ok i get the ball rolling,
i know other member will pick A (firewall ON)
I go with the answer C

Majority of the people will talk to choose C.
Example, put this question in the job interview test and I believe there are 90% confidence level that interviewee will choose C.


This post has been edited by arthurlwf: Aug 31 2011, 12:06 PM

I have already done that but no luck, is there any book on luck? My average savings is 2.5k a year in the past 10 years and I spent it all in hardware & software, just Photoshop alone cost 2.6k, the rest went through upgrade in conjunction with my improvement and their continuous development. In the process, I created Malaysia's first and last 3D children's story book.
If anyone wish to reach my level, you cannot have a life, spent all your time after work practice and learn. In the past, there are English TV series at night that I learn my English from but not any more, they trashed them all, now you must pay Astro one year to view half year program because the other half is repeats.

From analogue to digital, I wasted 22 years of my life, yes I have made great improvement but now sell household electrical products cum all in one artist, that is the niche no other salesman is as useful as me, damn proud. I thought everyone agree that computer is the way of the future back then especially Malaysia got MSC and saw a special TV ad that says "Malaysia welcome Microsoft" when Bill gates invest into this country. I also heard Najib announce 1.5k 3D related jobs a few years ago, oh, sorry, that one went to Singapore, sigh.

I thought I don't have good luck but this country too suffer the same fate, many production house too have close in the past few years and artists are retrenched, the world too got no luck but come to think of it, Art & Design is just a job and no career in it. That is why former artists open art colleges instead.

So obvious, A & B must be minority, not average choice.

u and the country need a good feng shui master eh.. so does najib

I'll go with C. Does that mean I'm an "Average" ?

Only the ecological part of Feng Shui is science but the rest are nonsense, such nonsense made into rules and practiced by believers. I say everyone are born dumb and it is living experience that made us smart but some choose to stop learning because efforts is greater than reward. Insurance is invented to provide a sense of security when bad luck strikes and people can live with false sense of security alone.

If you can only save RM1 a day, don't take chances that can risk losing your life savings, past generation did that and some of them leave behind land and property as stepping stone to their children, I have a friend who don't need to buy a house but the majority spend a lifetime paying mortgage, another one had to repurchase his house after a divorce wasted half of the money to his ex wife, he paid off the mortgage fast but ended up wasting even more.

There are plenty of people who don't need coaching to go the extra miles, I can predict a few whiners will come back to this thread in a few years and say thank you, by then "dreamer101" book should be ready. I think I should start writing as I execute strategy too and come open a topic of how everyone can do what I did in any business.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Aug 31 2011, 04:41 PM

Hi 3dasset, maybe can you put your past behind? I'm sure you have the gained the level of experience to start again, hence you are better off now than you were 22 years ago. I'm 48 and I don't think "I'm too late". Also I want to proof that Dreamer101 is "wrong". I shall try very hard and become rich, then I'll see what Dreamer101 has to say about being too late after 40.

Dreamer101, let's carry on.

@ 3dassets

>> Average people is more than risk takers, young graduates whine not getting jobs or under paid is because they and their parents expect better after many years of investment, tuition fees and efforts to get multi "A"s as publicized every year. Soon, their proud faces are hampered by low value job and no career advancement condition.

◘ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg4fAZ914sY...nel_video_title

You get paid what your labour is worth. If you decide to become a biologist because it pays 100,000 per year... but by the time you graduate you learn 1,000,000 other people have also graduated as biologist, a few things can happen. You can choose 1, more than one, all, or any combination.

1. You can get used to being paid less because 999,999 other people can do your job.

2. You can differentiate yourself in terms of value to your employer. There's dozens of ways you can do this.

3. You can increase your skill knowledge even further in your field of choice to surpass the other 999,999 idiots who decided to chase down the same road with you.

4. You can move to an area or location where there ISN'T as many of those idiots

5. You can try to get ahead by establishing business contacts and networking alongside your skills.

6. You can change careers.

7. You can simply work at it for a while, accept less pay to start, but find out what the marketing needs are at your company, accept additional job responsibilities, and "climb the corporate ladder".

8. You can work an additional job or have some work "on the side".

9. You can work freelance and build your value to individual customers / companies / consumers to earn more than what you'd get on a basic salary.

10. You can post on LowYat how it's not fair and taking risk doesn't matter.

Just a few options I came up with on the spot.

>> the qualification is part of the risk too if can't benefit from it.

◘ Correct. Earning a degree is generally regarded as LESS risky, but there's still risk to everything we do. With risk comes a chance of reward, and even if nothing else, you LEARN, develop, and grow as a person from having taken the risk, even if you dont win the first time you try.

