malaysian economy is still good compared with thailand,vietnam,. and indonesia.
what I can't believe salary here too small although we have only 32 mio people

realventis,

A) Bingo!! And, they were rice farmers. And, they learned the business through tried and error.

B) How many people went before me want the same thing but REFUSE to do the work and fight the university??

Materazzi,

They were Poor Rice Farmers. They REFUSE to stay as Poor Rice Farmer. Hence, they tried their hands in many things. And, they did not succeed at first.

Conversely, in Malaysia, how many people stay as Poor Rice Farmer and DID NOTHING to improve themselves??

It is the MENTALITY and ATTITUDE!!

<warren buffett said if he is born before 1930 he will be a farmer>>

He still will be an ABOVE AVERAGE farmer.

keyibukeyi,

If you CANNOT take care of yourself, how can you help OTHERS??

Bill Gate and Warren Buffet donate out 90+% of their assets. Are they selfish??

They are MORE GENEROUS than most Poor People.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 28 2011, 07:26 PM

No, the only reason why I am still alive is I don't know but when some one claimed to be rich and say you are too old and too late then went on to say be persistent even though die fighting, I really don't understand, he refuse to answer my questions.

waxppl,

I am LUCKY?? Do you want my kind of LUCK??

I lost my father when I was 8 years old. My mother had to raise 6 children on her own. We starved regularly through childhood. To be AVERAGE in Poverty meant that you DO NOT SURVIVE.. We refuse to stay poor and starving.

Then, we were faced with NEP. Many people were forced out of their jobs and businesses. My batch were forced to go oversea and compete with foreigner to get college education. So, I had to work 2 part-time jobs and take 20 semester hours per semester. I slept on the average of 4 hours per day for 6 years.

You call this LUCK?? Is this LUCK?? Do you want my kind of LUCK??

Do not insult me!!

Dreamer

Hey, dont get me wrong here. I wasn't trying to insult you. I am not that kind of person that like to insult people out of no where. What i was trying to say is different person with different background/ life experience will have different thoughts. And no offense i was thinking ur life experience is somehow a kind of "luck" (if you don't like this word, maybe we can use "fate") that indirectly brings you to be someone with above average thought since young.

What i meant by different thoughts here is the amount of LUCK different people see in it. hence i was using you as an example. I believe you are an aggressive person that always chase after what you want with plans. You EXECUTE your plan thus you think the amount of LUCK that helps in ur success is minimum. This is what you kind of people think.

Another kind of people are where their life goes smooth just as what they want. They THINK they don't have to really put in 100% effort to earn what they want. Things just turns out right on the right time. Thus they think LUCK/ fate plays quite an important role in their life.

If you still feel insulted, I apologize. It wasn't intentional.

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waxppl,

1) IMHO, those kind of people most likely WILL NOT SURVIVE....

Only changes are ETERNAL. Environment can turn favorable or hostile. It is constantly changing. Throughout life, there will be sunny days and rainy days. People that can only live on sunny day most likely will not survive.

<<Thus they think LUCK/ fate plays quite an important role in their life.>>

2) Those kind of people are CLUELESS. Even LUCK and FATE is in your favor, a person still need to prepare and know how to manage that. As I had said before, 50% of the USA lottery winner went bankrupt after 10 years.

3) In my case, I had studied and planned out the steps that I need to do if I won a lottery. Did you do that when you buy a lottery ticket?? Are you prepared if you won??

It is the ATTITUDE and MENTALITY.

FATE and LUCK may or may not favor a person like me. But, I am PREPARED to take advantage of any opportunities. Can you say this about most AVERAGE PEOPLE?? They talk about winning lottery but do they know what they need to do if they won?? Plus, what they SHOULD NOT do??

Dreamer

I know a few of such people, all of the inherited family business namely hardware, pork and household electrical shop, also insurance money. The foundations laid by their parents in the early days, all they need to do is continue the operation and go through some tough times but at least don't have to start from zero.

