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dominicpcl
post Sep 4 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 4 2013, 03:22 PM)
that was like 2x more than you do your own. IS that subclass 190?

Not sure why there are 2 assessment stage as I believe the body of skill assessment will only charge once and that's including qualification and experience(like I can submit the skill assessment to ACS to assess my education and experience in one cost)

There is no fee for EOI. It is a free assessment and only pay when you get invited to do the PR application

Which state you applying for? AFAIK, NSW only charged about $300-400 for state nomination

Subclass 190 is pretty straightforward. Do IELTS and skill assessment> Lodge EOI and wait for the invitation> Lodge the PR application(with the required documents) and wait for case officer> Case officer assigned and they will ask you to do medical and police check> PR granted

Normally it just take about 3 months to get PR(from PR application lodged to PR granted)
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Should be subclass 190 under perth. 3 months to get PR??? shocking.gif
agent takes about 12months (fast approval) or 18months (slow approval)
If I were to do it on my own, any pointer on what should I do first? most probably I'll do the application on my own as I could not afford quotations from the agent.
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 4 2013, 03:23 PM)
If his occupation only available in CSOL then yes, he has to go for state sponsorship
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Yes, my occupation is only available in CSOL hence i need state sponsorship.
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 4 2013, 03:24 PM)
WHich state you going for? and yes, $5k sounds about right
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 4 2013, 05:28 PM)
Should be subclass 190 under perth. 3 months to get PR???  shocking.gif
agent takes about 12months (fast approval) or 18months (slow approval)
If I were to do it on my own, any pointer on what should I do first? most probably I'll do the application on my own as I could not afford quotations from the agent.
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12 months is the safe bet for them I guess. Or they only submit your application in few months later. Who knows.

Or you can pay me $1k and I help you do the rest brows.gif

Just jk.

Let me see what is your option there. What's your age, IELTS point, Skilled experience and education(degree,phd?)? Your wife has an occupation that listed in CSOL?
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 4 2013, 03:11 PM)
Just got back from the migration agent and I could apply PR under state sponsoring for unit group 5111 contract, program and project administrators (occupations 511112 program or project administrator). PR approval will take less than 18months. They charge us AUD12730 (rm39500) and I think it's a big sum for me. Charges breakdown as below:

Qualification Assessment Stage
Qualification Assessment Fees - AUS700 (rm2170)
Experience Assessment Fees - AUS700 (rm2170)
Agent Fees - AUD2000 (rm6200)

EOI Stage
Fees - AUD500 (rm1550)

State Sponsorship Stage
Fees - AUD1250 (rm3875)

DIAC Stage
Fees - AUD3520 (rm10912)
Agent Fees - AUD1000 (rm3100)

Spouse Visa - AUD1530 (rm4743)
Kids Visa - AUD765 x 2 = AUD1530 (rm4743)
My question is, could I apply for PR on my own to bring down the cost as I'm unsure of the procedures. How long does it usually takes for approval if we apply on our own? In this case, would it take longer than 18months approval for self application?
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Wow...going up so much! I paid mine including agent fees only AUD6600.
In that case, i suggest u DIY. Not hard to do. Just follow the instruction in DIAC websites. Some international calls required


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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 4 2013, 03:33 PM)
12 months is the safe bet for them I guess. Or they only submit your application in few months later. Who knows.

Or you can pay me $1k and I help you do the rest brows.gif

Just jk.

Let me see what is your option there. What's your age, IELTS point, Skilled experience and education(degree,phd?)? Your wife has an occupation that listed in CSOL?
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32years old (30 points)
Bachelor degree in Multimedia Studies (15 points)
IELTS - not taken the test yet (agent estimate 10 point [grade 7])
Experience - 3 years (5 points)
State Sponsor (5points)

Total = 65 points


Actually I own a design company and I've 8years of experience but graphic designer is not available under the 2013-2014 occupational list so the agent take my last 3 years of experience under my own company and file for PR application under unit group 5111 contract, program and project administrators (occupations 511112 program or project administrator). They claim that this occupation is only available in Perth under state sponsorship and is the only way I could apply a PR. I'm managing the company so the job description is closely related to the 511112 program or project administrator.

My wife is a diploma holder from local art school and she's a graphic designer so agent said she could not help much on my applications. I'm applying visa for me, my wife and 2 kids (3years old & 5 years old).

Thanks in advance for the willingness to help.