This is why we encourage people to hang in there, be tough, be strong, stay at it, dont give up. The road is long, and the race doesn't always go to the fastest. It often goes to the one who fell down, got back up, and kept running. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM5A1K6TxxM - forward to 1:15 for the defining moment that separates all winners from losers.

Keep taking risk - be smart, be calculative, be wise, dont trust every Tom d*** and Harry who comes by promising you a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Be frugal, watch what you spend, take care of your money, plan around your budget. Not all that glitters is gold.

You learn all these lessons first hand from TRYING. If you wanna learn to ride, you gotta learn to fall. The path to success is paved with failure. If you need to go somewhere and cry about it, then cry. That's a normal human reaction when you're hurt, when things dont work out the way you want. But crying and whining are two different things. One is a response to being hurt, the other is what you do in place of trying, because whining is easier than trying. But you dont grow that way.

No matter how, if you TRY, it's a win-win situation. You either succeed, or you become stronger, sharper, and smarter from having failed.

>> why middle income is sliding into the poor? Because The rich created low wage value.

◘ Sorry, but that's not how it works. Watch the first video I posted. If your wage is too low, workers leave. If your employees work more and earn more, then you keep the money, they'll leave then too. And without workers and the talents they bring, your company fails. The free market regulates itself this way.

And also, what do you mean by "poor"?

I love this word when it comes from Malaysians. I've been homeless in this country before - still am technically. I slept under a freeway for a while because I had nowhere to go, I have no family, and no one would help me (after all, I'm white... so I MUST be rich.) I would take 2 pieces of chicken from Carrefour and try to make it last all day by taking a bite every few hours. I'd get into town by jogging if I had to. I'd ask for money so I could go online and apply for jobs, or try to get business through my blog. I'd let a friend use my motorcycle for a while so in return he'd fill it with petrol.

People just cannot get their heads around this. When I say something like "I dont have money", they really. Just. Can. Not. Get it. "I dont have money" from me, because I'm white, means "Ahhhh gee... I wont be able to afford 20 hookers this month. Looks like I'll have to settle for 12, and eat less caviar". It's either that or "Oh dash it, now I shall have to use my MASTER CARD to make payments on my Aston Martin this week!"

When you talk about "being poor", tell me, you still have Astro, right? I mean f*** Astro you've got electricity in your house. Aw hell nevermind - YOU GOT A HOUSE!!! Damn I bet you had breakfast this morning too, and you'll have lunch and dinner before today's over. Wtf do you mean poor??? I see a kid playing X-box talking about how he has money problems. And it's ironic to see them whine about it and give up, while I typically just grit my teeth and keep going.

I think if you can eat, and you can afford shoes on your feet, your definition of "poor" needs adjusting.

>> I lost two rounds, 10 years with conventional art material, another 12 years in full computerized work flow, I was 31, wasn't too late back then and computer is expected to be apart of our lives sooner or later, guess it didn't prosper because Malaysian are slow to catch up with computerize business but smart phone gadgets.

◘ It's never too late! Get up and KEEP TRYING!!!



>> dreamer101 said I made a crucial mistake to remain in this doom country in one of his 5 rules, if only I can speak proper English and buy a one way ticket to the USA and manage to pass their immigration, then work illegally.

◘ I'm from America.

rar!

>> How many things can one cater in a few hours personal time a day?

◘ http://smilepls.com/success-story-of-colon...anders-aka-kfc/ - how bout getting 1,009 rejections by the time you're 65?

http://entrepreneurialblogshots.7dayshooto...trepreneurship/

From the link:

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During his early years, Harland worked different odd jobs such as farm-hand, streetcar conductor, soldier, fireman, self-taught lawyer, insurance salesman, and steamboat operator.
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Take THAT, career change!!!

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Added on August 31, 2011, 5:50 pmI'm gonna let Courage Wolf answer most of these.

Because there's basically just 2 ways to do this.

@ 3dassets

>> I have already done that but no luck

Then keep trying.

>> If anyone wish to reach my level, you cannot have a life, spent all your time after work practice and learn.

You must be at level 90 by now. Kick ass!

>> In the past, there are English TV series at night that I learn my English from but not any more, they trashed them all, now you must pay Astro one year to view half year program because the other half is repeats.

Doesn't that just suck?

>> I also heard Najib announce 1.5k 3D related jobs a few years ago, oh, sorry, that one went to Singapore, sigh.

Uncle Sam, can you handle this one?

>> I thought I don't have good luck but this country too suffer the same fate, many production house too have close in the past few years and artists are retrenched, the world too got no luck but come to think of it, Art & Design is just a job and no career in it.

◘ If you're surrounded by shadows, it's because YOU are the light.

>> Insurance is invented to provide a sense of security when bad luck strikes and people can live with false sense of security alone.

