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Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.
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sendomike
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Jun 10 2013, 01:36 PM
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I got a couple of questions in mind, which I hope LYN people will be able to answer: 1. Where do I register for IELTS? 2. Do I need to attend classes or it's optional? 3. Cost of exam fee for IELTS 4. Any websites which I can learn and practice on
Thanks in advance!
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hihihehe
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Jun 10 2013, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 10 2013, 03:26 PM) Writing vs typing does make a huge difference, particularly in terms of flow when you have limited time. You do need to use English daily not just in your workplace however in my opinion, looking at what you wrote above is already an indication that you're not up there yet grammar-wise. Hope you did ok over the weekend. I know what my quality is and you are right that I still far away in using correct grammar. I just hope I don't need to return back to that torturing test room.
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supercolossal
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Jun 10 2013, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 10 2013, 01:36 PM) I got a couple of questions in mind, which I hope LYN people will be able to answer: 1. Where do I register for IELTS? 2. Do I need to attend classes or it's optional? 3. Cost of exam fee for IELTS 4. Any websites which I can learn and practice on Thanks in advance! 1. A couple of places ie IDP or British Council. Google up their offices and give them a call. 2. Up to you, classes will require separate fees. No prerequisite that you need to attend classes before sitting for exam. 3. RM580 when I last checked in IDP 4. Plenty, just need to google.
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sendomike
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Jun 10 2013, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 10 2013, 05:53 PM) 1. A couple of places ie IDP or British Council. Google up their offices and give them a call. 2. Up to you, classes will require separate fees. No prerequisite that you need to attend classes before sitting for exam. 3. RM580 when I last checked in IDP 4. Plenty, just need to google. Thanks for the reply. Is the validity period still stuck at 2 years? I was hoping to work for around a year or so before starting to look for jobs in Australia. Do you think one year experience is sufficient? I am currently a project coordinator in IT Infrastructure. Was thinking of getting a CCNA cert after my probation period is over
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tishaban
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Jun 10 2013, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 10 2013, 05:58 PM) I was hoping to work for around a year or so before starting to look for jobs in Australia. Do you think one year experience is sufficient? I am currently a project coordinator in IT Infrastructure. Was thinking of getting a CCNA cert after my probation period is over  Google up the points system to see how much your experience is worth, but to summarize 1 year experience outside Australia is worth nothing and in general more is better.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 11 2013, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 10 2013, 05:58 PM) Thanks for the reply. Is the validity period still stuck at 2 years? I was hoping to work for around a year or so before starting to look for jobs in Australia. Do you think one year experience is sufficient? I am currently a project coordinator in IT Infrastructure. Was thinking of getting a CCNA cert after my probation period is over  Well, 2 years is the most ridiculous terms i could say. IELTS consist expiry date! It's something like u know how to swim, after 2 years, u seems completely forgot and get u to test whether u could remember to swim or not. Working experience is vital especially if u're looking for jobs in Oz. If u have 5 years exp, they probably will 'tekan' u kaw kaw saying u got no local exp. But i think u could try top tier company whereby more international candidates working. My fren got the job offer and recognise malaysia experience which they consider transferable
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sendomike
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Jun 11 2013, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 11 2013, 11:03 AM) Well, 2 years is the most ridiculous terms i could say. IELTS consist expiry date! It's something like u know how to swim, after 2 years, u seems completely forgot and get u to test whether u could remember to swim or not. Working experience is vital especially if u're looking for jobs in Oz. If u have 5 years exp, they probably will 'tekan' u kaw kaw saying u got no local exp. But i think u could try top tier company whereby more international candidates working. My fren got the job offer and recognise malaysia experience which they consider transferable That is one of my biggest concerns, actually. I was afraid that working experience in Malaysia will be deemed as irrelevant for companies in Australia. Therefore, I would like to find as much information as possible before applying for skilled migration VISA or PR. Hope someone can advise me on this, because I don't want to work for 5 years and then find out that the working experience here are not transferable. This post has been edited by sendomike: Jun 11 2013, 10:39 AM
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eyhc89
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Jun 11 2013, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 11 2013, 10:38 AM) That is one of my biggest concerns, actually. I was afraid that working experience in Malaysia will be deemed as irrelevant for companies in Australia. Therefore, I would like to find as much information as possible before applying for skilled migration VISA or PR. Hope someone can advise me on this, because I don't want to work for 5 years and then find out that the working experience here are not transferable. It depends solely on the employers. Generally employers are quite reluctant to sponsor a visa unless they have to. And I don't think all employers would scrap your Malaysian experience. If you have knowledge on something, you have it and you just have to demonstrate it in your interviews. I know someone who had a few years of experience in Malaysia, applied for his own PR and in less than a month, landed a contract job with an employer in Australia onshore. It is quite difficult to be offered a job offshore. Having said that, did you graduate from an Australian university?
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sendomike
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Jun 11 2013, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(eyhc89 @ Jun 11 2013, 12:34 PM) It depends solely on the employers. Generally employers are quite reluctant to sponsor a visa unless they have to. And I don't think all employers would scrap your Malaysian experience. If you have knowledge on something, you have it and you just have to demonstrate it in your interviews. I know someone who had a few years of experience in Malaysia, applied for his own PR and in less than a month, landed a contract job with an employer in Australia onshore. It is quite difficult to be offered a job offshore. Having said that, did you graduate from an Australian university? I did not graduate from an Australian university. I have a local degree in IT, majoring in Software Engineering. Since different universities may have different tiers, will that be an advantage if I graduated from a top-tier university in Malaysia? May I know how long it will take to process a PR, provided that I have all the necessary requirements?
