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annielee
post Jun 13 2013, 09:25 AM

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not sure which profession you are in, 1st you need to get ur skills accessed by respective org..
for eg, for IT, it will be ACS.. and it does require few years experience (more than 2, if im not wrong) to get a positive assessment..

positive skills assessment (where you will be given a ASCO code) is needed for state sponsored and general skilled visa, which will determine whether ur skills is in the list or not, if your skills is not in the list, you dont even need to think further..

given you are kinda fresh, you wont be able to get a positive assessment, and since you mentioned you cant go to the Graduate visa route either

your best option now is work for few years and apply when you qualify.. and read forums frequently for the time being..to get yourself familiar with the rules...

like myself.. i waited for a year to qualify to meet the no of years experience needed, then only i apply for it.. and i DIY coz im quite comfortable with the rules since i've already read alot of forums..and wanted to save money as well...

there's no shortcut if your skills are not in demand or u cant get employer sponsored.. unless you got a lot of money to migrate..


QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 11 2013, 09:29 PM)
I have read up on the nominated jobs, but I have no idea how it works.  Do I need to get the state's approval or something?  Can someone enlighten me on how this concept works?
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post Jun 13 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 13 2013, 10:25 AM)
not sure which profession you are in, 1st you need to get ur skills accessed by respective org..
for eg, for IT, it will be ACS.. and it does require few years experience (more than 2, if im not wrong) to get a positive assessment..

positive skills assessment (where you will be given a ASCO code) is needed for state sponsored and general skilled visa, which will determine whether ur skills is in the list or not, if your skills is not in the list, you dont even need to think further..

given you are kinda fresh, you wont be able to get a positive assessment, and since you mentioned you cant go to the Graduate visa route either

your best option now is work for few years and apply when you qualify.. and read forums frequently for the time being..to get yourself familiar with the rules...

like myself.. i waited for a year to qualify to meet the no of years experience needed, then only i apply for it.. and i DIY coz im quite comfortable with the rules since i've already read alot of forums..and wanted to save money as well...

there's no shortcut if your skills are not in demand or u cant get employer sponsored.. unless you got a lot of money to migrate..
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Yes, I have read up on the assessment by ACS, and it requires two years of working experience. Did you apply for a visa or a PR, and how much in total did you spend on it? Will additional certificate such as PMP or CCNA /CCNP give me an advantage in applying for VISA / PR?

Thanks for the advice, it really helped a lot notworthy.gif
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:02 AM

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again, you need to read the ACS website or even forums to get the latest updates...
during my time (5 years ago), Cisco certs are not recognized at all.. not sure about now..
forums im mentioning here is not LYN, google and there are heaps of forums about Migrating to Oz.. where you can learn and get information from...
i cant really recall how much i spend.. but i did save since i DIY.. just pay the applications fees for ACS, PR, IELTS, PCC and medical..

now, dont ask me what is PCC and stuff..

just read and research...

none of us here can give you definite answer as everyone situation is different..

from your q, it does explain you dont know much about the rules of migrating to oz.. so as what i've told b4..goto forums and get more information..

QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 13 2013, 09:53 AM)
Yes, I have read up on the assessment by ACS, and it requires two years of working experience.  Did you apply for a visa or a PR, and how much in total did you spend on it?  Will additional certificate such as PMP or CCNA /CCNP give me an advantage in applying for VISA / PR? 

Thanks for the advice, it really helped a lot  notworthy.gif
Cheers!
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post Jun 13 2013, 04:02 PM

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Well guys, current market is pretty quiet. I'm in the process of applying 30+ jobs from malaysia. 5 replied saying i hv to be there then only decide the interview. Will be heading there continuing job hunting.
My friend who's working there, his company is facing financial difficulties as hardly get any project so far. Seems everyone is hanging on their job from what they have now.
I think VISA/PR is not the hardest part. The question is how long can u survive there without a proper job. Odd job will help you paying bills but for how long?

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post Jun 13 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 13 2013, 05:02 PM)
Well guys, current market is pretty quiet. I'm in the process of applying 30+ jobs from malaysia. 5 replied saying i hv to be there then only decide the interview. Will be heading there continuing job hunting.
My friend who's working there, his company is facing financial difficulties as hardly get any project so far. Seems everyone is hanging on their job from what they have now.
I think VISA/PR is not the hardest part. The question is how long can u survive there without a proper job. Odd job will help you paying bills but for how long?
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Hi, do you currently have a VISA/PR? Are you fresh grad or with working experience? From your username, it seems you are of same age as I am smile.gif
Wish you the best of luck in job hunting!

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post Jun 13 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 13 2013, 04:41 PM)
Hi, do you currently have a VISA/PR?  Are you fresh grad or with working experience?  From your username, it seems you are of same age as I am smile.gif
Wish you the best of luck in job hunting!

