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 -+♦+- LYN PROTON PERSONA CLUB V22 -+♦+-

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samwongjyhhorng
post Aug 17 2011, 06:17 PM

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today went to my fren used car shop to chit chat..and i saw he got one waja gsr turbo manual for sell..then i ask him take me one round to test lo..the turbo feel reali syiok lo..after sat bec persona,langsung feel no power like kancil lo rclxub.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 17 2011, 08:10 PM)
laugh.gif Come lah.. I let u sit M3 1 time.. Then see whether u think NA or turbo nicer.. brows.gif
5 thumbs up.. brows.gif thumbup.gif If only I got 5 thumbs.. Maintenance damn high, nid to change engine oil every 3k KMs to be safe. 3k KMs for me = less than 1 month. Every month change engine oil I ma pokai?
U forgot what they taught u in science back in high school ah? Sel kering sel basah.. brows.gif
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i wanna sit M3 drool.gif ..when rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 17 2011, 10:15 PM)
i seldom high rev, somemore my car is auto...
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mostly is crank sensor spoiled ady
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post Aug 17 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 17 2011, 10:21 PM)
when cranking... only can hear tak tak tak... and the speedometer up and down around 10-20km...


Added on August 17, 2011, 10:22 pm

only 27k lar...
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if speedometer will move,then not is crank sensor problem ady..should be ur ecu firmware something wrong ady
samwongjyhhorng
post Aug 18 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 18 2011, 05:00 PM)
Deng.. I got 1 more set of RS pad 550degrees want to offload for RM140.. Who wants?  biggrin.gif
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i want..but no money nw lo cry.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 08:48 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQRq1HKLEQ...player_embedded

waja cps vs waja campro vs inspira 4b10 vs neo cps

dunno inspira is manual or auto lo..if is our PE,sure kena tarik at least 4 tiang lampu lo doh.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 09:26 PM)
Malaysian wan Edge & Edge Sport fully synthetic, Magnatec semi synthetic only available in 10W-40 & 10W-30.. Overseas Magnatec got 5w-40 fully synthetic.
I like u reply.. hmm.gif
U see any point in this race? What they trying to prove? Waja CPS (125 BHP), Campro (110 BHP), 4B10 (140 BHP), Neo CPS (125 BHP).

Btw there are news that there will be a Inspira 'Evo' coming out soon.. Using Lancer Ralliart's engine, which is a detuned 4B11T Evo X engine. I think it'll probably be placed at around RM 180-200k. Not good for Malaysian roads tho, and definitely not good for Mitsubishi's reputation.
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i think mitsubishi wont so stupid to let proton use their evolution engine gua doh.gif if like tat,sure many loyal fans of mitsubishi will fxxx the mitsubishi vmad.gif
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post Aug 20 2011, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 11:28 PM)
Oh yeah, and I never shared my story of test driving the Honda Insight yet..

My verdict:

As a true petrolhead (would love to declare myself as one, but I haven't own an Alfa yet. Shame.), I often cringe at the sight of hybrids on the road. Especially Malaysian roads. I couldn't help but to notice that they all share the same dull, not-so-fast-back styling. Take the Toyota Prius & Honda Insight for an instance. The 'hybrid shape' usually explains how boring hybrids are; and Lexus joined the market with their quintessentially designed, rather pleasant looking CT200h. Doesn't matter to me, still a hybrid anyway. It's just another Prius in Lexus' clothing. Although it does make me squirm whenever one drives past me. Yes, I'm a sucker for Lexus (Lexuses? Lexi? Lexera?). The CT200h shares the similar engine, similar electric motor with its' cousin, and that gives a similar combined output. Also not to mention that I was once marinated, dusted, grilled & smoked in my stock Persona by a Prius, driven by a lady. At 180 KM/h. On the ever bumpy Duke Highway.

Let's get back to the main point, shall we? I wasn't too keen to test drive the Insight at first, because I'm still against the whole hybrid idea. But because it was a sincere offer made by my friend who recently acquired her new Insight, and me being the worst critic among my peers when it comes to cars, I reluctantly accepted the offer. Yes, I was still very skeptical at this point, but not until I was greeted with a warm welcome by a nice 'beep' when the door was opened. Could've been worse.

I must say I was rather pleased by the arrangement of buttons & dials on the dashboard in the car. A nice-to-the-touch CD player with grey brushed metal finishings; can't help but to perpetually run my fingertips on the headunit & caress it. Am I the only one with a fetish for brushed finishings here?

