australia considering the amount of taxes you pay.

Just becuase you spent lesser amount of time in Australia and don't have many friends who reported these things does not mean Australia is safe
Its a law of probability.
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Robert, have you being snatch lately? How many times your house being broke into?
How many people being kidnapped?

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post Nov 12 2013, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Nov 12 2013, 07:56 AM)
What is wrong with higher tax bracket? It just means you are getting more income, and I'll always welcome more income and pay more tax any day. Furthermore, there are so many ways to legally reduce tax and it is not uncommon to reduce it by 60%-70%.
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I always welcome this as well. People get higher income get more tax and still have tax return anyway.
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Nov 12 2013, 07:56 AM)
What is wrong with higher tax bracket? It just means you are getting more income, and I'll always welcome more income and pay more tax any day. Furthermore, there are so many ways to legally reduce tax and it is not uncommon to reduce it by 60%-70%.
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BS. Income has nothing to do with taxes. Its purely a function of supply and demand unless yr on min wage. Im surprised someone like u fail to get something simple like that yet aspire/is working for ib. To put it simply to u so u can understand, an investment banker in SG will earn ALOT more than an ibanker in aus simply bcoz SG has a demand for these ppl as a financial hub.
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 12 2013, 12:02 AM)
I get the idea from my own eyes. And I believe your source is outdated

I also don't think with my 5 years of living in Australia, 1 group of Malaysia friends and many close ex-colleagues are less though. Who are you to judge me anyway?

I can simply provide more source but I only give you this one which is at the first page in Google. Go figure
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/gmaps_rankings_country.jsp

Urban area may have lots of crime rate but do you really want to stay there for long just to experience the crime?

I know you are not stupid so stop getting the facts wrong
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Granted the data may be outdated. But facts are facts. Its as good a guide as any.
Whether a crime happens to you or not also depends on the law of probability. Because you spent a longer amount of time in malaysia, the probability of u being in the wrong place wrong time is higher. Also bcoz u know alot more ppl in malaysia as compared yo australia, incidences of friends encountering crime is also higher.

But that in no way indicates that australia is safe.
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 12 2013, 09:26 AM)
BS. Income has nothing to do with taxes. Its purely a function of supply and demand unless yr on min wage. Im surprised someone like u fail to get something simple like that yet aspire/is working for ib. To put it simply to u so u can understand, an investment banker in SG will earn ALOT more than an ibanker in aus simply bcoz SG has a demand for these ppl as a financial hub.
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ib = investment banker? Me? When did I mention I am/was/will be one? What does demand for a specific job have to do with personal income taxes anyway.


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QUOTE(divine061 @ Nov 12 2013, 09:44 AM)
ib = investment banker? Me? When did I mention I am/was/will be one? What does demand for a specific job have to do with personal income taxes anyway.
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The more the demand the less the supply = the more the pay. The inverse holds true too. Its simple basic economics!
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post Nov 12 2013, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 12 2013, 09:52 AM)
The more the demand the less the supply = the more the pay. The inverse holds true too. Its simple basic economics!
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That is a different topic. Complaints about high taxes and complaints about pay scale in different country, and you can continue arguing about cost of living here as well...

What I was referring to was just working in Australia. If you decide to work here, why complain about paying more taxes, the more tax you pay, it just means the higher income group you are in. Tax is already part of the package of working here, so view it as a whole and make your choice whether you want to work here based on the whole package and stop complaining about it.

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 12 2013, 11:31 AM)
Granted the data may be outdated. But facts are facts. Its as good a guide as any.
Whether a crime happens to you or not also depends on the law of probability. Because you spent a longer amount of time in malaysia, the probability of u being in the wrong place wrong time is higher. Also bcoz u know alot more ppl in malaysia as compared yo australia, incidences of friends encountering crime is also higher.

But that in no way indicates that australia is safe.
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Again, get your facts right first. Stop twisting around. It makes you look like a fool.

10years ago(your source most likely ten years ago) in Malaysia is a lot different compare to now. I can ride bicycle in the midnight alone to back home without worries but not now any more.

And sorry, I get the crime rate from news rather than my friend so stop giving out your random assumption again
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 12 2013, 11:23 AM)
Again, get your facts right first. Stop twisting around. It makes you look like a fool.

10years ago(your source most likely ten years ago)  in Malaysia is a lot different compare to now. I can ride bicycle in the midnight alone to back home without worries but not now any more.

And sorry, I get the crime rate from news rather than my friend so stop giving out your random assumption again
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I do not own nor am i related or hold any interest in nationmaster.com.
so why do you say i am twisting facts?
Is it because of your utter refusal to accept facts presented in front of you.
if you deny it fine. Show me proof.
if you have nothing to back up your conclusions better shut up otherwise it'll just show what a fool you are.

And i've said its a guide. For people with understanding difficulties like you better stay in msia. Aus and SG are not suitable for u

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