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post Aug 15 2011, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 15 2011, 03:36 PM)
hey man,
U didnt follow my whole story I guess.
Previously a company helped me applied, failed.
Appealed and failed. << yes, she did helped me to appeal. I am sorry for the wrong guess previously

Then as suggested by forummers, I leave it and move on to other company.
Currently what I am saying is already the second company that help me to process for the working pass.
I think you missed out the scenario.
This time I am not guessing, but is confirmed that he havent helped me to apply yet.
Cz the HR just contacted me. << not guessing this time
Well, I am thinking, why want to go through all the messes to apply for TEP?
Isnt WP is easier to apply since it does not requires a degree cert? Well suited for my current situation.
But the company must willing to pay the levy in the first place, right?


Added on August 15, 2011, 4:38 pm

hey man,
we are here to share, to learn and to help each other.
Not to criticise.
*peace* icon_rolleyes.gif

Well, I listed my case here just as a guideline for other ppl.

sharing is caring  thumbup.gif  blush.gif
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If you are real good and outstanding, you think the HR will react like this?
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post Aug 15 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 15 2011, 04:36 PM)
hey man,
U didnt follow my whole story I guess.
Previously a company helped me applied, failed.
Appealed and failed. << yes, she did helped me to appeal. I am sorry for the wrong guess previously

Then as suggested by forummers, I leave it and move on to other company.
Currently what I am saying is already the second company that help me to process for the working pass.
I think you missed out the scenario.
This time I am not guessing, but is confirmed that he havent helped me to apply yet.
Cz the HR just contacted me. << not guessing this time
Well, I am thinking, why want to go through all the messes to apply for TEP?
Isnt WP is easier to apply since it does not requires a degree cert? Well suited for my current situation.
But the company must willing to pay the levy in the first place, right?


Added on August 15, 2011, 4:38 pm

hey man,
we are here to share, to learn and to help each other.
Not to criticise.
*peace* icon_rolleyes.gif

Well, I listed my case here just as a guideline for other ppl.

sharing is caring  thumbup.gif  blush.gif
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ok, you may be right he has not apply for you yet. if you have just went through your interview like few days ago, please be patient. in case if you dont know, it is very normal in work field to take a few months time from interview to starting work for a new comer. like one of the forummer mentioned earlier, people do things by prioritizing. and yes you are not in their priority.

levy is one thing, are you gonna work with WP even after your graduation? whatever reason it is, i believe they have their reason not applying a WP for you. maybe you can find out from them.

however, the point i am going to make is that why so despo wanna intern in spore? despite the low pay, i think going through all these hassles is simply not worth it. i know i know you have your reasons to work here but you have to understand the fact that you are a foreigner in this land and it is their say whether you can or cannot work here.

since you have been rejected once, it is very likely that you will be rejected again. IMO, doing internship in msia wont differ much. no?
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post Aug 15 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 15 2011, 04:36 PM)
hey man,
U didnt follow my whole story I guess.
Previously a company helped me applied, failed.
Appealed and failed. << yes, she did helped me to appeal. I am sorry for the wrong guess previously

Then as suggested by forummers, I leave it and move on to other company.
Currently what I am saying is already the second company that help me to process for the working pass.
I think you missed out the scenario.
This time I am not guessing, but is confirmed that he havent helped me to apply yet.
Cz the HR just contacted me. << not guessing this time
Well, I am thinking, why want to go through all the messes to apply for TEP?
Isnt WP is easier to apply since it does not requires a degree cert? Well suited for my current situation.
But the company must willing to pay the levy in the first place, right?


Added on August 15, 2011, 4:38 pm

hey man,
we are here to share, to learn and to help each other.
Not to criticise.
*peace* icon_rolleyes.gif

Well, I listed my case here just as a guideline for other ppl.

sharing is caring  thumbup.gif  blush.gif
*
you will start to know some of HRs in sg 8.30am-5.30pm style and tachi style or not follow-up or not update procedures biggrin.gif
with the levies & quota they sometimes even reluctant to go through the re-application process.

i guess maybe after president election 27 Aug 2011 for direction of foreign labour policy?

so be prepare to expect the worst case and stay back at malaysia.

This post has been edited by ch_teo: Aug 15 2011, 05:13 PM
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post Aug 15 2011, 05:56 PM

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hi all,
i wan to kno is hr in singapore company directly throw my resume to dustbin if they see i put msia phone number?

my experience tell me they either throw my detail to bin or redirect my application to msia's company, eg intel sg to intel penang

DO i need a sg number to increase my chance of getting interview?
please advice
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post Aug 15 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(WhiteFlag @ Aug 15 2011, 05:56 PM)
hi all,
i wan to kno is hr in singapore company directly throw my resume to dustbin if they see i put msia phone number?

