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Propernormal
post Sep 9 2013, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 9 2013, 12:51 PM)
Try to read this thread from page 1 and you'll understand that:
- No AU employer will bother looking thru your resume once your resume has a non-Australian home address and contact number
- employer sponsorship is hard and rare to come by esp with the 457 as they have recently tightened the rules for this (must advertise the job for 3months locally before they are allowed to hire non locals).
you will be lucky if you even get to work in your line of profession in AU. A word of advice for you: I may be wrong but I have a feeling that you are jumping on this migrate-to-Australia bandwagon because you are disgruntled with your current company/country, wants a better future for your kids etc but you really should do a bit more of background research especially if you have kids. Nemesis is one of the rare ones who are able to secure a job in under 3months of entering Australian soil in his original line of work too. There are more horror stories of people being relegated to menial work e.g. cashier, petrol kiosk attendant. Mind you, these are professionals e.g. lawyers, accountants. I believe Pete would be able to impart more horror stories here tongue.gif
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Mik,

I'm disgruntled about lot things and i worry at my old age one day, i will be alone living in this country. My siblings are living overseas and my only child i sent him away to study so that he will not miss out on good education. I have seen a big difference in my child now. Yeah....u are right , im trying to move where i will be closer to my loved ones and at the same time help my child to settle and grow in a better place eventually.



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post Sep 9 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Propernormal @ Sep 9 2013, 01:07 PM)
Thanks for the advice Annielee. I agree that the questions i ask sound a bit stupid. Sometimes i find that asking is better than being quiet and scared. Yes, you are right, to sound smart , one must do some own research first. I'm just seeking a fast answers because im currently studying for my final ACCA paper for my Dec exams.

So trying to kill 2 birds with a stone. Study my paper and free time come on this website and ask questions to just understand and clear some of my doubts before going onto the DIAC site after my exams.

Thanks for your advice. I appreciate it.
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Honestly, you are wasting your time and the info you gathered here might not relevant anymore unless you lodge your PR immediately. I noticed lots of people wanted to migrate, but due to their 'not sure' or 'later la' attitude, they are not eligible anymore to lodge an application.

If you are serious about migrating and not clear about the policies, seek out a migration agent - they often offer free advice based on your current situation, not to mention policies change from time to time and some without any notice. Email or phone them, they could determine your eligibility to lodge an application, area to improve or a path to focus on.

If you are determined enough to lodge by yourself, just do it. Time is tickling and God knows whether the new elected government would scrap the whole migration program. icon_question.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Propernormal @ Sep 9 2013, 01:13 PM)
Mik,

I'm disgruntled about lot things and i worry at my old age one day, i will be alone living in this country. My siblings are living overseas and my only child i sent him away to study so that he will not miss out on good education. I have seen a big difference in my child now. Yeah....u are right , im trying to move where i will be closer to my loved ones and at the same time help my child to settle and grow in a better place eventually.
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I think you did say somewhere that you are in your early 40s right? If your sibling is in Australia, you do get additional points for it too. Most of the questions that you have asked here are the very basic questions related to migrating to AU and surprisingly, the folks here have been answering you rather patiently tongue.gif

When I sat for my IELTS few months ago, I bumped into another woman who is in a similar predicament as you are (e.g. older age bracket, accountant). But at least she was working hard to meet the minimum points. It was her third attempt at IELTS as her previous ones were only Band 6 (or 7, can't recall now). Not meaning to pour cold water on you, but this isn't the place to do a Q&A because you are too busy with your studies.
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post Sep 9 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Propernormal @ Sep 9 2013, 12:11 PM)
Employer sponsor -  do u mean that i can try to apply for a job in Oz say from a recruitment website like www.Monster.au eventhough no PR and try my luck and see whether i get them to sponsor me?

recognized graduate visa (Only graduates of UM and UITM are recognized by the Australian government)  - so does this mean if i do Master study say in UM ( i think UITM only allows Bumiputera) , i can get a Graduate Visa from Oz?

How come only these 2 instituitions OZ recognised? I dont understand! So i get the message that if i do any australian uni master's or british uni master study from any of our local uni like Help/Segi/Kasturi ---- i wont get graduate visa from OZ govt!!! Gosh!! That's brutal!

Empire - really sorry man i bug u. I know end of the day PR is what i must aim for.

Thanks man.
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No employer will sponsor you given your current situation. I'm 99.9999 percent sure of that. Mind you there are a million and 1 Indian graduates already in Australia with PRs and working at 7-11. Why would they choose you?

Actually I recall that the recognized graduate visa only applies to Engineering students. I don't make the rules lol. If they recognize only those 2 unis, what to do? I think famous kuda in this forum Meruchan tried to apply for onshore PR, she was a graduate of QUT with a Masters of Accounting, but end up had to go back because no work and she didn't want to be a waiter for the rest of her life.

