You'll get about $4,350 after tax. $2100 per month is definitely enough for you to survive. The steepest cost you should expect are to save up the deposit for house, which you already have it, and the initial cost to get all furniture. If you are good on both front, I don't think you should worry much. At least not until your girl reach schooling age and you plan to send her to private school (which against what most Malaysian would believe, is almost a necessity at some point for most parents here) , then you will be doomed.

shld be consumer rights i guess. sorry.. To me its still human rights. Hehe. Need to get my priorities straight next time around.. Cheers

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Added on December 19, 2011, 9:18 amIm desperate but could not find any good opportunity so didnt apply. Will start searching high and low now since my colleague just got a good offer in gold coast. Aud 1k min a day

This post has been edited by henryhing: Dec 19 2011, 09:18 AM

I just met with a relative who migrated to Melbourne 20 years ago. The old couple struggled quite a bit there and had to work in factories and hotels. Their kids have grown up now and are quite okay. They were quite a successful business persons when they were in Malaysia and sold off all their business to migrate there. However, they are retired now and each of the couple are getting aus1k monthly from government or some retirement scheme. Their advice to me is still, go to Aus, it's good for kids education.

I totally agree with them:
1) struggling in Aus, your works will eventually be paid off unlike struggling here in MY, you will go nowhere
2) for non-bumis, we are treated like secondary residence. We migrate to aus or canada, we are still secondary but with better treatment from government there.
3) lifestyle is relaxing and less stress
4) social mentality is much higher with education, environment for kids to grow into better person. Not the type of "double parking" mentality here...if you know what I mean.
5) you don't need to earn a lot as things are cheaper there due to currency rate. Having 500aud balance after deducting all the neccessity from your salary, you still can get lots of things. Clothings, gadgets, phone, computers and so on. Or save up to buy a new car...Ford Fiesta Sports selling only AUD17k there. What car you can you for 17k in MY or even 52.7k (after conversion) besides lousy Proton?
6) Government there have less corruption and more pro to helping it's "people" to build a better nation. Here? Talk crap and build a better...government.

1) Like? It really depends on individual, if you can succeed in Australia, you can be successful in Malaysia too. I do not agree with this.
2) What do you expect the government to treat you? They tax you more in Australia hence more benefits. Everything still comes from the tax payer money anyway.
3) It really depends. Most of the cases, yes, but there are many roles that require 24/7 standby and workload that needs to overflow to weekend. Both Malaysia and Australia have roles that only need you to be present and do very little stuff and relax. Point is, if you are in a role that is really stressful in Malaysia and you move to Australia to look for a job that is almost identical, it might be easier, but you shouldn't expect big changes.
4) Higher is a wrong word. The education and environment are not ideal as most of you would think. Think of US and UK, and you shouldn't expect Australia to be much better then those two countries. Which is why I said in my previous post, private education is a necessity for most parents nowadays. And mind you, even for primary education, it starts at 17k per annum ++ of fees.
5) Getting a place to stay will cost you the most here. If you don't have one, you will still struggle. My opinion is, you should never ever migrate to Australia because of money. If you are planning for the same lifestyle you had back in Malaysia and you didn't save in Malaysia, you wouldn't save here in Autsralia too.
6) You got a really wrong perception on this. This is not just an Australian problem, but a democracy problem. Having short term government that changes every other term are the culprit of THINGS NEVER GET DONE. A short and simple example in Sydney. Talks had been going since 20 years ago about having a second airport, about having train services to north west region, building/expanding freeways in hills district and western suburbs. Millions have been spent on consultation to make up plans to have it scrapped when a new government comes into power. In the end, its the people that struggles with wasted tax money, traffic congestion and long traveling time. Just have a look at the wiki below on one of the example mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_West_railway_line,_Sydney

1) I am not talking about high flying job when I mention struggling. I am talking about the simple kind of job where you work at a clerk in supermarket and you still get to live decently in Aus. Can a cashier live as decently in MY?
2) You pay higher tax in Aus but at least you know where the money goes. Do you know where all your tax money end up in MY?
3) I am talking about generally. Don't lah go compare work that require 24/7 standby.
4) Do you know what is the status of MY's education system? The government are using education as in the political games. Do you have any idea how bad it is?
5) Yup staying is expensive in Aus only if you compare it with other country. If you work there and live there. It shouldn't be big problem. And of course I don't ever mean someone who migrate with nothing. That's suicide whichever country you are going.
6) I know every country have their own problems. Politics, social and so on. But if you weight the problems they are facing in Aus or Sg or Can with MY, I think you know which is the worst.

I am getting advise from someone who migrated there and struggled there (in Aus) for 20 years and still thinks it is a worth it. They are the perfect example for my reference. Who is your reference for your point of argument? The internet?

This post has been edited by abubin: Dec 19 2011, 02:30 PM

I'm staying in Sydney. Been here 6 years in total. Worked in Malaysia for 5 years in between. That good enough for you?

A lot of people sees overseas as a greener pasture and that is not true. This is human nature and it is the same for every country, even people here that kept b****ing and looking to move. But of course, there are less, as compared to European and NZ'der that wants to move to Australia for example. If you are saying people in Malaysia are struggling, put them in these other countries, it is as bad if not worse.

Malaysia is comparable to a lot of countries in many ways, Malaysia do have a lot of potential that yes, had been abused by the government. I do not think people should think about Australia as an absolute better place so that you want to move over no matter what.