Digital speedo display. Hmm. Nice touch, but it wouldn't give as much thrill as watching the needle rise on a conventional analogue. It's a 1,339 CC 4-banger with an ELECTRIC MOTOR. Wouldn't do that quick, anyway.
It weighs around the same as a Persona, mind you.

I hate it when car manufacturers, especially the big ones like Honda decide to use cheap plastics for the door trims in their cars. The door trim feels REALLY cheap, very close in quality to that of the first generation Myvi. As if they were made out of recycled plastic bags. It doesn't feel like a sub RM 100k car to the receptors on my fingertips. Come to think of it, the Myvi's door panel were less flimsy compared to the Insight's. Even the interior of the slightly cheaper, new Honda City is a notch above. Sound insulation was O.K., but Honda could've done better.

And so, what's the drive like?
The stepless CVT gearbox provided the car with a rather smooth acceleration. 0-100 in about 11.4 seconds as recorded by the car owner who was sitting beside me at that time, a far cry from the manufacturer's claim of 10-ish seconds. Still faster than many cars today. Lesson learnt; do not EVER mess with hybrids as they have enough torque from the electric motors to smoke you from standstill. Comfort was acceptable on paved surface, although on certain rough road patches you could feel the details on the road; stones, tiny cracks, holes. At one point I actually thought I felt the car went over an engraving on the road that reads: 'MRR2, 1992'.

Honda should've painted the ECO button in red instead of green with fine printings on it, in bolded capital that says: 'Do not press.'. With the ECO mode activated, it was a pain to sit in the car through the traffic under the ever blazing, scorching sun on our way to Pavilion as it reduces the climate control (the mighty invention that we Malaysians worship and recognize as 'air-cond') fan speed and recirculates the air in the car more. Might be a rather nice implementation to other parts of the world, but not here in Malaysia. And as smooth as the engine is (a plus point for the Insight), it is rather irritating when it constantly stops and restarts in a jam when your foot is on the brakes. The ECO mode also limits the power and torque, which is a rather brilliant way to reduce fuel consumption, but there isn't enough power to get the car up to a cruising speed once the traffic cleared.

Overall, the Insight is a rather decent car, but what you get doesn't actually justify what you paid for. Probably paying extra for that electric motor and battery, but the interior should've been better, and comfort can still be improved. Haven't actually tried to thrash the car around corners to test the handling, but from city maneuvers, it's easy to tell that the car wouldn't slip through corners like a snake. Steering was extremely light, so light that I had to constantly remind myself that I'm holding a steering wheel that is ACTUALLY connected to the front wheels, as opposed to my cousin's 1994 Proton Saga Iswara. Trying to park that Saga in a parallel parking box is equivalent to working out at the gym for 30 minutes with no membership fees; I can skip gym altogether! Point being, if you have RM 100k to splurge on a car, go for the new City or the Jazz instead.
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0-100 juz need 11.4sec..tis is good result..compare wit our persona,its faster than us ady
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post Aug 20 2011, 12:03 PM

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i got offer from my fren..he wan change his gen2 ady.and he asked whether interested change my engine wit him or not..his engine is mivec ck auto triptronic..all standard and condition is ok..i only need top up RM1k..and plus the installation fee is around RM3000..
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post Aug 20 2011, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 20 2011, 12:16 PM)
swap swap...then TT test drive brows.gif
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need ask my father permission 1st lo..if not,then kena tiao kaw kaw lo..mivec around 150bhp lo..not so power lo..wira one more better..can get 175bhp..
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post Aug 20 2011, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 20 2011, 12:20 PM)
你有钱go ahead lah ! rclxms.gif


