wow and u pass your biology with flying color and now a respectable brain surgeon

Pass with flying colors and was offered scholarship to do MBBS but decided to study engineering because MBBS is not really my cup of tea and I am a haemophobic.

Yes, i agree it does happen in real life, but in every lottery draw, there is always got one guy struke the first prize too. So, like i said, a seriuos and stern coach may chunk out good result but that is not always true. Especially nowadays, youngster is not raised up in the strict manner like the old days. So, if any stern and seriuos way is practise on them, you will get rebels. So, the old way which may be the effective way, but it wont work now. So, another or different approach may be needed.

There are lots of argument on Gen-X and Gen-Y, but who produce this Gen-Y?? It is Gen-X who produce all this Gen-Y. REally cannot understand ..

My dept got a Dreamer type of guy (in terms of delivery of information and wanting to teach others). Experienced and well educated engineer who knocks around RM 20k+ a month (my own estimate). He is now Iceboxed and avoided by people around him- now just waiting for retirement in a few months time.

He would thrived well in a Malaysian educated or ol'skool of hard knocks or cinapek working environment; too bad its really matsalleh here (Debbie type mindset somewhat) and the Msians in the dept are more of Debbie's type of mindset.

Imagine this: Dreamer finds a Debbie subordinate- he gives her low rating and maybe less to no chance of promotion. Debbie finds a Dreamer subordinate- she gives him a low rating or maybe less to no chance of promotion.

See where I am coming from? Just saying there is no right or no wrong in life- is who has the big gun is the king. Or the most gun wins- aka majority.

This post has been edited by kaiserwulf: Aug 18 2011, 02:22 PM

Yeah..my point is if you have to be selective of who is teaching instead of what is being taught, then you might not learn anything..

and i thought GUN is illegal in Malaysia, now need to have Big Gun and Most Gun hhaha
ok ok just joking AKA not serious ok

Dreamer, please continue ...

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Added on August 18, 2011, 2:31 pmyour pointed noted

This post has been edited by ivanswk: Aug 18 2011, 02:31 PM

Sometimes, you cannot judge someone by his apperance. You can choose a comedian instead of an authoritarian to teach you. It doesnt mean that the comedian will lose out in what he is going to teach. IF there is a person who is very famous and comes with high credential but he is not seriuos manner he treating people compare with someone who is very serious but may not know anything about his credentials, so, who you going to choose? Like in movie, those not famous but very seriuos coach is coaching a not famous school team and eventually win a champion. But how many in real life???

i are the lost, i thought we talking the how to career / business so rich? by not average like everyone else?

i read more and more after that i dont know. please told the me what's said here?

i want to learned so i can higher me self but like your people not saying as like title. i always the fail cause from the poor families, hope your guys can assist me as i no want poor future.

being crony overrules everything logic.

nice words....
one person luck in exchange of one person misfortune

Folks,

<<She IS successful in getting to her goal. >>

YOU are NOT listening and reading very well. Do a search on all her posts. Then, ask yourself a SIMPLE question, is this a person that is achieving her goal?? In her own judgment, she had failed. And, she is NOT HAPPY.

Now, if a person had failed in her own career but has the AUDACITY to tell people how to do their job, teach, manage some others, we call that kind of people STUPID!!

That is LEVEL 0 person. People that are TOO STUPID to know that they know NOTHING.

There is NO ARGUMENT here.

She knows NOTHING. She is saying that YOU hurt my feeling and hence you must be WRONG. Whatever you say is IRRELEVANT. What are the USEFUL content in any of her posts?? None.

She provides a VERY EDUCATIONAL example of how NOT to be fooled by people that PRETEND to know something.

Dreamer

the topic has been derailed from being over the average people to a teaching method..wether it is a pull or push teaching method,,im willing to learn..being over the average people can coop with whatever circumtance..so please get back to the main topic please..

alaskanbunny,

<< i always the fail cause from the poor families>>

My father passed away when I was 8 years old. My mother had to raise 6 children on her own. 1/3 of my classmates lost their father before standard 6. Average life expectancy of Urban Chinese Males was 55 years old. Most people in my community were poor and starving. Now, they are doing very well.

Dreamer

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Added on August 18, 2011, 7:25 pmTigerr,

In order for someone to TEACH, a person needs to know the material. Will you asked someone that is lousy in English to teach you English?? That is common sense.

Only after you KNOW that the person know his / her stuff, then, we can talk about teaching method.

A person that knows NOTHING cannot teach you ANYTHING. Regardless of how nice the person is. It is a WASTE of TIME and ENERGY to learn from that person. YOU will learn NOTHING.

So, the QUESTION is how to SPOT people that KNOW NOTHING in order to STOP wasting time listening to that kind of person??

For example, WHY would anyone taking lesson from people on how to manage people when the person has NEVER manage anyone?? The person KNOW NOTHING about managing people..

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 18 2011, 07:25 PM

personally i think success is a subjective matter. Everyone holds different definition but similar objective-to be successful. I have failed(5 years) in something which i have interest and good at. The reason i failed was simply because i had mixed my 'wants' and 'needs'. Now im back on track and pursuing what i love the most which i had failed in 5 years ago. Hard work do make a huge difference.
p/s:informative thread btw.

Dreamer & debbie..both of u must declare truce..

figuremeout,

personally i think success is a subjective matter.

Bingo. You got IT.

The MOST IMPORTANT person is YOU. Aka, YOUR own POV of what is successful to YOU. Why?? Because that is RELEVANT to YOU. Anyone else's POV is IRRELEVANT.

Plus, a person cannot be HAPPY by trying to satisfy OTHER PEOPLE's POV and GOAL. YOU will be living their lives and their goal.

YOU need to live your own life. Not anyone's else life.

Dreamer

So that makes your thread topic contradictory, and actually out of topic.

If the way you want to live your life is to be average, why worry about whether you are rich or not, and what other people think?

I like that
Always like ur lecture! Few months back with your advice, I go all out of what I really want and love. After stages and stages, I am almost there to start.. Thank you. Your lectures work for me, always.

Dreamer,

1 question: what if i am not sure where my interests is? I dont know what am i excellent at. Am i born to be average? since secondary school, i found out i can be good at anything as long as i put effort. so actually after that i believe that interest can be build. "as long as u are good at something, u will have interest in it" this is what i believe.

but i do agree with you that passionate in ur career will bring you to above average in that career. what if a person like me, i dont really have passionate in anything. I just learn, when i am good at it, i will build my interest, am i born to be average in that case?

here's a book that i would recommend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Hab...ffective_People

unless you are born with a golden spoon......

to be successful in life, you need to be a good observer of life........because that's the best teacher.....