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post Nov 12 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 12 2013, 01:57 PM)
I do not own nor am i related or hold any interest in nationmaster.com.
so why do you say i am twisting facts?
Is it because of your refusal to accept facts presented in front of you.
if you deny it fine. Show me proof.
if you have nothing to back up your conclusions better shut up otherwise it'll just show what a fool you are.

And i've said its a guide. For people with understanding difficulties like you better stay in msia. Aus and SG are not suitable for u
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So you provided the source but then you are not iinterested? So you just copy the link without really read it?

I remember you said Australia is very bad in every way compare to Malaysia, bla bla bla, but nowyou asked me tto stay in Malaysia because of lack of understanding? Does that mean Australian have better understanding than Malaysia? Are you trying to twist your words again?

I think Ishould ignore you once again. No point to see you keep twisting yyour own words
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post Nov 12 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 12 2013, 12:39 PM)
So you provided the source but then you are not iinterested? So you just copy the link without really read it?

I remember you said Australia is very bad in every way compare to Malaysia, bla bla bla, but nowyou asked me tto stay in Malaysia because of lack of understanding? Does that mean Australian have better understanding than Malaysia? Are you trying to twist your words again?

I think Ishould ignore you once again. No point to see you keep twisting yyour own words
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Quote when did I say Australia is bad in every way compared to Malaysia?
I provided the source becuase I think it is necessary to dispel the rumours that Australia is safe as many claimed.
And I've also explicitly said that I did not think Malaysia is safe.

I asked you to stay in Malaysia becuase if you cannot carry an argument with facts to at least back your conclusion, you are better off in malaysia becuase you are going to fail in Aus and SG with that mentality.

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 12 2013, 03:23 PM)
Quote when did I say Australia is bad in every way compared to Malaysia?
I provided the source becuase I think it is necessary to dispel the rumours that Australia is safe as many claimed.
And I've also explicitly said that I did not think Malaysia is safe.

I asked you to stay in Malaysia becuase if you cannot carry an argument with facts to at least back your conclusion, you are better off in malaysia becuase you are going to fail in Aus and SG with that mentality.
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Quote? Find your own posts in this thread and RWI forum. You should know better than I am

Anyway, say whatever you want. Safe or not safe, is up to you.

I also quite impressed with your ability to determine others mentality. Well done mate
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post Nov 12 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 12 2013, 09:31 AM)
Granted the data may be outdated. But facts are facts. Its as good a guide as any.
Whether a crime happens to you or not also depends on the law of probability. Because you spent a longer amount of time in malaysia, the probability of u being in the wrong place wrong time is higher. Also bcoz u know alot more ppl in malaysia as compared yo australia, incidences of friends encountering crime is also higher.

But that in no way indicates that australia is safe.
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I think we never mentioned that Australia is 100% safe. Just the % of crime rate is lower.
Compare apple to apple. 10 years ago, i can go out midnite with friends in mamak stall until 4am. walking alone back home no issue.
Now, if u're asking me walking alone at nite, i wouldn't dare to go out unless i have guns in hand.

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post Nov 12 2013, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 12 2013, 01:48 PM)
Quote? Find your own posts in this thread and RWI forum. You should know better than I am

Anyway, say whatever you want. Safe or not safe, is up to you.

I also quite impressed with your ability to determine others mentality. Well done mate
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I doubt robert comment. seems he don't really understand what he's talking about. Different channel i guess
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post Nov 12 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 12 2013, 02:11 PM)
I doubt robert comment. seems he don't really understand what he's talking about. Different channel i guess
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Don't doubt me.
Like i say i don't own the website.
I'm just a messanger. You don't kill the messanger.
It serves no purpose.
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post Nov 12 2013, 10:27 PM

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Guys, this is a forum to share our experiences in Australia to those who wishes to migrate here but not for us to bash people around. Just chill and tolerate each other.

Remember whatever is said here are just people's point of view. It's totally up to you on whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
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post Nov 12 2013, 11:05 PM

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From my observation & awareness (can be bias)...

Rape, robbery, burglary
Malaysia > Australia

Large scale of anti-social behaviour, assaults, racist remarks, gang fights, hoons and/or drunk people crash their cars into your living room/bedroom, gun shots within the neighbourhood.
Aus> Malaysia

Higher likelihood to be safe when walking alone during night time
Aus> Malaysia

Likelihood a 'missing' person to be found
Aus> Malaysia

Most murders committed by serial killers
Aus> Malaysia

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post Nov 13 2013, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 12 2013, 10:10 PM)
Don't doubt me.
Like i say i don't own the website.
I'm just a messanger. You don't kill the messanger.
It serves no purpose.
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Now u get some info from somewhere which u dun really look at it. Throwing some outdated shit & bullshitting everywhere.
For me its a irresponsible act.