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annielee
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Jun 11 2013, 12:14 PM
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you can look at this visa 476if you meet the requirement, u should be able to get the PR within one year, if your case is straightforward.. Can see that you didnt read/research on the Immi to Oz topic..my advise to you is to read more (not only on LYN), and do your own research.. Google will be your best friend... dont just depend on answer given by us here :-) QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 11 2013, 12:09 PM) I did not graduate from an Australian university. I have a local degree in IT, majoring in Software Engineering. Since different universities may have different tiers, will that be an advantage if I graduated from a top-tier university in Malaysia? May I know how long it will take to process a PR, provided that I have all the necessary requirements?
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sendomike
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Jun 11 2013, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 11 2013, 01:14 PM) you can look at this visa 476if you meet the requirement, u should be able to get the PR within one year, if your case is straightforward.. Can see that you didnt read/research on the Immi to Oz topic..my advise to you is to read more (not only on LYN), and do your own research.. Google will be your best friend... dont just depend on answer given by us here :-) Hi annielee, thanks for the answer. you all are a great help to a newbie like me  Cheers!
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eyhc89
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Jun 11 2013, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 11 2013, 01:03 PM) Hi annielee, thanks for the answer. you all are a great help to a newbie like me  Cheers! I agree with annielee. The immigration website is very helpful and resourceful. I applied my own PR based on these information and got it approved in less than 4 months' time but it varies for everyone.
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sendomike
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Jun 11 2013, 03:08 PM
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Sadly, I don't qualify because I don't have an Engineering degree. Dem
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supercolossal
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Jun 11 2013, 04:08 PM
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Why don't go with the typical 189, 190 or 489 type of visa?
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hihihehe
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Jun 11 2013, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 10 2013, 07:58 PM) Thanks for the reply. Is the validity period still stuck at 2 years? I was hoping to work for around a year or so before starting to look for jobs in Australia. Do you think one year experience is sufficient? I am currently a project coordinator in IT Infrastructure. Was thinking of getting a CCNA cert after my probation period is over  QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 11 2013, 02:09 PM) I did not graduate from an Australian university. I have a local degree in IT, majoring in Software Engineering. Since different universities may have different tiers, will that be an advantage if I graduated from a top-tier university in Malaysia? May I know how long it will take to process a PR, provided that I have all the necessary requirements? Not to say impossible but ACS(skill assessment for computing) just announced they will reduce 2 and 4 years skilled experience depending on your qualification. Let's say you are holding bachelor degree in IT + 5 years working experience then they will reduce 2 years of your experience which mean you only have 3 years which is nothing. This is if you go for: 3. Skills Assessment 4. Recognition Letter 5. Recognition of Prior Learning – (RPL) All people from offshore that just received skill assessment(from month of May) result getting 2 or 4 years experience reduced but not sure about onshore. More info here http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_fi...of-Criteria.pdf
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hihihehe
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Jun 11 2013, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 10 2013, 07:58 PM) Thanks for the reply. Is the validity period still stuck at 2 years? I was hoping to work for around a year or so before starting to look for jobs in Australia. Do you think one year experience is sufficient? I am currently a project coordinator in IT Infrastructure. Was thinking of getting a CCNA cert after my probation period is over  Also, DIAC has extended the IELTS validity period to 3 years even though official IELTS is just 2 years. Just search for the keyword in the link below http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1131.pdf
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supercolossal
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Jun 11 2013, 08:58 PM
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Calculate your possible points first, and see if you can make 60. Look for state sponsorship for that particular job code you nominated to make sure it can reach 60.
That said, even if you do not have sufficient work experience you still need to ACS to accredit your qualifications so that you can nominate a job code in the SOL list. I'm not too sure how ACS does the accessing you might need to find out.
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sendomike
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Jun 11 2013, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 11 2013, 08:31 PM) Also, DIAC has extended the IELTS validity period to 3 years even though official IELTS is just 2 years. Just search for the keyword in the link below http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1131.pdfQUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 11 2013, 09:58 PM) Calculate your possible points first, and see if you can make 60. Look for state sponsorship for that particular job code you nominated to make sure it can reach 60. That said, even if you do not have sufficient work experience you still need to ACS to accredit your qualifications so that you can nominate a job code in the SOL list. I'm not too sure how ACS does the accessing you might need to find out. Hi hihihehe and supercolossal, Thank you so much for the advice. I am currently reading up on the migration process using the links that you guys provided
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sendomike
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Jun 11 2013, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 11 2013, 09:58 PM) Calculate your possible points first, and see if you can make 60. Look for state sponsorship for that particular job code you nominated to make sure it can reach 60. That said, even if you do not have sufficient work experience you still need to ACS to accredit your qualifications so that you can nominate a job code in the SOL list. I'm not too sure how ACS does the accessing you might need to find out. I have read up on the nominated jobs, but I have no idea how it works. Do I need to get the state's approval or something? Can someone enlighten me on how this concept works?
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hihihehe
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Jun 11 2013, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 11 2013, 11:29 PM) I have read up on the nominated jobs, but I have no idea how it works. Do I need to get the state's approval or something? Can someone enlighten me on how this concept works? Are you looking for State Nomination/Sponsorship? If so, then you must get at least 55 points(excluding the 5 points from state sponsorship) and send the expression for state nomination to the state that you want get into. Read through the list of occupation available from each state(every states have different occupation that can be nominated). You also must meet the criteria such as English level and working experience although some states don't need it. Once you get nominated from the state then you will receive 5 points which total of 60 points and can lodge EOI In short: 1. Must have at least 55 points to send you expression of interest to the state to get another 5 points 2. You need to wait on the queue just like EOI in SkillSelect 3. Once invited then you can lodge for EOI in SKillSelect 4. Again if invited then can go for PR application
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