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this is the main problem lo...change crank pully also cannot change engine doh.gif
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how u knw i got money leh doh.gif but i watch the video at youtube regarding mivec ck after they install in waja.0-100 still need around 10sec for manual lo doh.gif
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post Aug 20 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 20 2011, 03:38 PM)
I see. Yea true also. I didn't see the damage to ur car so dono how bad it is mah. If can spray the bumper together with the car after ketuk the paint will match better.
Toyota claimed the Prius does 0-100 in 10 secs. Prius using 1.8 engine. Partly also because the Insight comes with CVT. And the Insight's combined torque is about 200 NM. As we all know torque is very important for acceleration and uphill abilities. That's how Tesla Roadster can achieve 0-100 under 4 seconds although using ONLY electric motor. 270 NM of torque at ZERO (0, SIFAR) RPM.
I kinda forgot this already.. But if I remember correctly, there is, but only 1.
Yea cos I thought the damage is to ur bumper only ma. If u ask them spray for u it's cheaper.
I don't like the Prius. Generally I'm still against all sorts of electric/hybrid cars, brand doesn't matter. Although I would really LOVE to try the CT200h, as I found out from a Lexus salesman that it is slightly different than Prius (there are settings for the car that can be adjusted on the fly to provide more response & power).
Installation fee RM 3000? hmm.gif I feel it's a bit expensive though. I wouldn't do it if I were u wink.gif
Frequency collision la. So happened that Saga BLM's alarm frequency is the same as ur PE's ma. Cant be avoided lah.. Sure got chance something like this will happen wan.. That's why I install aftermarket alarm system whistling.gif
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installation fee around RM1500,and need top up him another RM1k..
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post Aug 20 2011, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 20 2011, 05:37 PM)
Even if paying for both car transplant also too expensive d. Do remember he still need to top up RM 1k to his friend samore.
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yalo..top up RM1k to him and pay the own transplant fee..ya,i wanna ask,if v want convert to cps,is it need change engine?i saw half cut cps is RM4.5k lo..dunno how much our engine can trade in..or v juz change to cps head and ecu,then is ok?the 2nd head cps is RM1k.;but dunno where to buy cps ecu lo..

one of cari member has use his PE auto test wit his fren gen2 cps auto at kesas highway..0-200 langsung cant chase cps lo..
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post Aug 20 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 20 2011, 05:53 PM)
I saw once ppl sell whole set campro IAFM 1.6 engine for 7k. But that was a while ago. Just customize & change ur normal IAFM to CPS lah. For wat wan go get halfcut n all. Waste time waste money very troublesome samore. RM 3k only ma for CPS set.
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u means new head cps and wiring cps?so still can use bec IAFM?
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post Aug 20 2011, 06:44 PM

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my fren juz confirmed wit me..RM1k top up to him..and installation fee around RM1.5k for my car..include mivec disc brake,mivec ori absorber,alarm system(aftermarket),dashboard mivec wit digital A/C and engine itself..
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post Aug 20 2011, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(azeotrope @ Aug 20 2011, 06:58 PM)
come to think of it, not bad...  hmm.gif
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but the time when he bought the half cut from shop,the mileage ady 150k km..plus my fren use one yrs ady..total is 180k km lo..
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post Aug 20 2011, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 20 2011, 10:36 PM)
Sam, why susah susah mod this? better you go get a better car instead of modding your PE. If really you mod beyond your PE still you are driving PE. This does not make your PE ori anymore. As for converting CPS better you go buy a second hand persona with cps engine. I think you sell of your currenty PE also got untung a bit.
Feel so good. LOL  brows.gif  Mod NA engine can easily goes up to 10k LOL
Mine below 20 cents even i always fnf in city area oh. Max also 20 cents.
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can get 2nd hand persona cps?i got one seller of cps head and wiring harness ady..will discuss price wit him on 2moro..finally,i decided will give up the mivec engine since it cant use bec the abs function lo..convert the cps is more better
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post Aug 20 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 20 2011, 10:54 PM)
I got a friend who has a persona CPS h-line. Damn powerful. He din mod anything also better than mine. But CPS engine FC higher compare to IAFM one. You really wan to scarified you FC? hmm.gif
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how much he convert to cps?can help me to ask him?FC is ok lo..since i onli travel 10km everyday onli..power wise more important lo..
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post Aug 21 2011, 11:07 AM

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hey..xan..after u sold ur exhaust system and drop in filter,any difference after ur car totally stock?i plan wan de-modify my muffler lo..wanna change bec to stock except powerzone header and mid section.
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post Aug 21 2011, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Aug 21 2011, 11:59 AM)
Wah. Very rich already eh this month dunno go up how many times. laugh.gif
Why wanna do that? hmm.gif
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u still remember my muffler sound???feel loud lo


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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 21 2011, 12:33 PM)
Less power lo laugh.gif sound less garang lo.xD why wan demod? Lol
No lah. Last nite sit friend's car go wan..didn't spend any money also.
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less power at low end?i remember u mentioned u still can speed to 200kmh during stock nw,rite?

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