Kesian her. She seemed pretty well settled here.

My suggestion is that you aim for;
1) SkillSelect PR invitation
2) Be in the skilled workforce for 5 years for the extra 10 points.
3) Aim for an IELTS Score of 8

If you start now, you'll get your PR visa in about 6 years.

If you want the faster way well, you'll need about 60k AUD.
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post Sep 9 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Sep 9 2013, 01:25 PM)
God knows whether the new elected government would scrap the whole migration program. icon_question.gif
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I think they are not going to scrap the whole program. sweat.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 04:30 PM

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I've met up with 2 migration agents and I could apply PR under subclass 190 with state sponsored by Perth. Both agent told me that there's a 2 years bind in Perth but they said it's a moral bind. Which I'm not really sure about it. They said I could land at Perth and travel to Melbourne directly if I want to, without fulfilling the 2 years bind in Perth. They claimed that the federal is the one who approve/renew my PR, so they would not care whether you serve the 2 years bind or not.

I've friends over Melbourne that could provide me with accommodation so I could save up some money over there. Secondly, I need to enroll my son for primary school once touch down Aus and we plan to buy a house. it will be a hassle for us to stay in Perth for 2 years to fulfill the bond and move the whole family to Melbourne later on.

My question is, will Perth takes legal action on me if I did not fulfill the 2 years stay? Is it possible for me to renew my PR for the following 5 years without fulfilling the bond?
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post Sep 9 2013, 04:34 PM

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you better do you own research, as if you dont fulfill your 2 years residency in the sponsored state, you visa might not be renew..
thats what i read recently in a forum..

yes, you can move to other state, but you must have proof that you cant find a job in your sponsored state and get the release from them as well..

dont just listen to agent, as they will paint a beautiful picture to get your money..

QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 9 2013, 04:30 PM)
I've met up with 2 migration agents and I could apply PR under subclass 190 with state sponsored by Perth. Both agent told me that there's a 2 years bind in Perth but they said it's a moral bind. Which I'm not really sure about it. They said I could land at Perth and travel to Melbourne directly if I want to, without fulfilling the 2 years bind in Perth. They claimed that the federal is the one who approve/renew my PR, so they would not care whether you serve the 2 years bind or not.

I've friends over Melbourne that could provide me with accommodation so I could save up some money over there. Secondly, I need to enroll my son for primary school once touch down Aus and we plan to buy a house. it will be a hassle for us to stay in Perth for 2 years to fulfill the bond and move the whole family to Melbourne later on.

My question is, will Perth takes legal action on me if I did not fulfill the 2 years stay? Is it possible for me to renew my PR for the following 5 years without fulfilling the bond?
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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 9 2013, 12:42 PM)
I think it's best that you refer to their website on how the point system works. You can do a rough calculation on whether you qualify for a/any visa.

on a side note, can anyone explain the difference between the SOL & CSOL? My understanding is that the CSOL is for state sponsored visa (489) and will boost you up by 5points while SOL is for 189. Apart from having to stay & work in the specific state, is there any other drawback for the 489? I find that the 489 would be easier to get compared to 189 if you can accept staying in one particular state only and of course, provided that your job is in the CSOL.
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489 visa is only for people who willing to work in regional area. i don't think i can live in regional area

QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 9 2013, 06:30 PM)
I've met up with 2 migration agents and I could apply PR under subclass 190 with state sponsored by Perth. Both agent told me that there's a 2 years bind in Perth but they said it's a moral bind. Which I'm not really sure about it. They said I could land at Perth and travel to Melbourne directly if I want to, without fulfilling the 2 years bind in Perth. They claimed that the federal is the one who approve/renew my PR, so they would not care whether you serve the 2 years bind or not.

I've friends over Melbourne that could provide me with accommodation so I could save up some money over there. Secondly, I need to enroll my son for primary school once touch down Aus and we plan to buy a house. it will be a hassle for us to stay in Perth for 2 years to fulfill the bond and move the whole family to Melbourne later on.

My question is, will Perth takes legal action on me if I did not fulfill the 2 years stay? Is it possible for me to renew my PR for the following 5 years without fulfilling the bond?
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Yes, it is kinda moral obligation but it could prevent you to renew visa or apply for citizenship

You can however asked to be released from the state by giving a valid reason(liek can't find job in 6 months,etc)
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post Sep 9 2013, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 9 2013, 04:30 PM)
I've met up with 2 migration agents and I could apply PR under subclass 190 with state sponsored by Perth. Both agent told me that there's a 2 years bind in Perth but they said it's a moral bind. Which I'm not really sure about it. They said I could land at Perth and travel to Melbourne directly if I want to, without fulfilling the 2 years bind in Perth. They claimed that the federal is the one who approve/renew my PR, so they would not care whether you serve the 2 years bind or not.

