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holybo
post Aug 25 2011, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 25 2011, 12:18 AM)
You buy today, means buying yesterday closing price.
You buy tomorrow, means buying today closing price
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post Aug 25 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 24 2011, 10:43 PM)
PBond, PBIBF 3 years annualised return is better than ASB.
PBFI's 3 years annualised return also surpassing ASW, ASM, AS1M. Those who are not able to invest in PNB's fixed price fund, may take this as an alternative.


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Sources: Morningstar.com
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I thought Public Islamic Bond Fund is already closed?
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post Aug 25 2011, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 25 2011, 04:06 PM)
I thought Public Islamic Bond Fund is already closed?
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yaya it's closed, he's just showing you the potential of good bonds' return
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QUOTE(holybo @ Aug 24 2011, 10:29 PM)
Just want to ask a question, the fund price we always look at the internet is yesterday price, if we buy today, which price do we buy, today (which havent announce) or yesterday?
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QUOTE(lytros @ Aug 25 2011, 12:14 AM)
If you buy today, the price is today's price. (which is announced on the next working day)
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 25 2011, 12:18 AM)
You buy today, means buying yesterday closing price.
You buy tomorrow, means buying today closing price
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It seem to me that the answer for this question is contradict (or my understanding just wrong)

From my experience top up a bit the couple of weeks, I need to agree with lytros answer.
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post Aug 25 2011, 04:51 PM

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How to know which PUBLIC Bond OR PUBLIC EQUITY FUND is still OPEN ?


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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 25 2011, 04:51 PM)
How to know which PUBLIC  Bond   OR PUBLIC EQUITY FUND is still OPEN ?
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it is published in the public mutual website, under "news and updates"


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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 25 2011, 04:24 PM)
yaya it's closed, he's just showing you the potential of good bonds' return
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thanks for the explanation. Besides the funds that closed. The next best fund that still open with track record is PBFIxed income fund. The portfolios are quite healthy


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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 25 2011, 06:48 AM)
Then your other option is to get chummy with an agent and negotiate tongue.gif - like offer to DIY most of the stuff, and have some er.. cheaper charges personally from your agent lor

It's a biz to the agent - in biz, anythings negotiable as long as there's win-win situation, right or right?  brows.gif

BTW, U'd be surprise that U may not need to convince anyone.
As U do it and see results and share your methodologies as U care & want your close friends/relatives to prosper as well, U will somehow get "offers". I'm a typical nerd / IT guy lar - not marketing/sales fler. Just do it right and share not for $ but as an option to enable your close friends/relatives to build something for their/their loved ones' future.

The ONLY hiccup is that some may not be able to "handle" the losses when a downturn happens (not IF but WHEN it happens). Thus, education & expectations management required by drawing out agreed investment programs/approaches and followed.
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Kinda should try first, could have a good result.
Strong encouragement there...
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Aug 25 2011, 04:36 PM)
It seem to me that the answer for this question is contradict (or my understanding just wrong)

From my experience top up a bit the couple of weeks, I need to agree with lytros answer.
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Heheh - bro Lytros is spot on: "If you buy today, the price is today's price. (which is announced on the next working day)"
It's always based on the EOD (End Of Day) price of the transaction date, as long as one transacts BEFORE or BY 4pm (specific time - anyone?)
EOD price is shown the next day (for local focused funds) or next 2 to 3 days (for foreign focused funds).

Bro BoneScythe - still smoking Aji ar tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2011, 10:23 PM

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Resolutions Passed at the Unitholders’ Meetings of Public Global Balanced
Fund, Public Islamic Asia Balanced Fund and Public Islamic Balanced Fund
___________________________________________________________________

Unitholders voted to pass the proposed Resolutions to modify the investment
objective, investment policy, investment strategy, benchmark and fund name of
Public Global Balanced Fund (PGBF), Public Islamic Asia Balanced Fund (PIABF)
and Public Islamic Balanced Fund (PIBF) in three separate unitholders' meetings
held on 24 August 2011 at 16th Floor, Bangunan Public Bank.

The Manager will proceed to register the Supplemental Deed and respective
Supplemental Prospectuses to effect the changes. Upon registration of the
Supplemental Deed and Supplemental Prospectuses, PGBF will be renamed as
Public Tactical Allocation Fund; PIABF will become Public Islamic Asia Tactical
Allocation Fund and PIBF will become Public Islamic Mixed Asset Fund
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Public Tactical Allocation Fund, Public Islamic Asia Tactical Allocation Fund and
Public Islamic Mixed Asset Fund will be open for cash sales sometime in October
2011.

Meanwhile, the Manager will waive all switching fees for switching transactions out
of PGBF, PIABF and PIBF for the period commencing from 25 August 2011 till 30
September 2011.

For further enquiries, please call our Customer Service Hotline at 03-6207 5000

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...Zwk%3d&tabid=87
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Early Cut-Off time on Monday, 29 August 2011
___________________________________________________________________

In conjunction with Hari Raya Aidil Fitri and National Day holidays, Bursa
Malaysia has declared that trading on Bursa Securities will be opened for the
morning session only on Monday, 29 August 2011.

