I graduated from a melbourne uni, my grades were crap. Not one credit...

I wonder how am i goingt to justify to be hired, even though they don't count my job exp.

Btw, I got an MBA from a British uni.

If u're using MBA, they don't even wanna hire u. Trust me
When i start work here, all high pay position require TAFE graduates and can get 100k/annum.
Degree seems getting less than TAFE...damn

I think i mention this before. I knew a close school mate who migrated there as a surveyor. He told me he was bullied by his aussie co workers, they did not allow him to go out on the field, instead he was relegated to photostating and making deliveries. After 3 years he quit and work in malaysia for good. Since you still there, your story likely more diifferent.

Anyway coming back to me, there's not a lot of demand for accountants in australia plus I hate applying to invisible employers. Their job advertisement majority is by job recruitment firms, dunno who is the employer. What I get is the JD only. Btw, how good is their job recruitment services? I hope they are not like Malaysia, real crap. I recall I had a call from Adecco for interview, my boss was pissed with me because i took the day off for interview when she had somehting important for me to do. Then after 30 min of interview, Adecco told me that I am not suitable because my salary expectation was too high. Hello? Before adecco call me up, they didn't even bother to do their homework to check my resume on my salary expectation.

What does TAFE courses offer?

Restaurant management?

Hair stylist?

Whats a Point test advice? Do I need an Advisory Letter to support my claim for points in the GSM Points Test?

Yeah i know...my PR will expire in 2015. Sob Sob.

I am in big dilemna.

Right now, not hearing a lot of bright news about job search there.

I am dang old, mid 30s.

Ozzie is a kinda ppl who talk and action in a bully way. Just screw them directly. They'll respect u. Work site is rough especially dealing with brickies or supervisor. F**k them if required. Same case in KL. Dirty words required here...
I think ur friend is kinda fresh and not used to site condition. I doubt that he may hv innocent look which everyone like to bully him.
I dunno how many times i screwed ppl here but i try to make it less though...

It depends...mang.

Usually those who are high graders, they preform better. Like my co like to hire a lot of top scorers, they seem to absorb better than us average workers, they learn faster, quick to adapt. But they are arrogant, that is why I don't support when i hear top scorer for STPM can't get the course they want or they can't get scholarship. I don't feel sorry for them because some of these idiots end up as my colleagues or bosses, who give me dam hard time at work.

Maybe your field of work allows you to put extra effort to overcome the better ones. Maybe you mention your job before to me, I may have forgotten, but what do you do?

it's something like polytechnic or vocational skool.
it's more on bluecollar job. ppl working in construction industry hardly find degree holder. Diploma the most. They all want local exp.
Certificate? er....not really

Let's take this. Do you think the company will hire you for nothing? I mean if they pay you based on the market rate but you being told to photocopying,etc... isn't it a 'good pay'?

Hey there,

Been reading your post and I am in sort of a dilemma. I have a full PR that will expire next year in May 2014. I really am 50/50 on migrating back to australia. I left aust in 2008 due to financial difficulties and loss of job. Came back and have been working in sales and marketing positions for last 4 years. Now that it's close to expiry date am wondering whether or not to go back. Career wise i'm no CEO or Tony Fernandez...just earning slightly above average and in small company. My only worry is go back there have no job and no way at all to sustain myself.

Also there is the GF thing. She really wants to move there and pressuring me everyday to marry her and bring her there. Problem is we both aren't very stable together and marrying would be the last thing to do

Really in a massive dilemma now.. I know australia is good. But issit good enough to go there are slog without family...without a good job and having to work in cafe, construction, restaurant etc... i mean what's the point right if the whole point of migration is to be happier with better standard of living.

I'm not trying to knock down those who are working in these jobs... personally i feel for myself...kinda waste study so hard then go there n do all this. maybe it's my stupid pride.

But i like your posts and it would be great if you can share some of your thought processes when u decided to leave msia

Well, i got high grades employee become my subordinates last time. She got full scores but tak boleh pakai.
1st class honours but just that she hardly communicate and understand what we want.

Not that easy to F*** them. I give you one example, I have a friend who works at Commonwealth Bank (If I not mistaken la, because I lost touch with her for 2 years). She tells me their appraisal system is wierd. The staff appraise the boss one, and the staff also appraise one another. So there's like politics all over, especially racial ones, the whiteys get promoted faster, the bosses polish shoe and because she is asian, she gets all the stick and never get promoted. So if you f*** them, its to your peril.

My surveyor friend, he is quite fierce. He will say bad words if he has to. I am sure he did some roughing up but it didn't do him any good. I don't know the exact story, he is a proud person, he won't tell me the nitty gritty details, all I know is that he was sidelined to do dirty jobs.

To be honest, I've seen companies do that before.

Bro, I'm filling up the vetassess and what is POINT TEST ADVICE? Do I need an Advisory Letter to support my claim for points in the GSM Points Test?

Hey there,

Read your post and I'm in the same boat! Am in my 30s and wondering whether to go back to australia. I cam back in 2008 cos I lost my job in the economic turmoil.

It's like part of me is saying.. forget australia for good la and settle and try our best here. But a huge part is also considering our political situation, and malaysia is so shitty sometimes and we are just going down.

But moving to aust ain't so rosy either... for sure we will have to start all over. n in the mean time do whatever to survive which is to work in cafe...restaurant etc.

It's just our ego and mind.. how the hell we get over our pride? Or should we even do that? Maybe stay in msia?

Man i'm so ffed up!

Hehe

A big no. If yr in sales n marketing yr chances are almost nil. Firstly because you are perceived that don't know the australian market, probably couldn't speak as well as they do and most importantly not australian in appearance. further, aussies consider these kinda jobs as not specialised hence any aussie can do it.

well, that's the point. ur surveyor friend tend to become lone ranger in his company. I encountered plenty of these ppl in KL.
Look, we're working as a team and cover each other back sides. That's call teamwork. We won't try to push someone into fire to get promoted. If ur friend tend to do it tat way, he'll die faster.
In Oz still the same. If u help Oz cover his arse, he'll appreciate u and will pull u up. I can see this on my GM now. That's y he always buy me a coffee and grab me a sandwich...

I don't think it was because of that lah. He had nasty colleagues.

I also got one friend who migrated as lawyer. He only lasted in the law firm for 8 months. He told me he had a dragod lady white boss..he scold him with racist overtones almost every day. Until he had to resign, can't take the pressure.

That's true. A sparky's Cert III ticket is a worth more than an MBA. If you got a Cert IV instro ticket + Sparky ticket, you can name your terms most of the time and take home 140k.

A degree isn't worth much, thus my want to finish my TAFE ASAP and putting it even above my masters Petroleum Eng .