I've friends over Melbourne that could provide me with accommodation so I could save up some money over there. Secondly, I need to enroll my son for primary school once touch down Aus and we plan to buy a house. it will be a hassle for us to stay in Perth for 2 years to fulfill the bond and move the whole family to Melbourne later on.

My question is, will Perth takes legal action on me if I did not fulfill the 2 years stay? Is it possible for me to renew my PR for the following 5 years without fulfilling the bond?
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Why must melbourne? Why u need to take these risk? Melbourne housing price ain't cheap. Everyone is going there without knowing high competitiveness there.
If u wanna risk ur visa, u might not get renewed. Please bear in mind 2 years is pretty short. By the time u fulfill, moving there anytime.

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post Sep 9 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 9 2013, 02:26 PM)
No employer will sponsor you given your current situation. I'm 99.9999 percent sure of that. Mind you there are a million and 1 Indian graduates already in Australia with PRs and working at 7-11. Why would they choose you?

Actually I recall that the recognized graduate visa only applies to Engineering students. I don't make the rules lol. If they recognize only those 2 unis, what to do? I think famous kuda in this forum Meruchan tried to apply for onshore PR, she was a graduate of QUT with a Masters of Accounting, but end up had to go back because no work and she didn't want to be a waiter for the rest of her life.

Kesian her. She seemed pretty well settled here.

My suggestion is that you aim for;
1) SkillSelect PR invitation
2) Be in the skilled workforce for 5 years for the extra 10 points.
3) Aim for an IELTS Score of 8

If you start now, you'll get your PR visa in about 6 years.

If you want the faster way well, you'll need about 60k AUD.
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Hi bro, is it still a recession for the mining industry in AUS atm?
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post Sep 9 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 9 2013, 02:26 PM)
No employer will sponsor you given your current situation. I'm 99.9999 percent sure of that. Mind you there are a million and 1 Indian graduates already in Australia with PRs and working at 7-11. Why would they choose you?

Actually I recall that the recognized graduate visa only applies to Engineering students. I don't make the rules lol. If they recognize only those 2 unis, what to do? I think famous kuda in this forum Meruchan tried to apply for onshore PR, she was a graduate of QUT with a Masters of Accounting, but end up had to go back because no work and she didn't want to be a waiter for the rest of her life.

Kesian her. She seemed pretty well settled here.

My suggestion is that you aim for;
1) SkillSelect PR invitation
2) Be in the skilled workforce for 5 years for the extra 10 points.
3) Aim for an IELTS Score of 8

If you start now, you'll get your PR visa in about 6 years.

If you want the faster way well, you'll need about 60k AUD.
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Referring to the bold part, does it have to be of the same profession? I've recently changed role for a little over a year now. My current and previous jobs are on the SOL/CSOL (can't recall now).

Btw, is it true about meruchan? I thought she just wanted to come back to MY after finishing her studies.

QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 9 2013, 04:50 PM)
489 visa is only for people who willing to work in regional area. i don't think i can live in regional area

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so 489 is only valid for 2years and work in regional areas. What's the definition of regional area? hmm.gif
Btw, how did your IELTS go?
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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Sep 9 2013, 08:53 PM)
Hi bro, is it still a recession for the mining industry in AUS atm?
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Dunno yet, Liberal party said will abolish carbon tax. i think they wanna restart the mining boom again but not as crazy as last time
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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 9 2013, 09:20 PM)
Referring to the bold part, does it have to be of the same profession? I've recently changed role for a little over a year now. My current and previous jobs are on the SOL/CSOL (can't recall now).

Btw, is it true about meruchan? I thought she just wanted to come back to MY after finishing her studies.
so 489 is only valid for 2years and work in regional areas. What's the definition of regional area?  hmm.gif
Btw, how did your IELTS go?
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The 5 years experience is minimum to get 10 points. u must hv these experience in ur profession. if not, u hardly get the additional points.

regional areas are those kampung area which u're thrown for ur own survival.....haha, joking.
They just want to scatter u all to other regional area to avoid urbanisation coz everyone is coming to the city.
Places like syd, melb, perth, brisbane, wollongong are all consider cities. u may consider adelaide, darwin is regional city. but u'll need hard time to look for job there coz sangkala area hard to find job.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 9 2013, 09:36 PM)
The 5 years experience is minimum to get 10 points. u must hv these experience in ur profession. if not, u hardly get the additional points.

