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post Sep 4 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 4 2013, 06:48 PM)
Bro, I'm filling up the vetassess and what is POINT TEST ADVICE? Do I need an Advisory Letter to support my claim for points in the GSM Points Test?
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Point test advice is you wish DIAC to consider your work experience and education qualification and get the points

You can find more info here http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus...test_advice.cfm and here http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus..._advice.cfm#Q2a
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post Sep 4 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 4 2013, 05:35 PM)
That's true. A sparky's Cert III ticket is a worth more than an MBA. If you got a Cert IV instro ticket + Sparky ticket, you can name your terms most of the time and take home 140k.

A degree isn't worth much, thus my want to finish my TAFE ASAP and putting it even above my masters Petroleum Eng .
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Hmm MBA only comes in when you have working experiences and moving your way up to the management level, but so far all the managers I've talked to have MBA and they say it's necessary but not important.

I guess someday your degree will be a worthwhile.
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QUOTE(Soony @ Sep 4 2013, 09:19 PM)
Hmm MBA only comes in when you have working experiences and moving your way up to the management level, but so far all the managers I've talked to have MBA and they say it's necessary but not important.

I guess someday your degree will be a worthwhile.
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+1 especially in large company

Most of my directors(some already 40+ years old) in my working place are doing MBA for the sake of the position level but being paid by company so nothing to lose here tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Sep 4 2013, 04:35 PM)
Yeah i know...my PR will expire in 2015. Sob Sob.

I am in big dilemna.

Right now, not hearing a lot of bright news about job search there.

I am dang old, mid 30s.
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Mid 30s is still OK to migrate and start over.
My visa expire in 2016, I am in mid 40's. I do not have any hope to look for job there.
May be only look for business opportunity.
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post Sep 4 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(BubuTheStar @ Sep 4 2013, 04:42 PM)
Hey there,

Been reading your post and I am in sort of a dilemma. I have a full PR that will expire next year in May 2014. I really am 50/50 on migrating back to australia. I left aust in 2008 due to financial difficulties and loss of job. Came back and have been working in sales and marketing positions for last 4 years. Now that it's close to expiry date am wondering whether or not to go back. Career wise i'm no CEO or Tony Fernandez...just earning slightly above average and in small company. My only worry is go back there have no job and no way at all to sustain myself.

Also there is the GF thing. She really wants to move there and pressuring me everyday to marry her and bring her there. Problem is we both aren't very stable together and marrying would be the last thing to do

Really in a massive dilemma now.. I know australia is good. But issit good enough to go there are slog without family...without a good job and having to work in cafe, construction, restaurant etc... i mean what's the point right if the whole point of migration is to be happier with better standard of living.

I'm not trying to knock down those who are working in these jobs... personally i feel for myself...kinda waste study so hard then go there n do all this. maybe it's my stupid pride.

But i like your posts and it would be great if you can share some of your thought processes when u decided to leave msia
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Well, my friend. i was once like u who actually taking pride of goin back malaysia. that was 10 years ago. I bringing my brain and degree back try to serve my country for good. A bunch of our malaysian, singaporean and hongkees... all applied for PR that time like 40 of them. few of us come back to serve for king and country. I did try to apply, gonna DIY and fill up the forms ready to submit but at the end i refuse to log in. Going back malaysia is a very wrong decision for me that time. Went back work in KL, start pay at RM1600/mth. Compare AUD3000/mth those days is peanuts. But i the price for pride is cut ur pay.
Work like hell, OT everyday, luckily OT each mth can get RM1k. If not, die faster.
2008, a friend of mine migrated. Ask me to join him and i assessed my qualification, still eligible. No IELTS required tat time. I still don't wanna go. Thinking malaysia still got hope, plenty of opportunities.
2011, following with political turmoil, fed up with political scandal and bullshit. Start sourcing my info and damn, need IELTS. All documents checked. Apply on MAy 2012. Approved JAn 2013. Enter July2013, start work mid August 2013

Summary, pride kills u. U've to pay for that. No one cares for ur personal matters. They only cares how much money u earn, how long u can OT and make sure u don't take leave. Letter appointment all unfair. No one would fight for u. When u're ill lying at home, they only care when can u start work. All bosses back home always say u must work 10hrs to learn things then only u can earn high salary. I worked 10 hrs each day for 10 years. Just try to put food on the table.
Even b4 i left KL, jobs always come to me. giving offers to jump ship. But i had it enough. I'm done!
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post Sep 4 2013, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Sep 4 2013, 05:17 PM)
I don't think it was because of that lah. He had nasty colleagues.