It makes all the difference and there is a saying; merry to loaded family and you save 10 years of hardships, of course they may loose everything if mismanage, the best practice is be less aggressive or stingy to preserve the fortune / luck and it is their fate to be born in such family. Often those who build from scratch and achieve some success will claim no such thing as luck or fate.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Aug 29 2011, 12:03 AM

As long as you have a healthy body and decent IQ, count yourself lucky. Most of the older generation come from poor family. They have to work long hours and food is not abundant. Look at all the interviews with all the billionaires, most will talk about their hardships during younger days. To me, as long as one is physically fit, there is no hardships. Human beings can endure all kinds of things. My respect only goes to those who are physically challenged or has debilitating illness and still managed to survive and fluorish. What so hard about working 2 jobs and sleeping 4 hours a day? To those physically handicapped, they would LOVE to have a healthy body to be able to work 2 jobs and sleep even 2 hours.

My point is, count yourself lucky to be physically fit and healthy and also has above average financial IQ. Without these 2 things, it is very hard for you to achieve what you want. I am of the view that some are are more mentally endowed compared to others, just like some are physically more healthy than others. It is in their genes. The mental gift or lacking thereof is harder to notice. If you are not born with an intellectual mind, it is harder to come out ahead financially. Not everybody can see things so clearly at a young age. Do not blame those who failed to see it. It is not their fault. It is in their genes. For those who come to this board to read this topic, you are not one of those. You are capable of improving simply because visiting this forum is a sign of your awareness in this respect.

The mom strived to be the best in raising her kids. She is not keen nor content in mediocre average life, but to be the best mother to her 2 kids, thus she sacrifice her career to be at home to give unconditional love to her kids. Thats successful. That is being the best, and thats what Dreamer is saying. You choose to be the best, or just plain average and raising kids the average way. Your choice.

If you look at your story of the mother of 2, moderate living is not good enough. She has to sacrifice her career to give the BEST to her kids.
Is it OK for the mother to say she just put food on the table for kids, give allowance and have them schooled then is ok for moderate living? nevermind if she has no personal time for them? as long as they got food, clothes, shelter and books? No its not!

How were you forced to go overseas, no private colleges in this country?

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Added on August 29, 2011, 12:54 pm

Yes, why is that? there are no billionaires with rich parents all of a sudden?





Very true. He seems to glorify his suffering, but it is nothing compared to someone who was born disabled with poor parents. Not to diminish his
suffering, but he musn't think that other people have not suffered more than him



This post has been edited by wodenus: Aug 29 2011, 12:54 PM

I don't think it's ever "TOO LATE for people who are over 40", I'm 48, I don't think it's too late for me. I'm not going to die yet.

I've finished reading The Science of getting rich.
http://images.thesecret.tv/The-Science-of-Getting-Rich.pdf
and I'm now into
Master Key System
http://images.thesecret.tv/Master-Key-System.pdf

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Added on August 29, 2011, 3:01 pm
QUOTE(rosemary @ Aug 26 2011, 12:18 AM)
I have a dream... My dream is not to do anything but to achieve everything.
Can u help me???
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Man dream of flying since the beginning of time. Now we have AirAsia, where everyone can fly. Why do people shoot off dream like this. I for one think it's possible. I believe every start as a dream. We dream to be rich, we dream to be successful, we dream to be....

Rosemary, keep on dreaming. Your dream might inspire other people, and these people shall set in motion "not to do anything but to achieve everything"

Added on August 29, 2011, 2:09 pm
QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 27 2011, 11:11 PM)
You assume everyone can read Chinese? The topic is circular, such as "dump people are not smart", what is there to debate when rich people determine what is right and wrong. "English is not Chinese"
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My apologies for those who who don't read Chinese ( not to be rude but those who don't can try out http://translate.google.com.my/?client=fir...al&hl=en&tab=wT Google translate).
I guess Dreamer101 and you 3dassets does.

Let's us be rich and we can start to determine what is right and wrong.

Should the title be revised or modify? Like to Ordinary thinking person with ordinary attitude shall have difficulties making it rich.

