I have couple of European buddies who are happy to be here, even taking all their savings in Euro to our local banks due to uncertainty on Euro. So yeah, they are flocking to Asia now.

Which part of Australia are you residing? I know it's pretty bad in Sydney but in Perth and Melbourne, quite a lot of Asians there. Shouldn't be that hard?

I stay in Brisbane. Perth and Melbourne hv a lot of asians cos a lot of students thr.

just how bad izzit over there in Aus? I'm quite curious because I'm starting my migration process soon.
Does working industry matters? I'm an engineer. Whats your major?

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Added on December 14, 2011, 2:26 amSeriously, i got a shock at the well heated up debate by previous forumers. As thread starter, i created this thread with the intention to SHARE, not ARGUE. I know its a thin line that separates both, but please guys, try ot to cross the line.

Below are the reaons for my intentino for migration.

1) Looking at the country's political and ecnomical state, to me, is quite saddening if you compare to other neighbouring countries whom started from scratch around when we gained independance. And politicians who are more concerned bout their pockets than their countrymen are really disheartening. Refering to the previous forumers, aren't we working hard to pay up our income tax for the politicians to spend at their whimp and fancy? Working in the construction line for 3 years +, i came to a sad conclusion. There is not such thing as not approved and not possible in this line as long as u are willing to pay and lobby te officials.

2) Racism. Yea, there are racial discrimination goin on n Aus, but aren't we in the same situation in Malaysia? Whats with the bumi housing discounts and min 30% bumi staffs in every berhad company, not to mention,islamic loans onli for bumis. Please correct if i'm wrong as i still lack knowledge in the racial discrimination in aus.

3) Money. Currency is strong in aus, buying power is stronger and same goes for savings. Nearest country with stronger currency would be singapore, but too bad i dislike the environment and the mindset of singapore.

4) Lifestyle. Not as hectic as in singapore and malaysia. I beg to differ. But i heard working is 8-5 daily, not more or less or overtime duties.

Please feel free to give opinions without hesitation and express your views but pease do not offend anyone with hrsh words and expressions. tq

This post has been edited by T3N5AI: Dec 14 2011, 02:26 AM

Was considering to move there. Got couple of offers in hand. But I read lafha will be abolished starting June next year (well, they changing the terms). Thats the case than I have to find some other country to go.

You will know how bad is it when you get there
Like I said, unless you already got a "confirmed" offer, chances are you are gonna struggle. Yr MYR cannot last long in Aus btw and you could take anywhere between 6 months to 1 year to even get a job. So good luck

I have a friend and his family migrated to gold coast few years back. He told me life is tough in the first 2 years even after taking close to RM2m with him. He is using business visa and he has to invest in a business to prove his worth. Then, he bought a local pizza franchise restaurant and flip bread for 2 years. That's pure sweat if you asked me!

Wow, dat looks bad. where state was he at?

Oz is still relatively a small economy of 25m people if u take out the mining boom and property (fueled by foreigners). Personal income tax is close to 50% top scale and on global basis. So your income in MY is taxable even if u do not send to Au. Mining very dependent on China so u can wait and see how what happened next year. I am told that getting a job for a new grad(with PR) range from 6 mth for accounting grad to more than 1 year for engineers.
Unless u hv a confirmed job, u are better off going to Singapore.

A lot of grad doing other job eg McD, Big W while applying for job ( enuf to pay for food but papa and mama using retirement mony to pay for rent.)

And migrating to Au for your child's education . . . . think again.


This post has been edited by ceejay: Dec 16 2011, 09:10 AM

And yet so many people die, die also want to go....
I guess they would rather die of starvation in Aus then have a repressed but acceptable lifestyle in M'sia?

That's an excellent summary. I guess it's more of the grass is always greener on the other side? Or... ?

I still have not got an offer from Oz yet

Just to share my reson to try out australia;

1. Children's education & future : I can save alot on that.

2. Human rights: Its obvious as the people's mentality there is diff eg. U can return things u bought but unhappy without questioning, there sales mean sales unlike here some people sell 2nd hand stuff more than new( check out mudah)

3. Higher salary.

4. Cost of living: eg Rm15k/month here = bungalow about 1.5mil min Camry about 170k. Aud15k/month bungalow 650k, camry less than 30k. etc..

No offense, I love Malaysia but somehow dont feel welcome anymore when read newspaper daily..

seriously, if u think u can survive in australia and want to try different environment, u are welcome to come but if u cant imagine what going to be happened in australia, stay back...

finding job is hard in australia especially for asian but you still can get a job if you can speak really well in english, good qualification and not choosy..

my english is not that good but i still can get a job after 4 months of NON-STOP searching(1 day at least 10 applications).

wow..that alot. so far i have sent 2 application within the past 9months.. Will try harder

2 in 9 months??? i'm sure u not desperate enough to find a job..

The one highlited, they are trying to con..

I have an offer to work in Australia permanently. I have PR so that is not an issue for me.

Offer is AU$70k per annum (less tax), plus super, plus company car (ie. all car expenses, fuel, insurance etc are paid by company).
I think after tax, my take home pay is around AU$4600 per month

I have a house there. Monthly home loan repayment is around AU$2500. So after paying this, it will only leave me with AU$2100 per month so it is a bit steep (for Aust standard?).

I have a wife and one year old daughter. My wife is an Aust graduate but has never worked in Australia before. If we migrate, she would like to work there, which is fine by me.

I am not sure how long it would take her to get a job, but i think i should be able to support 3 of us for a few months while she is looking for job??
And it also depends on how much is her pay, because if she works, our daughter will have to go to daycare and it costs a bomb.

Another concern is here we got maid, family, in laws here to help look after our daughter. We don't have any of help there..

Is it worth for me to take up the offer? I understand that it is not going to be bed and roses once we migrate. It is probably going to be a struggle in the first few years. But i think once we settle it is going to be ok.... *Fingers crossed*

Any thought / input? Thanks

This post has been edited by apple2011: Dec 18 2011, 12:38 AM

you will be able to survive but there will be no saving unless ur wife start working..

if you think u will be suffering then don take the offer or nego the salary...

IMO..agree with hihihehe, its a bit steep...nego with ur company on the package or look for another job.. :-)

car > no expenses needed as covered by company
rent/house loan > A$2.5k
utilities (water, electricity, gas and etc..) depends on ur usage
grocery > depends on ur lifestyle
misc > ??

as u know as a PR with family, you can claim for FTA or B (dun ask me about it, do read up)..
i guess, ur wife still can look after ur daughter initially, and when she found a job, she can put her in child care..(part of the child care cost can be claim under FTA or B, im not sure..)

U equate human rights to sales return. . . Mmmm. No comments.