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post Sep 4 2013, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 4 2013, 03:45 PM)
Wow...going up so much! I paid mine including agent fees only AUD6600.
In that case, i suggest u DIY. Not hard to do. Just follow the instruction in DIAC websites. Some international calls required
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yes, i got a shocked as 3 years back i got assess by agent and they quoted me AUD6000... and now it freaking cost me RM39k.
I rather do it on my own to safe up some rental when I move there.
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:47 PM

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Communication is one of the important part Australian company looking for. They need someone who can mingle and communicate with them without any issue. They also prefer someone who can catch their accents and jokes. They have the bad impressions on how Asian speak though the call centers which are mostly outsourced to Asia countries

I will be going back to Malaysia next month and not sure if I should drop the Australian way in speaking to local. Here I used to the words 'how are you?, please, would you mind, hang on, cheers mate, etc' but not sure if it is awkward to use in Malaysia. tongue.gif
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Very! haha...u know wat, when i graduate my uni tat time, i went back and suddenly everyone look at me which i used to Ozzie slang and laughed by them being ang moh.
I try to use manglish and had a hard time at 1st. but 10 years is making me one. now switching back again.
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 4 2013, 03:23 PM)
agent told me that I could go for the state sponsor for an additional 5 points that make it 65points in total. State sponsor under perth as other state or region are all closed. This is my only way to apply PR they said. I use the visa estimator from IMMI and the estimated price for applying PR is AUD5280, is this real? AUD5280 to AUD12730 that agent charges is a huge different. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
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I know DIAC increase the significantly but didn't know would be tat high.
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 4 2013, 02:42 PM)
Have u really find job here, Pete?
If yes, how long and how do u apply?
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haha I apply from here.

But I got friends more capable than me, same age, same level, they cannot find job.
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post Sep 4 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(snoopdog17 @ Sep 4 2013, 02:46 PM)
I see. So this is based on the assumption that any experiences elsewhere except in Australia is inferior. I think that is a fair point. When u mention Malaysian experience, do you just mean working or degree also? Fyi, my situation is such ; i will be 25 when I migrate with 2 years of audit experience from PwC in Malaysia. Before joining PwC, I had 3 years Accounts Assistant working experience part time in Melbourne. Also I had 6 months consulting experience working with ANZ Bank in Melbourne. I also graduated from the top uni in Australia.

So if I am right, your view is that my 2 years with PwC will be as good as nothing. But how about my past Australian experiences? Will those be outdated? Also , please do elaborate more on your friends. Do they have an Australia degree? Do they have any Australian experience before migrating?

P/S : No sarcasm or offence intended. I really do want to get as many views as I can to adjust my expectations when I migrate. Cheers  smile.gif
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3 years account assistnat in Australia, ok what. At least you can justify to apply for senior exec.

Seriously I can't confirm la, the world is an oyster or life is a box of chocolates, it really depends on your luck - I presume you wanna go work for Big 4 in Australia - they may not consider you because coporate acctg is diff from msia, then again you can try your luck. But the fact you got job exp in Australia, gives you an edge and I am not saying 6 months experience or some rubbish trainee experience, 3 years counts a lot. Plus you are only 25 ! you are young, you can take the pain. Go for it !

I am talking about those in thier 30s with family, its not easy but not impossible too.
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post Sep 4 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Sep 4 2013, 03:56 PM)
haha I apply from here.

But I got friends more capable than me, same age, same level, they cannot find job.
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I'm not referring ur friend. I'm referring u

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post Sep 4 2013, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 4 2013, 02:56 PM)
Well, you've to proof your capability my friend. My boss also highlight i don't hv local exp. I mentioned to him the principal is the same. Give me 1 mth time to proof that i can adapt it that way.
Now i'm getting the same salary digit with different currency. Work scope same as KL. now my boss is happy with me and always buy me lunch when going out.
I've encountered same pakistani here too. They're some pretty well skilled and saw the way they work. People who manage to come here is well skilled and good. Just u nd to look for opportunity how to get the 1st job.
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What is your line of work?

I am an accountant by professional.
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post Sep 4 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 4 2013, 05:45 PM)
32years old (30 points)
Bachelor degree in Multimedia Studies (15 points)
IELTS - not taken the test yet (agent estimate 10 point [grade 7])
Experience - 3 years (5 points)
State Sponsor (5points)

Total = 65 points
Actually I own a design company and I've 8years of experience but graphic designer is not available under the 2013-2014 occupational list so the agent take my last 3 years of experience under my own company and file for PR application under unit group 5111 contract, program and project administrators (occupations 511112 program or project administrator). They claim that this occupation is only available in Perth under state sponsorship and is the only way I could apply a PR. I'm managing the company so the job description is closely related to the 511112 program or project administrator.

My wife is a diploma holder from local art school and she's a graphic designer so agent said she could not help much on my applications. I'm applying visa for me, my wife and 2 kids (3years old & 5 years old).

Thanks in advance for the willingness to help.
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Your wife could boost up another 5 points for you provided she getting positive in skill assessment for graphic designer but has to be in bachelor degree so just forget about it

32 years old this year? When is the month of your birthday?

1. IF all of the above is correct then you need to do skill assessment through vetassess http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus..._assessment.cfm
You can find the required documents for vetassess here http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus...d_documents.cfm
Take note the employment evidence as you have to gather evidence for your own business. More info here http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus...nt_evidence.cfm

2. While waiting for skill assessment(would take 8-12 weeks), go for the IELTS.

3. Once everything are good/positive, lodge the EOI. You no longer need to go through WA channel to lodge state nomination separately as they have now integrated together with EOI. Info here : http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/skilledmigr...ponsorship.aspx
Minimum points to lodge state nomination is 55 points and it will add another 5 points for state sponsorship

4. You have to wait for the invitation(invitation will send out fortnightly) and higher points will get the invitation first. 65 points should get the invitation in a month.