Added on August 29, 2011, 2:19 pm
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 28 2011, 10:10 PM)
waxppl,



2) Those kind of people are CLUELESS. Even LUCK and FATE is in your favor, a person still need to prepare and know how to manage that. As I had said before, 50% of the USA lottery winner went bankrupt after 10 years.

3) In my case, I had studied and planned out the steps that I need to do if I won a lottery. Did you do that when you buy a lottery ticket?? Are you prepared if you won??

It is the ATTITUDE and MENTALITY.

FATE and LUCK may or may not favor a person like me. But, I am PREPARED to take advantage of any opportunities. Can you say this about most AVERAGE PEOPLE?? They talk about winning lottery but do they know what they need to do if they won?? Plus, what they SHOULD NOT do??

Dreamer
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2) As I had said before, 50% of the USA lottery winner went bankrupt after 10 years.
Hence year 1 to year 10, 100% were rich, Year 11 onward, 50% are still rich. Look at the bright side brother. I for one would mind just being rich from year 1 to year 10, doesn't matter if I'm broke at year 11.

http://www.sportstoto.com.my/g_bigwin/bigwin.asp

3) Dreamer101, do you buy lottery?
I'm below average, and I do buy ToTo ( blush.gif not promoting gambling here).
I bought 1 unit of 4D, 5D, 6D, Toto 6/58, Toto 6/55 & Toto 6/52. My dream is to strike 1st prize for each and every one together in the same day. Talk about being rich. Shall buy a couple of big houses, then a couple of luxurious cars,.........
Added on August 29, 2011, 2:30 pm
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 28 2011, 07:24 PM)
waxppl,

I am LUCKY?? Do you want my kind of LUCK??

I lost my father when I was 8 years old. My mother had to raise 6 children on her own. We starved regularly through childhood. To be AVERAGE in Poverty meant that you DO NOT SURVIVE.. We refuse to stay poor and starving.

Then, we were faced with NEP. Many people were forced out of their jobs and businesses. My batch were forced to go oversea and compete with foreigner to get college education. So, I had to work 2 part-time jobs and take 20 semester hours per semester. I slept on the average of 4 hours per day for 6 years.

You call this LUCK?? Is this LUCK?? Do you want my kind of LUCK??

Do not insult me!!

Dreamer
*


Seems to be very obsessed with the past. Let it go, remember the great times that you had. Be grateful of what you have. Those are good experience that made you a better person. If without those experiences, you may not be where you are today.

I think to the younger generation, they won't want to heard about "rag to riches". It's more relevant "rich to even richer", to stay in tune with time. Honestly, if possible Dreamer101, would you like to put your children through what you had been through?

Added on August 29, 2011, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 29 2011, 12:36 PM)
How were you forced to go overseas, no private colleges in this country?

Added on August 29, 2011, 12:54 pm

Yes, why is that? there are no billionaires with rich parents all of a sudden? smile.gif
Very true. He seems to glorify his suffering, but it is nothing compared to someone who was born disabled with poor parents. Not to diminish his
suffering, but he musn't think that other people have not suffered more than him
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biggrin.gif Everyone suffered at one time or another. I for one do not go "whining" about it. smile.gif

Added on August 29, 2011, 2:42 pm
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 28 2011, 07:13 PM)
realventis,


B) How many people went before me want the same thing but REFUSE to do the work and fight the university??
Materazzi,

They were Poor Rice Farmers. They REFUSE to stay as Poor Rice Farmer. Hence, they tried their hands in many things. And, they did not succeed at first.

Conversely, in Malaysia, how many people stay as Poor Rice Farmer and DID NOTHING to improve themselves??

It is the MENTALITY and ATTITUDE!!


If you CANNOT take care of yourself, how can you help OTHERS??


Dreamer
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B) Brother, now a days there are lots of outsourcing / sub contracting. There were creative enough to let you do it and they reap the advantage, so as not to sour their relationship with the university. Why must we fight? Lots more can be done if we work "together" in alignment and in the same direction.

