I think most of you relate lube turning black = no good. After speaking to quite a few actually working in the lube industry, it is almost ascertain....BLACK got NOTHING to do with lube good or not.

If your engine got soot and contaminants, a good lube will be able to suspend those contaminant in the oil itself. Thus if your engine is a bit dirty, your oil will turn brownish black even at 2-3K mileage.

Its one of the KEY FUNCTION of a good lube to suspend those contaminant in the oil. It had no affect whatsover on the addictives and lubrication function. However when the oil START to turn honey like. Thats the symptom, its at the end of life of the lube where the contaminant is either too much or the addictives to keep the contaminant from forming sludge worn out. We should avoid honeylike oil from forming thus usually 5K mileage oil change is recommended to prevent this from happening. When it happen, some sludge might have been formed, a bit late.

So if your lube start turning black even at 2K, its might means the detergent function is doing its job and the oil is holding those contaminant in suspend...don't worry if using good lube, the addictive will keep the dirt apart from forming sludge.

Not so sure if its fake, if engine lose power or oil turn honeylike after 2-3K, then better check if not engine issue, change the lube out fast if suspect its fake.

Heard even petronas also got fake (not sure) as sometimes even spare part shops also can't differentiate thus unless you got a reliable source, you might not want to risk it. Thats why some buy from petrol station although more expensive. Peace of mind....sure no fake if buy from Petronas station for example. Hypermarket like Tesco also should not have fake coz they will be in trouble if they sell fake even unintentionally.

Can it be because of Caltex? techron at work cleaning your engine while you drive...

Good explanation

Tak ada lar...too expensive. Mobil 1 CAN last more than 10k, so does a few FS but the claim usually had some hidden cavaet. A true group 4 FS like redline was designed to last over 15k to 25K.....also with cavaet.

In the end, all lubes no matter what manufacturer use this term "We suggest you follow your owner’s manual recommendation".

One of the common critical cavaet is IT CAN LAST depending on engine make (really depends on what car you drive coz different engine make got different cooling system, lubrication function, etc), driving, weather, road, dust, humidity and traffic conditions.

Due to our Malaysian "severe" driving category and our so-call small and mid-size sedan engine design, I would not recommend 10K mileage. At most by 7K to 8K, should change. Personally I gonna change FS at 5K to 6K max to keep my engine performance at optimum condition (change before lube addictives even started to wear out). Yes, its more costly but if you cannot afford to change at 5K mileage for FS or semi, can always switch to mineral...engine will be even cleaner than using FS 10K change in the end.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Aug 23 2011, 10:16 AM

Thats the problem, how to identify the originnal lube and fake one ....event the supermarket like tesco and carefour they also unable to prevetn the fake oil cost the dealer who only kena lega action at the end, do you think the foreign contry own supermarket will easyl get in the legal case because the engine oil are fake.

Maybe it was Caltex, but not because the clening function, is becaus the powarrrr make us FnF kaw kaw thus engine become black.

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Added on August 23, 2011, 10:21 am thats why i suggest using Tesco brand mineral oil ..... and change every 5k km

This post has been edited by ngeo88: Aug 23 2011, 10:21 AM

Hello all,
My rear right tyre alway low angin..when i check and pump, then after 2days, check again, it will lower than i pump..is it bocor ahh

One of the main reason I still in doubt on magnatec...especially many of you say even after 5K, still mostly golden....mostly golden....not much contaminant suspend in there...where does the contaminant goes. Stick to the engine? Either that or the engine very clean. So far, I have not use a lube than still remain mostly golden after 5K...even those good expensive lube will turn brownish after 5K at our weather and dusty environment...

thats the miracle thing of Castrol Magnatec but the Castrol Edge turn black fast.

But we don't know how good and effective is the addictive in tesco brand oil....same with china branded wan kah...

Those proprietry addictives used by branded lube is what makes us goes for them...beside the base oil, they are the one that makes each stands out from each other (brands).

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Added on August 23, 2011, 10:27 amSure its a miracle???...if so, why sell edge at even more expensive price. Edge is doing what most good lube are doing, cleaning the engine as well as suspending the contaminant. Only magnatec very special....

Mmm....maybe magnatec can pulverise the contaminant.....haha....suddenly see all contaminant stick to engine like a magnet...

This post has been edited by Cavino: Aug 23 2011, 10:28 AM

i asked cos i just bought a bottle of mobil 1 at RM119 in tesco last weekend. wanted to grab anotber bottle.. but i am worry, it might cause a slight increase in FC for my car... so end up only got 1 bottle.. will try in the next service . .... cos somehow.. alot of older generation people tells me..mobil 1 is like the better one against all other brands..

I think the contaminant actually trapped underneath, cause when i service my car that time when they remove the nut, black oil came out...

mine one is front right side, when going tru on uneven surface, not cornering, going straight also got metal knocking sound...

FFK last night.. =.=..

Then buih buih suppose to come out from the exhaust lah.. haha..

Probably u got a small leak somewhere around the tire or the tire valve is faulty and its slowly releasing air. U can go to a tire shop and ask them to check for u.. Changing the valve shd be around RM5-15 with workmanship.. If there is a nail or what, patching the tire only cos RM5 per hole if its not big. The air pressure shd maintain for at least around 1 week and above without changing.

U have to join us for TT ady.. We need to check ur car.. hehe..

very hard to identify also... the sound not consistent... everyday i complaint at SC, also useless, when test drive... nothing...

I mean royal purple.

been using this lube for my previous car its pretty good

Come bring it to the Klang road there.. confirm whatever hidden or not hidden rattling noise all will come out one shot.. hahaha

Hmmm is it good?? I read a few reviews and comparison for it.. It wasnt that good for RP.. They lube is good but the cleaning agent is a bit too harsh. And how much did u get it?

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Aug 23 2011, 11:16 AM

for my previous iswara and waja (mitsubishi engine) it was good.

quite satisfied with it.

one noticeable difference is that the engine is much quieter.

petrol consumption also improved.

someone bought it for me..if i'm not mistaken its around RM40 per litre.

This post has been edited by hw88: Aug 23 2011, 11:35 AM

If you ask the lube ppl, they will say viscosity matter the most. U might have the best lube but wrong viscosity, will perform worst than those cheaper lube but right viscosity. Mobil 1 is a good lube and generally quite expensive especially 0W40 (the golden bottle wan).

The one you bought is the silver bottle wan right. I think weight 50 is a bit heavy for our ride, it might be FS but still viscosity is the heavier 50 rather than our recommended balanced performance 40.

Probably more protection due to ability to withstand more heat but FC sure suffer with heavier acceleration. Can use but I would still recommend next time, use back weight 40. You can see Proton also now changing PE oil to weight 40 liliao after being batu for so long and use 50 weighted lube.

Mobil 1 more popular mah last time. It still is. Old times, those other good branded oil did not make it over here. So older ppl only got Mobil 1 to compare. Either way Mobil 1 still one of the few top range FS around.

Not really gold la. It will slowly turn to brownish. I service my car about 8k mileage with magnatec. It is a bit brownish when they release from the engine. I checked at 5k using the dip rod can see the lub start to turn brown. Magnetec can last till 8K, but don go until 10k la. not good.

Using Magnetec until now. Very satisfied with it. Maybe will go for Mobile 1 on the next service. LOL Dono how much my supplier friend will offer me.

plan to do autofoam for my car side and rear chassis,is it useful?

xan:when u wan take harmee goreng??the mee still in my house lo...how about tis sat?i will go to PJ,u can come to take?