And my point is? If you can succeed in Australia, you could do it in Malaysia too. Its your attitude in life that make you successful, not whether you are in Malaysia or Australia. To me, so many things that many people says to de-minimis Malaysia is very untrue.

agree with you, dun migrate just becoz of money (A$ = 3xRM)

i wanna point out that 650k u can't even get a decent hse if u're in metro areas like sydney, melbourne or perth

to add, i doubt u can earn A$15k/month easily in Oz..its possible if you have a in-demand skills..
have u read Oz newspaper online as well ? there are still crimes there..
dun always think about good things in Oz..
there are still bad stuff..

im not saying i love MY, but dun migrate for the money sake..think properly do u really wanna risk ur family to start over in a new country..?

and many that cant survive and came back and there are some that even got separated due to migrating to Oz..

so think properly..

i don't know about some of your but migrating for money's sake is the last thing I am going to do. It is really not smart to migrate for money.

migrate for money? no
working in australia for money then back msia? yes

I agree with you. However I find it hard to believe Divine....my sense.
I do have bunch of my former colleagues who migrated to Aus. Just to cut the long story short, they are happier and more prosperous in Australia compare to in Malaysia. They're just in their early to mid 30s.

Thank you for the feedback. Much appreciate it

hihihehe - I know, it is a bit steep. Will see if i can nego a bit more on salary.

Annielee - Thank you. I will have to do a proper planning and read up more on FTB and Child Care Benefit from FAO and Centrelink websites.

Divine061 - Yes, i actually agree with you on sending my daughter to private school next time. But that is not for another few years and hopefully by then we are more settled financially

We are still trying to weigh the pros and cons. It is not easy when you have wife and child, compared to when you are still single But at least we got PR, house, car and a job offer for starter.... Big decision to make.

is really up to personal preference..i like the way i earn here but i prefer the lifestyle in malaysia where all my close friends staying..

My 2 cents worth of opinion in red above.

Maybe if you go to Perth, the story is very different from what I mentioned. But I would think you should compare KL to Sydney if you want an apple to apple comparison. I've lived in both city and neither are much better then the other.

Hypothetically, if Sydney have the population density of KL and everything else is the same, then I would think Sydney is a much better place. Cause with that, the infrastructure in Sydney can and will be greatly improved. However, as it stands, the house price is so expensive even if you have to live 30 mins to 1 hour away that it is really unreasonable.

Another thing you should probably know is that you need to have different expectation here. It is not uncommon for people here to stay in Blue Mountains or Central Coast and travel to city or North City to work everyday. That's like Genting-KL or Melaka-KL kinda distance 3-4hours traveling everyday. To many Sydneysiders, this is the only way they can afford a house with big yard and gardens.

And mind you, Sydney is still using heavy rail network, so traveling in train is not like in Japan or Euro that type of speed.

A lot of people don't mind it, I probably won't mind either in a few years down the track when everything in my life is stable. So I'm not complaining here, its more of an FYI.

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Added on December 19, 2011, 7:16 pmYou are offered the position because you did applied to it in the first place. So I am pretty sure you have already weighted your pros and cons before. So unless some drastic changes happened in between, I would say to you to just come and give it a go. Moving to Australia is hard, moving back isn't. Try it out for a year and who knows what life brings you. Don't say no just because the initial offer is low as it is just temporary, things will always get better.



This post has been edited by divine061: Dec 19 2011, 07:16 PM

Well, I personally wanted to apply for offshore immigration (Permanent Residence status), not migration (which means giving up malaysia citizenship).

Well, if you are talking bout saving the same both in Aus or M'sia, I would definitely say its better in terms of Aus.Firstly, buying power is stronger. Secondly, if you ever do consider returning to malaysia, its almost 3 times of what you save in Malaysia.

Do you mean to say that I would need to prepare for 6 months of living expenses at least during my search for job in Aus? That would be at least 12k Aussie if i'm calculating on a 2k/month basis.

If u are talking bout malaysia govenement, I would say unstable and hopeless, yet not the worst we've seen. My point is, if we were to change the governemnt to improve or change, I might as well change myself.

Undenialbly, working in other countries is good exposure and experience. It even add points to your CV. No harm right?
If I struggle at first, but get rewarded later with a stable life, y not?

I would agree on the point of not migrating ecause of the money, but as for working in Aus for the money and strong currency, y not?

Racism, I seriously dun think we get treated any better in Aus.But at least I dun buy properties with a higher rate, get equal rights in terms of governement bonds and shares, no such thing as bonds that are specially catered for australian whites, and so on.

The best thing is, I'm not attached. So I'm quite free to move about. lol

Divine061 - Thank you for the constructive feedback. Will need to plan the big move!

T3N5AI - You won't be eligible for Aust citizenship until you get PR anyway and yes, i agree, in terms of dollar earned and dollar spent (ringgit earned and ringgit spent), Aust definately has a higher purchasing power.

there's no route to get Oz citizenship directly..u need to get ur PR first and fulfill the requirement in order to get citizenship..
yes..6 months is the max..if u are lucky u can get a job earlier..A$12k for 6 months actually might not be enough, unless u r renting a room only..
since you are single, definitely no harm trying, but if you want to apply for PR, i will advise you to do that before July 2012, as the rules will be changing..and it will be more difficult..i do have friends that are still waiting after 3 years of submission of her application due to the rules changes..

good luck :-)

Hi Xander, Im not sure what is a decent house as its very subjective, but would u consider a 4 bed room + 1 games room bungalow(single storey) on a 370square metre land a decent house?? If yes then I can sell u my house in perth( success WA 6164) to u for Aud 650K anytime. Its not very far from perth city..Good hous no, facing field, supermarket, station etc is all nearby