I also got one friend who migrated as  lawyer. He only lasted in the law firm for 8 months. He told me he had a dragod lady white boss..he scold him with racist overtones almost every day. Until he had to resign, can't take the pressure.
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Sometime harsh word have to use. F*** her. It's just a job. U can take this to fair work.
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post Sep 4 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 4 2013, 05:35 PM)
That's true. A sparky's Cert III ticket is a worth more than an MBA. If you got a Cert IV instro ticket + Sparky ticket, you can name your terms most of the time and take home 140k.

A degree isn't worth much, thus my want to finish my TAFE ASAP and putting it even above my masters Petroleum Eng .
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Haha, degree is meant for asian, that's wat Ozzie think. Asian are the cash cow. I heard uni fees now hit 22k/annum.
Ozzie don't really need degree holder, just take a course in TAFE. Hair dresser or watever bluecollar jobs will earn u 6 figures annually.

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post Sep 4 2013, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:53 PM)
Well, my friend. i was once like u who actually taking pride of goin back malaysia. that was 10 years ago. I bringing my brain and degree back try to serve my country for good. A bunch of our malaysian, singaporean and hongkees... all applied for PR that time like 40 of them. few of us come back to serve for king and country. I did try to apply, gonna DIY and fill up the forms ready to submit but at the end i refuse to log in. Going back malaysia is a very wrong decision for me that time. Went back work in KL, start pay at RM1600/mth. Compare AUD3000/mth those days is peanuts. But i the price for pride is cut ur pay.
Work like hell, OT everyday, luckily OT each mth can get RM1k. If not, die faster.
2008, a friend of mine migrated. Ask me to join him and i assessed my qualification, still eligible. No IELTS required tat time. I still don't wanna go. Thinking malaysia still got hope, plenty of opportunities.
2011, following with political turmoil, fed up with political scandal and bullshit. Start sourcing my info and damn, need IELTS. All documents checked. Apply on MAy 2012. Approved JAn 2013. Enter July2013, start work mid August 2013

Summary, pride kills u. U've to pay for that. No one cares for ur personal matters. They only cares how much money u earn, how long u can OT and make sure u don't take leave. Letter appointment all unfair. No one would fight for u. When u're ill lying at home, they only care when can u start work. All bosses back home always say u must work 10hrs to learn things then only u can earn high salary. I worked 10 hrs each day for 10 years. Just try to put food on the table.
Even b4 i left KL, jobs always come to me. giving offers to jump ship. But i had it enough. I'm done!
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very very true. good luck to those in the mid-30s. Always remember, belum cuba belum tahu smile.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Skywalker10 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:24 PM)
Mid 30s is still OK to migrate and start over.
My visa expire in 2016, I am in mid 40's. I do not have any hope to look for job there.
May be only look for business opportunity.
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You still in Malaysia?
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:55 PM)
Sometime harsh word have to use. F*** her. It's just a job. U can take this to fair work.
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Well its hard if that is your boss. For me, I only have the guts to say F her, when I resign.
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 4 2013, 02:51 PM)
As i suggest previously, 1 step at a time. Now Oz visa is getting stricter but not impossible to get.
I give up 2 times to apply PR from 10 years ago and 5 years ago. Thinking the same way as u. I'm telling u this is becoz u're switching to right channel.
I consider myself very lucky coz i tot i'd never get PR since i left Oz for 10years.
But for children sake, i reassess again, this round they change the system and recognise my exp in malaysia. I just dump in my application and try luck and i finally get it in 6 mths.
i'm bringing AUD3500 only and even walk in to supermarket to look for night fillers. Now i start work fulltime as a builder just 2 weeks after i arrive and kicking arse now.

Believe me, u won't regret here once u get ur PR. It's very hard and damn hard to establish in a foreign country. Please bear in mind u're not alone. Every immigrants has a story to tell.
Some even hv the worst scenario. but now they're living pretty relax and good. If u can sustain 1st 2 years, u're safe.

Anyone who wanna surrender their PR, please do so coz let someone who really keen have it. Social security will provide u something u need even u're single parent. No racial or religious restriction, just u as a human can apply for it. Just hang on for 2 years then u'll be fine
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Thank you Nemesis for the constant encouragement. I see most of you guys here are young , not like me who is in early 40's. Damn!!!

But like i said " if i dont try i will never know"

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QUOTE(BubuTheStar @ Sep 4 2013, 04:42 PM)
Hey there,

Been reading your post and I am in sort of a dilemma. I have a full PR that will expire next year in May 2014. I really am 50/50 on migrating back to australia. I left aust in 2008 due to financial difficulties and loss of job. Came back and have been working in sales and marketing positions for last 4 years. Now that it's close to expiry date am wondering whether or not to go back. Career wise i'm no CEO or Tony Fernandez...just earning slightly above average and in small company. My only worry is go back there have no job and no way at all to sustain myself.