Accordingly, please be advised that our cut-off time for submissions of sales,
switching and redemptions of units on 29 August 2011 is at 12:30 p.m.
Transactions made after 12.30pm on 29 August 2011 will be processed based on
the closing price of the next business day.

Please also be informed that our customer service centers and branch offices will
be closed for business in the afternoon on 29 August 2011.
For further enquiries, please call our Customer Service Hotline at 03-6207 5000

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...l3Y%3d&tabid=87
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:58 PM

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Hi all,

When a fund is closed, we can't buy the fund anymore (till it open again), but we can sell/switch them, right? Unlike the stock market... stock 'suspend', cannot trade/buy/sell. Am I right?

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Aug 25 2011, 11:58 PM)
Hi all,

When a fund is closed, we can't buy the fund anymore (till it open again), but we can sell/switch them, right? Unlike the stock market... stock 'suspend', cannot trade/buy/sell. Am I right?

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yes, can sell cannot buy
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 26 2011, 12:01 AM)
yes, can sell cannot buy
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if someone sells does that mean i can buy even if the fund is closed?
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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 26 2011, 01:43 AM)
if someone sells does that mean i can buy even if the fund is closed?
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If the fund is closed, means you cannot buy anymore, unless u sign the direct debit b4 the fund closed.
ASW/AS1M is different, they are fully subsribed not closed, fully subsribed means when someone sell, and have available unit then u can buy
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 26 2011, 02:09 AM)
If the fund is closed, means you cannot buy anymore, unless u sign the direct debit b4 the fund closed.
ASW/AS1M is different, they are fully subsribed not closed, fully subsribed means when someone sell, and have available unit then u can buy
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Hehheh - just to share a fluke finding:
i stupidly kept buying PSMALLCAP via PBank's ONLINE Investment menu AFTER it closed last year.
Managed to get several months' transactions done
THEN suddenly bounce (ie. PBank online went through but several days later got reversal)
then and only then i found out PSMALLCAP was "closed" since a few months ago

Bottomline - until PB & PM online transaction systems' validations are tightened-up, U may try your luck tongue.gif
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post Aug 26 2011, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 26 2011, 08:09 AM)
Hehheh - just to share a fluke finding:
i stupidly kept buying PSMALLCAP via PBank's ONLINE Investment menu AFTER it closed last year.
Managed to get several months' transactions done
THEN suddenly bounce (ie. PBank online went through but several days later got reversal)
then and only then i found out PSMALLCAP was "closed" since a few months ago

Bottomline - until PB & PM online transaction systems' validations are tightened-up, U may try your luck tongue.gif
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But i thought if using DDI, can kept buying the fund eventhought it's closed already? Or my PM consultant lie to me?

Btw, can all the PM funds be bought using DDI? Coz i saw some fund like PISEF don't allowed for regular investment... Regular investment = DDI, rite?

Which aggresive PM fund is recommended beside P SMALLCAP for long term capital growth?
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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 26 2011, 08:36 AM)
But i thought if using DDI, can kept buying the fund eventhought it's closed already? Or my PM consultant lie to me?

Btw, can all the PM funds be bought using DDI? Coz i saw some fund like PISEF don't allowed for regular investment... Regular investment = DDI, rite?

Which aggresive PM fund is recommended beside P SMALLCAP for long term capital growth?
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I'm NOT doing DDI lar bro.
DDI amount CAN go through even though "closed"

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 26 2011, 08:36 AM)
But i thought if using DDI, can kept buying the fund eventhought it's closed already? Or my PM consultant lie to me?

Btw, can all the PM funds be bought using DDI? Coz i saw some fund like PISEF don't allowed for regular investment... Regular investment = DDI, rite?

Which aggresive PM fund is recommended beside P SMALLCAP for long term capital growth?
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the fund will closed with some units allocates for DDI for existing investors. so, u stil can do DDI since units available for DDI.
if all the units subcribed, so, DDI also will X.


PISEF don't allowed for regular investment...no such thing. who told u?

capital growth fund - those fund has investment objective on capital growht in long term. PAGF, PEF, PIOF, PISEF,......... u can refer to prospectus for those funds............
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 26 2011, 09:21 AM)
the fund will closed with some units allocates for DDI for existing investors. so, u stil can do DDI since units available for DDI.
if all the units subcribed, so, DDI also will X.
PISEF don't allowed for regular investment...no such thing. who told u?

capital growth fund - those fund has investment objective on capital growht in long term. PAGF, PEF, PIOF, PISEF,......... u can refer to prospectus for those funds............
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from the link below
LINK Try too select PISEF in the comparison...

How about PISSF & P SMALLCAP? Performance not as good with the funds that u mentioned above?

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 26 2011, 12:04 PM)
from the link below
LINK Try too select PISEF in the comparison...

How about PISSF & P SMALLCAP? Performance not as good with the funds that u mentioned above?
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PISEF said N/A = not applicabe.

it not says NO.

still can do DDI with min rm100.

its better u compare where the funds has same time frame. also need to take concideration on asset allocations/sectors (locals & foregin.)

diff asset allocations/sectors will result diff performance over the time.

if fund A and Fund B has same objective, same asset allocations/sectors, same time frame. u can c whive one is better.

if A and B diff, so the performace also diff. maybe A perform beter 3yrs back and B performing better now. its depends. n cannot confirm.

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