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I got my PR recently this year. I've been working for 10years now in KL.
Yeah, pretty tough so far. Will be heading down under next month to meet with recruitment agency. hopefully to get attach to a company targeting 3 mths time. If not, eat grass...hehe

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 13 2013, 05:16 PM)
I got my PR recently this year. I've been working for 10years now in KL.
Yeah, pretty tough so far. Will be heading down under next month to meet with recruitment agency. hopefully to get attach to a company targeting 3 mths time. If not, eat grass...hehe
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still haven't ciao??? I thought you left long time d ...

If I got my PR, I would leave within 1 month!! sad.gif
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 13 2013, 04:02 PM)
Well guys, current market is pretty quiet. I'm in the process of applying 30+ jobs from malaysia. 5 replied saying i hv to be there then only decide the interview. Will be heading there continuing job hunting.
My friend who's working there, his company is facing financial difficulties as hardly get any project so far. Seems everyone is hanging on their job from what they have now.
I think VISA/PR is not the hardest part. The question is how long can u survive there without a proper job. Odd job will help you paying bills but for how long?
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Good move.
Try to secure a job first before moving over.
That will solve alot of problems.
Don't do odd jobs. Coz if you do it for 1-2 years, its very difficult to explain to employers when you want to move back to your original job.
Esp if your job is in an everchanging environment
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post Jun 14 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Jun 13 2013, 10:56 PM)
Good move.
Try to secure a job first before moving over.
That will solve alot of problems.
Don't do odd jobs. Coz if you do it for 1-2 years, its very difficult to explain to employers when you want to move back to your original job.
Esp if your job is in an everchanging environment
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Securing a job without a permanent australian address and/or a phone number is harder compared to being on-site. Most employer won't even consider you and will just reply you with a blanket rejection template, unless your skill is in great demand and they can't find it locally. Moreover, you must also be aware the employers are also aware of various job scams.

Odd jobs are good if you can leverage it to get a good reference and contacts for your job of interest. In terms of explaining to employers about your odd jobs, you could always elaborate that you have gained invaluable customer service skills in dealing with people esp. difficult customers . The interview process is basically to judge how quickly you can react to a problem presented to you, and future employers would be impressed if you could use whatever experience, and make it relevant to your field.

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post Jun 14 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 13 2013, 06:18 PM)
still haven't ciao??? I thought you left long time d ...

If I got my PR, I would leave within 1 month!!  sad.gif
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Yo bro!I got family to feed ler, need to arrange everything make sure they won't suffer when i'm going out for job hunting.
Believe it or not, i book my air ticket less than RM350...hehe

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post Jun 14 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Jun 13 2013, 10:56 PM)
Good move.
Try to secure a job first before moving over.
That will solve alot of problems.
Don't do odd jobs. Coz if you do it for 1-2 years, its very difficult to explain to employers when you want to move back to your original job.
Esp if your job is in an everchanging environment
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1st month might need to meet agent as more as possible. Later if no news, then might walk in to meet HR.
If 2nd month really no news, then really need to do some odd jobs. If 3rd month still no job, might heading melbourne or sydney try luck.
Based on last trip, Perth has like 1000 new immigrants coming in each week as highlighted in local newspaper and this really shocked me.
I definitely will try to invest a property there as rental is good.
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QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Jun 14 2013, 09:47 AM)
Securing a job without a permanent australian address and/or a phone number is harder compared to being on-site. Most employer won't even consider you and will just reply you with a blanket rejection template, unless your skill is in great demand and they can't find it locally. Moreover, you must also be aware the employers are also aware of various job scams.

Odd jobs are good if you can leverage it to get a good reference and contacts for your job of interest. In terms of explaining to employers about your odd jobs, you could always elaborate that you have gained invaluable customer service skills in dealing with people esp. difficult customers . The interview process is basically to judge how quickly you can react to a problem presented to you, and future employers would be impressed if you could use whatever experience, and make it relevant to your field.
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Yeap, tried that too. I have new add and phone no. overthere. Well, it's very understood that there's various job scams flying around which i always received.
Your opinion on odd jobs is good! Yeah, might not be the best choice but at least can make me sustain in looking for permanent jobs.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 12:08 PM)
1st month might need to meet agent as more as possible. Later if no news, then might walk in to meet HR.
If 2nd month really no news, then really need to do some odd jobs. If 3rd month still no job, might heading melbourne or sydney try luck.
Based on last trip, Perth has like 1000 new immigrants coming in each week as highlighted in local newspaper and this really shocked me.
I definitely will try to invest a property there as rental is good.
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So you're trying your luck in Perth first? I have a good (rich) friend who lives there with a freakishly huge house and drives a Honda City. I visited him last year, and I really liked the people and the culture there smile.gif
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 11:04 AM)

Believe it or not, i book my air ticket less than RM350...hehe
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that's so freaking cheap!! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

AirAsia??

QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 11:08 AM)
1st month might need to meet agent as more as possible. Later if no news, then might walk in to meet HR.
If 2nd month really no news, then really need to do some odd jobs. If 3rd month still no job, might heading melbourne or sydney try luck.
Based on last trip, Perth has like 1000 new immigrants coming in each week as highlighted in local newspaper and this really shocked me.
I definitely will try to invest a property there as rental is good.
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New immigrants from where?? Highly skilled or no skilled?
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post Jun 14 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(T3N5AI @ Aug 27 2011, 03:40 PM)
Dailo, I'm male la. Moreover it's a big deviation from my engineering profession.


Added on August 27, 2011, 3:42 pm

Have u worked in Australia or studied there before?
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I was a nurse before in aussie smile.gif Definition of nurses in Malaysia has been tarnished. You could be a nurse and help the elderly at the centre. smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 14 2013, 11:15 AM)
So you're trying your luck in Perth first?  I have a good (rich) friend who lives there with a freakishly huge house and drives a Honda City.  I visited him last year, and I really liked the people and the culture there smile.gif
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well, I've been to Australia quite a number of times but Perth is the 1st time. So far, the city size is more or less like Kuching or Penang.
The city got like 2million ppl. They're trying to expand and getting more ppl in.
Well, getting new cars there is very very very cheap. For what you're paying a BMW here, you can get Porsche there. Toyota Estima is just a general cars whereby Malaysia is something lavish.
Yeah, living lifestyle is quite layback. I know the way they work is in slow pace but efficient....hehe
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 14 2013, 11:30 AM)
that's so freaking cheap!!  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

AirAsia??
New immigrants from where?? Highly skilled or no skilled?
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Yeah, it's freakingly cheap! i booked airasia + tax + meal + extra luggage all just RM350 one way. Even return ticket would cost less than RM400. Cheaper than travelling sabah or sarawak. DAMN! My advise is if your flying hours is less than 5 hrs, AA is not a problem. If you're travelling to NZ which takes 10 hrs. I suggest getting MAS or SG airline or QANTAS.

Immigrants mainly are skilled. There's some minor refugees which is quite minimal. I'm quite surprise with this report, however, the states is taking 1/3 of Ozzie land and i think there's plenty of space and resources to share of...don't you think?

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 01:05 PM)
Yeah, it's freakingly cheap! i booked airasia + tax + meal + extra luggage all just RM350 one way. Even return ticket would cost less than RM400. Cheaper than travelling sabah or sarawak. DAMN! My advise is if your flying hours is less than 5 hrs, AA is not a problem. If you're travelling to NZ which takes 10 hrs. I suggest getting MAS or SG airline or QANTAS.

Immigrants mainly are skilled. There's some minor refugees which is quite minimal. I'm quite surprise with this report, however, the states is taking 1/3 of Ozzie land and i think there's plenty of space and resources to share of...don't you think?
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Cool! Hopefully I have a chance to go there in the near future. Good luck!!!

Cheers!
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QUOTE(ieyjj @ Jun 14 2013, 11:33 AM)
I was a nurse before in aussie smile.gif Definition of nurses in Malaysia has been tarnished. You could be a nurse and help the elderly at the centre. smile.gif
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Nursing?? That's good lo ... in many countries, nursing is considered shortage skilled jobs... I've seen a number of malaysians migrated being in this profession. Where are you now?? In NZ or back in M'sia???

Why didn't I choose nursing ... sad.gif

QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 12:05 PM)
Immigrants mainly are skilled. There's some minor refugees which is quite minimal. I'm quite surprise with this report, however, the states is taking 1/3 of Ozzie land and i think there's plenty of space and resources to share of...don't you think?
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Not surprising. Australia is huge!! Greenland is about 2.1million km2, Borneo is about 0.7mil km2, while Australia is 8.6mil km2. You can imagine how big is the land size!!

Even the whole EU with 27 member states is only 4.3mil km2....!!!
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 11:12 AM)
Yeap, tried that too. I have new add and phone no. overthere. Well, it's very understood that there's various job scams flying around which i always received.
Your opinion on odd jobs is good! Yeah, might not be the best choice but at least can make me sustain in looking for permanent jobs.
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From a jobseekers point of view, beware of a scam going around that advertises for a job that works from home at the moment with no prior experience whatsoever and they give you the job without the interview. The catch is that they will request for your bank details and you will serve as their money mule in respect of illegal money laundering activities. Beware I was aware of this before getting scammed.

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