5. Once you have received the invitation, click the link from the invitation email to submit the PR application. Normally it will take about 1-2 months to have CO assigned to your case and they will contact you to provide more information like medical and police check. You can probably do the police check while waiting for CO but do the medical only when CO ask you.

Sorry, I am writing this on the tablet and in the hurry as well so please correct me if I missing something tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 4 2013, 04:13 PM)
Your wife could boost up another 5 points for you provided she getting positive in skill assessment for graphic designer but has to be in bachelor degree so just forget about it

32 years old this year? When is the month of your birthday?

1. IF all of the above is correct then you need to do skill assessment through vetassess http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus..._assessment.cfm
You can find the required documents for vetassess here http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus...d_documents.cfm
Take note the employment evidence as you have to gather evidence for your own business. More info here http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_aus...nt_evidence.cfm

2. While waiting for skill assessment(would take 8-12 weeks), go for the IELTS.

3. Once everything are good/positive, lodge the EOI. You no longer need to go through WA channel to lodge state nomination separately as they have now integrated together with EOI. Info here : http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/skilledmigr...ponsorship.aspx
Minimum points to lodge state nomination is 55 points and it will add another 5 points for state sponsorship

4. You have to wait for the invitation(invitation will send out fortnightly) and higher points will get the invitation first. 65 points should get the invitation in a month.

5. Once you have received the invitation, click the link from the invitation email to submit the PR application. Normally it will take about 1-2 months to have CO assigned to your case and they will contact you to provide more information like medical and police check. You can probably do the police check while waiting for CO but do the medical only when CO ask you.

Sorry, I am writing this on the tablet and in the hurry as well so please correct me if I missing something tongue.gif
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32 this coming october.
Thanks for all the heads up. I'll look through it first.
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Sep 4 2013, 05:56 PM)
haha I apply from here.

But I got friends more capable than me, same age, same level, they cannot find job.
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Don't ever compare with your friends when looking for job. THey are capable in study or others doesn't mean they are good in workforce. Everything is decided from your CV and interview. They prefer someone who have good personality,confidence, and able to communicate well.

There are many people capable than me but I still got a good job and pay. My manager always address me as 'machine' as me alone can do 2 people's job tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dominicpcl @ Sep 4 2013, 06:15 PM)
32 this coming october.
Thanks for all the heads up. I'll look through it first.
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then you have 1 year time to get 30 points for the age requirement

Just look at the link and read carefully. It might confuse you a bit but actually it is quite straight forward.
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What is your line of work?

I am an accountant by professional.
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I am a quantity surveyor. I worked in consultant for 6 years and 4 years in multinational property developer.

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 4 2013, 04:16 PM)
Don't ever compare with your friends when looking for job. THey are capable in study or others doesn't mean they are good in workforce. Everything is decided from your CV and interview. They prefer someone who have good personality,confidence, and able to communicate well.

There are many people capable than me but I still got a good job and pay. My manager always address me as 'machine' as me alone can do 2 people's job tongue.gif
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haha...you're right. my SPM i get grade 3...not shame to tell u. Got my BM almost F***king fail.
yeah, it's all about CV and interview. If you're good, means you're really good. 'CAN DO' attitude take precedent
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Sep 4 2013, 04:01 PM)
3 years account assistnat in Australia, ok what. At least you can justify to apply for senior exec.

Seriously I can't confirm la, the world is an oyster or life is a box of chocolates, it really depends on your luck - I presume you wanna go work for Big 4 in Australia - they may not consider you because coporate acctg is diff from msia, then again you can try your luck. But the fact you got job exp in Australia, gives you an edge and I am not saying 6 months experience or some rubbish trainee experience, 3 years counts a lot. Plus you are only 25 ! you are young, you can take the pain. Go for it !

I am talking about those in thier 30s with family, its not easy but not impossible too.
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totally agree with you. It will be very hard for those in their 30s. Do note that my 3 years experience is part time, means i juggled between university and work. Honestly when I land in Australia, I'm game for anything, big 4, mid-tier, small firms. As long as its accounting related , and I can get CPA qualified. I can say the accounting standards being used is similar as Malaysia now is using MFRS which is based on IFRS, exactly the same what Aus is using whr their version is AFRS. How old are you pete?

And I saw that on another post of yours, you apply offshore. Now I don't know the extent of your experience, but as what nemesis says, I think its still worth considering holding on to your PR if you have the time and money. Like what nemesis says, after 2 years, u can keep your PR and at the same time qualify for Centerlink which is a big help. Just don't go on to live and regret losing your PR looking at the state of Malaysia now.

Btw, applying offshore, chances of even getting an interview is almost next to none even for very senior executives. Unless its regional and they have no supply of candidates OR its highly specialised. Unfortunately, our profession is not very niche. Cheers.

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