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QUOTE(Soony @ Nov 12 2013, 10:27 PM)
Guys, this is a forum to share our experiences in Australia to those who wishes to migrate here but not for us to bash people around. Just chill and tolerate each other.

Remember whatever is said here are just people's point of view. It's totally up to you on whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
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This forum must based on actual and fact. If anyone shooting th blank bullet giving outdated or false bullshit info, it beats the purpose of having the discussion.
We're not here to bash people. Just some weirdo dunno

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post Nov 13 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 13 2013, 11:48 AM)
This forum must based on actual and fact. If anyone shooting th blank bullet giving outdated or false bullshit info, it beats the purpose of having the discussion.
We're not here to bash people. Just some weirdo dunno
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To be honest I don't see anything as bullshit. Like what the professors always say, no ideas or questions are dumb or ridiculous. I'm pretty sure those who plans to migrate would have a certain level of intellectual to differentiate what is useful and not useful for them. There's no need to call people names and I have to stress that it is very unethical. =) All the best in the future discussion, I'm in no position to talk about the safety issues in both Australia and Malaysia.


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post Nov 13 2013, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 13 2013, 11:39 AM)
Now u get some info from somewhere which u dun really look at it. Throwing some outdated shit & bullshitting everywhere.
For me its a irresponsible act.
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Outdated maybe but how do you conclude its bullshit?
You got up to date stats to rebuff the stats shown? If yes, i want to see it too

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QUOTE(Soony @ Nov 13 2013, 11:54 AM)
To be honest I don't see anything as bullshit. Like what the professors always say, no ideas or questions are dumb or ridiculous. I'm pretty sure those who plans to migrate would have a certain level of intellectual to differentiate what is useful and not useful for them. There's no need to call people names and I have to stress that it is very unethical. =) All the best in the future discussion, I'm in no position to talk about the safety issues in both Australia and Malaysia.
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Precisely.
If Nemesis thinks its bullshit, fine. Show me up todate stats that suggest otherwise.
Instead he has chosen the typical Malaysian politician way to rebuff people by calling them names, character assasination, etc instead of providing concrete evidence to back his cconclusions, which was precisely one of the reasons why he chose to get out of m'sia in the first place. Bravo!

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post Nov 13 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 13 2013, 11:39 AM)
Now u get some info from somewhere which u dun really look at it. Throwing some outdated shit & bullshitting everywhere.
For me its a irresponsible act.
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Just to add on to that, the report below suggest that Australia has the highest police recorded rape case compared to a list of countries.
Once again attacking me is pointless as these reports are available internationally.
http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf
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post Nov 13 2013, 12:22 PM

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no point bash out each others here... all stats is for guidance...

http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities...ur&city2=Sydney

above shows the crime index between KL & Sydney...

every country has its own problems...

if someone choose to migrate must have consider all aspects and think wat is good for them...

but we cannot deny that Malaysia Gov has burden the Rakyat all this while...

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QUOTE(wayne.chin @ Nov 13 2013, 12:22 PM)
no point bash out each others here... all stats is for guidance...

http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities...ur&city2=Sydney

above shows the crime index between KL & Sydney...

every country has its own problems...

if someone choose to migrate must have consider all aspects and think wat is good for them...

but we cannot deny that Malaysia Gov has burden the Rakyat all this while...
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Using the same source, suprisingly Perth, Melbourne and Cairns in Australia have higher crime index than Jakarta, Indonesia!
Holy cow! Taking about being worse than Jakarta!
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp

The cities KL and JB was expected. Nobody says Msia was safe. Kuching's high ratings was a surprise though.
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post Nov 13 2013, 12:36 PM

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hell loads of crime in Perth, it all depend on area and suburbs.
I've seen people get stabbed and died in front of me in rockingham area
this is where all the drunks and 7 year old kids are running around at the middle of the night ( 3am )
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QUOTE(rickrick @ Nov 13 2013, 12:36 PM)
hell loads of crime in Perth, it all depend on area and suburbs.
I've seen people get stabbed and died in front of me in rockingham area
this is where all the drunks and 7 year old kids are running around at the middle of the night ( 3am )
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The mining boom has brought its fair share of issues to Perth by widening the gap between rich and poor.

Cost of living there is insane at best. Worst of all as with all booms, it will go down and in that case, crime will skyrocket.
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post Nov 13 2013, 03:20 PM

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Wow so much discussion on safety. Thanks for all the stats, to me its good to note that Oz is not a peace heaven after all, but as a living m'sian for so many years, I've learned how to be alert and to protect myself, the whole package is still more attractive to leave this country if there is an option, this is still what I see, personal opinion.
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post Nov 13 2013, 03:31 PM

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Hi guys, I've got my visa and am making my first landing next year just for a short vacation in Sydney. After scrambling for visa, now its time to look fora job smile.gif

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