◘ Putting money away for a rainy day is not a false sense of anything. It's real security. It's what you rely on in case of emergencies.

Come on you're downing insurance now? I think you're reallyyyyyyy in a low mood right now.

This post has been edited by Kasey Brown: Aug 31 2011, 05:50 PM

iam poor, but i never slept under a freeway, u uppercut me there

This post has been edited by ivanswk: Aug 31 2011, 05:58 PM

I am not going to type a long page of comment. 1 sentence, I support and agree with dreamer.

Dreamer, Kasey, Brian... a few more and we'll start our own Justice League of LowYat.

This post has been edited by Kasey Brown: Aug 31 2011, 06:39 PM

Does the sentence sound like downing insurance? People who don't have insurance can live under false hope.

http://smilepls.com/success-story-of-colon...anders-aka-kfc/ - how bout getting 1,009 rejections by the time you're 65
Even if I am guaranteed to succeed at 65, I pass. I have explored my potential and made a difference in ability, I did that to have a better life by age not die famous when old, ask the Prime Minister what is poor in the city, salary below RM3k.

dreamer101 say its too late if over 40 because chances is low and money cannot buy the life what was lost, hence midlife crisis. 40 to 50 can only salvage because even if were to achieve something after 50, there is nothing to look forward in life anymore. I spent all my savings to remain in the business, 2k to 2.5k is not poor but cannot afford anything else when the money are spent on hardware and software, my mother pay for the down-payment of my low cost flat, I only signed up for Astro this year and expect to terminate after 12 months even my broadband service and go online in the shop.

I never said I am poor, you just echo the same encouraging words on everyone, why need to defend dreamer101 with age old MLM archive?

>> dreamer101 say its too late if over 40

◘ Well then DREAMER WAS WRONG! Goddam he's not infallible. Plus he may have been thinking of something different when he said that. I dont know, wasn't here during that discussion.

>> even if were to achieve something after 50, there is nothing to look forward in life anymore.

◘ When I come back, I'll post images of the 80 year olds doing 1 arm push ups and still dating around. I'll also post the study where age was actually reversed just by getting the subjects to "think" younger.

Cant do anything after 50... complete nonsense.

Folks,

Is answer C = the MAJORITY??

Look back at this thread, how many people shown up and based on their post, you can see that they are (A) and (B). They are just TOO EMBARRASSED to post on this thread anymore.

If your answer is C, DO NOT WHINE!!!

Dreamer

@Dreamer101
No point questioning the people in forums. Most people are keyboard warriors here.

perhaps to dreamer >40 yo, it is too late.

IMO, age shouldnt be a limit, if you want to do it you can do it regardless of your age

so, just let this 'age' argument go...

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currently doing my final year in chemical engineering with half a year to go before I enter the working world, interesting thread with useful points especially from dreamer, kasey, debbie.

I totally agree that ones mindset is important, how do you tell whether one is average or not I've no idea

This is a great post.

I agree, it is for one to be contented with what they are having now; as compared to whining about what they can't be having in life (yet?).

A person who is more demanding, with a higher expectation, as well as greedy; these people will "typically/characteristically" end up being more miserable, disappointed, & dissatisfied with/in life as well (they may also end up committing suicide!!)... [When these people finally do get what they wanted; then the same cycle will repeat itself once again; they will get increasingly more & more demanding + dissatisfied with what they have, and then desire for even more...]

In addition;

- Better is happiness & satisfaction in a humble setting (with freedom & a peaceful state of mind), then richness but misery in a lavish/opulent setting containing strive & division (+ insecurity & restrictions)...

Regards.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Aug 31 2011, 10:31 PM

[quote=dreamer101,Aug 30 2011, 04:13 AM]
they are dam rich...d poor can AFFORD to be generous...isnt it an unfair comparison

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pUpUnOOb,

That is a bunch of BS.

There are poor people out there that are GENEROUS too.

Generosity has nothing to do with how rich a person is.

Dreamer

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i know it has nothing to do with how rich a person is...but comparing a generous rich person to a non generous poor person is unfair isnt it? rich ppl dun feel the pinch of letting go a few bucks here and there

Words is all there is in a forum, every word is accountable otherwise no difference like bad politician who utter nonsense and forget. Go back and read, if not deleted.
You don't have to tell nonsense to be the example, come back when you are 80, don't have to make a fool of yourself.

Why the last few posts are here to boost without opinion? More of such stupid post will only do the opposite.
I am not whining about the past but in order to move forward, I have to find out what went wrong and human factor is the main flaw. I then see the pattern and similarities in manners that has great influence in their business conduct, my biggest mistake is relying on the good deeds of humanity, it is unreliable.

@pupunoob
U have quite a narrow minded approach there. Generosity is not measured solely based on MONEY. It could be based on time and effort contributed as well.