This post has been edited by MrFarmer: Aug 29 2011, 03:01 PM

Compare that with the people living in Africa like Ethiopia, when people regularly starve to death, loss their lives to disease, women who are raped on a daily basis and man who are forced by militia to work 16 hours gruelling forced labour for very little food and no money. People who have nothing to eat and resort to eating cow's dung.....You, my friend are considered very, very, very lucky. The fact that you were given an opportunity to move out of poverty proves that you are very lucky compared to the africans who have no such opportunities and risk death every single day!!!.

And with that, do you think we should be contented and take things for granted by leading a mediocre and average life not giving any shit to those born in Africa?

No! but i believe we should excel in everything we do, so that we can be a blessing to those unfortunate than us, and giving aid to those in africa or any needy people, so they have a 2nd chance in life to succeed. How can we help others if we ourselves can barely make ends meet?

mercury8400,

OBVIOUSLY, you do not live in Malaysia...

Half of my parent generation were massacred by Japanese during WWII.

Those conditions that you described EXIST in Malaysia during WWII.

Dreamer

P.S.: So, what had you DONE for those people in Africa?? If you DID NOTHING, why do you TALK about them??

P.S.2: I donate money to charity. In consistent with my philosophy, I BELIEVE I should put in MY EFFORT to help people instead of just talk about it. "Can Do" attitude versus "Can Whine" attitude.

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Added on August 29, 2011, 7:13 pmMaverick2011,

1) How do you know that I had a healthy body?? I just choose NOT to glorify my suffering.

<<Most of the older generation come from poor family. They have to work long hours and food is not abundant. >>

2) You must not READ very well. We STARVED regularly through childhood. Starving = no food.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 29 2011, 07:37 PM

Folks,

For THOSE that choose to learn, do you OBSERVE just what happened in this THREAD??

We had a bunch of APOLOGISTS shown up. They are people that LIKE to give EXCUSES as to they are NOT born with superior gene and hence they cannot be successful. Or, help OTHERS to use excuses.

What I did in the past is IRRELEVANT to YOU. The ONLY RELEVANT question is is this method useful to YOU??

Whatever happened to YOU in the past is IRRELEVANT to. The ONLY QUESTION is can you CHOOSE to THINK differently and start improving??

There is one more thing that I had not talked about. It is called PACING.

Life is a marathon. I am not showing you a "Get Rich Quick" scheme. And, you DO NOT kill yourself in the process of improving. All you have to do is DO SOMETHING everyday.

1) THINK DIFFERENTLY. Have a "Can Do" attitude. What can I do to improve my chances?? What is the GAP??

2) Have a plan.

3) Do a little bit everyday. Spend 10 to 15 minutes everyday to focus and learn something that you want to be VERY GOOD at.

4) You will get better. Eventually, you will be much better than AVERAGE PEOPLE.

(1) to (4) does not require you to have SUPERIOR GENE. It requires YOU to believe that

A) You can improve

B) You are committed to put in the effort.

EXCUSES will not get you there.

Dreamer

I think what maverick trying to say was most of the older generation come from poor family, which is kinda common at that time to work long hour and food is not abundant.

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Added on August 29, 2011, 8:11 pmThe only reason I apologize previously was because I felt that I unintentionally insulted you. I respect what you have been through. That's why I apologize. As simple as that. I wasn't giving any excuses.

Somehow I can see one more thing from you. I think you are good at giving others opinion or in other word teaching, but you are not a good LISTENER. You don't LISTEN and UNDERSTAND what other people trying to TELL, but you listen and INTERPRET the message in your own way. Which at the end you don't get the message people trying to deliver to you and you only listen to yourself.

This post has been edited by waxppl: Aug 29 2011, 08:29 PM

Bill Gate and Warren Buffet donate out 90+% of their assets. Are they selfish??

They are MORE GENEROUS than most Poor People.

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they are dam rich...d poor can AFFORD to be generous...isnt it an unfair comparison