Also there is the GF thing. She really wants to move there and pressuring me everyday to marry her and bring her there. Problem is we both aren't very stable together and marrying would be the last thing to do

Really in a massive dilemma now.. I know australia is good. But issit good enough to go there are slog without family...without a good job and having to work in cafe, construction, restaurant etc... i mean what's the point right if the whole point of migration is to be happier with better standard of living.

I'm not trying to knock down those who are working in these jobs... personally i feel for myself...kinda waste study so hard then go there n do all this. maybe it's my stupid pride.

But i like your posts and it would be great if you can share some of your thought processes when u decided to leave msia
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Hi Bubu,

It's really important to know what you really really want in life. If you are damn happy here and like the way this country is going, then it's your choice to be here and lose that PR. But think again, you have the PR not like some of us (me especially) who must now try hard to get one, whereas you have the ticket in your hand. It's not gonna be easy when you are in a new country. But what do you really really want?

As for me, this country is not right as far as my child is concerned. In the long run, i am thinking about his future and how he will be affected if he lives here. I have gone through quite a lot of discrimination while working. It's not easy when you have to compete all the time. So, if i get a PR succesfully and i get a job where juniors around me are paid higher than me, i just dont care because i will be working hard to make sure that my child is given the best to grow and learn and work in a place where there will be equal opportunities and fairness for him.

I am not happy the way our country is heading. Maybe for some this place is like a heaven and they know they can survive well in the long run but i know very well, it's not good for my child! In the long run, it's not good for him!






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post Sep 5 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Sep 5 2013, 10:11 AM)
Well its hard if that is your boss. For me, I only have the guts to say F her, when I resign.
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Well, u should try her in action, she'll impress of u ...LOL brows.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Sep 5 2013, 10:10 AM)
You still in Malaysia?
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Yes, still working in Malaysia. I probably will give up my visa. I am planning for my children to be there for education and hopefully they will appreciate to settle over there. This is hard for me as getting a job over there is the main obstacle.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 5 2013, 01:47 PM)
Well, u should try her in action, she'll impress of u ...LOL  brows.gif
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Err, she is my friend's boss, not mine.
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QUOTE(Skywalker10 @ Sep 5 2013, 01:48 PM)
Yes, still working in Malaysia. I probably will give up my visa. I am planning for my children to be there for education and hopefully they will appreciate to settle over there. This is hard for me as getting a job over there is the main obstacle.
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Good idea. Australia is good place for your kids and their future.
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QUOTE(Propernormal @ Sep 5 2013, 11:49 AM)
Hi Bubu,

It's really important to know what you really really want in life. If you are damn happy here and like the way this country is going, then it's your choice to be here and lose that PR. But think again, you have the PR not like some of us (me especially) who must now try hard to get one, whereas you have the ticket in your hand. It's not gonna be easy when you are in a new country. But what do you really really want?

As for me, this country is not right as far as my child is concerned. In the long run, i am thinking about his future and how he will be affected if he lives here. I have gone through quite a lot of discrimination while working. It's not easy when you have to compete all the time. So, if i get a PR succesfully and i get a job where juniors around me are paid higher than me, i just dont care because i will be working hard to make sure that my child is given the best to grow and learn and work in a place where there will be equal opportunities and fairness for him.

I am not happy the way our country is heading. Maybe for some this place is like a heaven and they know they can survive well in the long run but i know very well, it's not good for my child! In the long run, it's not good for him!
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U better be aggressive on this coz the visa thing is getting stricter now. If i were u, i don't even think of wat i'm getting here. All i wanna do is to make sure my kids get the best education and healthcare.
Do u guys ever watched the hollywood movie 'SAW'? The director is from Kuching, Malaysia. His family migrated to Perth & he studied art and shines well now. If he's still in Malaysia, what do u expect he gonna do? Maybe working in a shitty office waiting for pay everyday.
If Steve Job's parents never leave syria for US, he don't even hv chance to invent I-phone.
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QUOTE(totti 10 @ Aug 29 2011, 05:41 AM)
last few years when my gf studied there
she stumbled upon a restaurant with a signboard that says
"No Asian and strictly no Chinese"    doh.gif

And my Japanese friend when i was in Japan
he used to study over there, he had an experience kicked out of a bar
because he is an Asian  nod.gif
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Aussie is ASIAN as well!!! so wired la....
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 27 2011, 12:15 PM)
People always thinks that the grass is greener over there.
This is the wrong perception
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u will nvr know if u dont make the move and reach the other side...
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QUOTE(hikkishi @ Sep 5 2013, 02:03 PM)
Aussie is ASIAN as well!!! so wired la....
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Aussie not asians dude...they're POMs

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