regional areas are those kampung area which u're thrown for ur own survival.....haha, joking.
They just want to scatter u all to other regional area to avoid urbanisation coz everyone is coming to the city.
Places like syd, melb, perth, brisbane, wollongong are all consider cities. u may consider adelaide, darwin is regional city. but u'll need hard time to look for job there coz sangkala area hard to find job.
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sweat.gif Thanks. That is so not worth the additional 5points then.
Is there a restriction or list of universities for degree? A friend mentioned that he graduated from a UK uni under Lim Kok Wing twinning program and his degree wasn't recognized so he didn't get the points for education. I searched for the (possibly) elusive list on IMMI but can't seem to locate it. Is there such a thing?
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 9 2013, 09:36 PM)
The 5 years experience is minimum to get 10 points. u must hv these experience in ur profession. if not, u hardly get the additional points.

regional areas are those kampung area which u're thrown for ur own survival.....haha, joking.
They just want to scatter u all to other regional area to avoid urbanisation coz everyone is coming to the city.
Places like syd, melb, perth, brisbane, wollongong are all consider cities. u may consider adelaide, darwin is regional city. but u'll need hard time to look for job there coz sangkala area hard to find job.
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2 years back I remember seeing a newspaper article saying they were planning to change the status of Perth from city to regional area to encourage people to stay there. Not sure if that's the case.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 9 2013, 02:26 PM)
No employer will sponsor you given your current situation. I'm 99.9999 percent sure of that. Mind you there are a million and 1 Indian graduates already in Australia with PRs and working at 7-11. Why would they choose you?

Actually I recall that the recognized graduate visa only applies to Engineering students. I don't make the rules lol. If they recognize only those 2 unis, what to do? I think famous kuda in this forum Meruchan tried to apply for onshore PR, she was a graduate of QUT with a Masters of Accounting, but end up had to go back because no work and she didn't want to be a waiter for the rest of her life.

Kesian her. She seemed pretty well settled here.

My suggestion is that you aim for;
1) SkillSelect PR invitation
2) Be in the skilled workforce for 5 years for the extra 10 points.
3) Aim for an IELTS Score of 8

If you start now, you'll get your PR visa in about 6 years.

If you want the faster way well, you'll need about 60k AUD.
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It is not just 2 universities that are recognised!! rclxub.gif

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...nstitutions.htm

Only applicable for engineers. For those interested, do check the link.
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 9 2013, 08:37 PM)
Why must melbourne? Why u need to take these risk? Melbourne housing price ain't cheap. Everyone is going there without knowing high competitiveness there.
If u wanna risk ur visa, u might not get renewed. Please bear in mind 2 years is pretty short. By the time u fulfill, moving there anytime.
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Actually I've relatives over in Melbourne who could provide me with accommodation upon starting up. By going to Melbourne, I could save on accommodation. That's the reason why...

Anyway, thanks to you, annielee and hihihehe. Appreciate your help over here.
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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Sep 9 2013, 08:53 PM)
Hi bro, is it still a recession for the mining industry in AUS atm?
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We'll see after the taxes have been repealed. But the reality is that our industry depends greatly upon commodity prices.

Hiring has stopped and now most are only taking in experienced people.


QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 9 2013, 09:20 PM)
Referring to the bold part, does it have to be of the same profession? I've recently changed role for a little over a year now. My current and previous jobs are on the SOL/CSOL (can't recall now).

Btw, is it true about meruchan? I thought she just wanted to come back to MY after finishing her studies.
so 489 is only valid for 2years and work in regional areas. What's the definition of regional area?  hmm.gif
Btw, how did your IELTS go?
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Yes. It has to be of the nominated profession. Eg; Your nominated profession is accountant, only your years working as an accountant are counted.

The definition of regional area is set by each of the states in their State Migration Plans. But going regional isn't too bad. As it nearly all my work is regional based. Plus lower cost of living helps a lot.
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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 9 2013, 09:48 PM)
sweat.gif Thanks. That is so not worth the additional 5points then.
Is there a restriction or list of universities for degree? A friend mentioned that he graduated from a UK uni under Lim Kok Wing twinning program and his degree wasn't recognized so he didn't get the points for education. I searched for the (possibly) elusive list on IMMI but can't seem to locate it. Is there such a thing?
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Yes, there's a list in DIAC website which u probably need to glance thru. I saw the list before just can't remember where. The list highlighting the uni they recognise and can consider
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QUOTE(zammy87 @ Sep 9 2013, 09:56 PM)
2 years back I remember seeing a newspaper article saying they were planning to change the status of Perth from city to regional area to encourage people to stay there. Not sure if that's the case.
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Yes, i heard that too. The reason is that they're pushing ppl away from the city to the suburb like ellenbrook, mindarie, baldivis, mandurah and watever outskirt suburb u can name it. The city turn like a ghost city somehow. Just travelled to the city last week during lunch hour. I think not even 1/3 of the city population of KL. The whole street seems empty. Now the WA gov wanted to make the city more happening...somewhere like syd and melb.

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