DO i need a  sg number to increase my chance of getting interview?
please advice
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yes, better still if have a singapore address cool2.gif
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post Aug 15 2011, 07:25 PM

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Hi all,

I'm a newbie to this forum, have been following the posts and replies. Looks like a good place to share your problems, really appreciate if I could get some useful advices.

Studied in NUS, bonded to Singapore as I received the MOE tuition grant. Deferred the bond, went on to Australia to pursue postgraduate studies. Graduated this year, now back to job hunting in Singapore. I've been actively searching and applying for banking/financial services jobs since June, up till now, I've attended one interview through application and 2 through connection. No luck yet sad.gif I know competition is very stiff in this industry, I've cast my net wider and looked into other industries as well.

I've been told that Sg is an unkind place for entry-level applicants, to make matters worst, I don't hold a pr/citizenship! Anyone bonded like me and facing difficulties in securing a job???
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post Aug 15 2011, 07:38 PM

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If you can't find a job what happens to the bond?
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post Aug 15 2011, 07:54 PM

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hmm weird that i can open the link without any prob

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" Cook a Pot of CURRY " - to celebrate Curries as part of our way of life - and to share this celebration with those who are new to our shores!

Please read the entire post!
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Case in mention
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A mainland Chinese ( new citizen family ) asks a local Indian family not to eat curry or cook curry
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As of recent, in the news, a report came about that a mainland Chinese family told our local Indian family not to eat curry and not to cook curry. This came about becos the Today Newspaper wrote about this case. .

The appointed mediator - a certain Madam Giam facilitated the case in such a way that : the Indian family could cook curry only when the mainland Chinese family is not at home. ( ie sort of * binding settlement or agreement)

http://www.todayonline.com​/Singapore/ED...‹putes-hit-high ( this is the link)

and this is the clarification to the case:
http://app2.mlaw.gov.sg/Hi​ghlights/tabi...aspx?ItemId=568


How we feel
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How could a appointed mediator facilitate the case in such a way that restricts the lifestyle and cooking norms of the Indian family? Or any other local family who practices a cultural lifestyle that we have all made our own? In this case, Curry has always been part of our culture since the 1800s. It can be anything else that you or I hold dear.

There is a native Malay proverb "Di mana bumi dipijak, di situ langit dijunjung" ("You should hold up the sky of the land where you live") - ie one should respect the country in which you choose to live in. ( ie blend/ assimilate/ tolerate/ integrate into the community of your chosen choice)

what we wish for
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When the new immigrants arrive here, we wish for them to respect/ embrace the cultural / lifestyle and linguistic norms of this nation. We wish for all new immigrants and citizens to tolerate and appreciate the various and diverse cultural aspects of the various ethnic- minority groups we have here.

This is Singapore and we are part of Malayan culture. Our hinterland previously was Malaysia and the Indonesian archipelago. Our ancestors came, met and mingled and through an adventurous and open mindset, created something unique and beautiful... ( thus our local culture as such- curries/ spices/ a vast melting pot of people and mixed heritages)

* A message to all new citizens: We sincerely hope you integrate into our local culture and make attempts to assimilate and tolerate the various multi-ethnic cultures we had built up so painstakingly over the decades. Because at the same time, we are definitely open to taking the best that you have to offer, and to create new and beautiful Singaporean things.

*We Singaporeans are basically nice and tolerant people. We will accept you as new citizens and hope you blend in and integrate with us well.

Purpose of Event - to Cook Curry and Spread the love to all
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Thus, this Curry Event was created to promote the " message " of Curry Cooking and let all natives and newly arrived immigrants understand the message of tolerance and appreciation of our beautiful multi-racial culture.

Thus, I hope that every Singapore Citizen/ or true-blue natives and even Friends of Singapore can COOK a pot of curry all over the island on this date (21st Aug 2011- Sunday) and let the aromas of CURRIES permeate and waft through the whole nation!:)

SHARE The Pots of Curries! ( with your new friends and neighbours)
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Share the pots of curries with your new neighbours and your new friends and your newly arrived immigrant citizens. Let us spread the message of love, tolerance and acceptance. Get the newly arrived citizens to appreciate curry and also appreciate the cultures of the various ethnic groups here:)

(If you are overseas and cannot cook - can support us in spirit by clicking 'Attending' too lah!)

Upset with CMC
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We are mainly upset with the "Community Mediation Centre's" mediation action of actually facilitating such a mediation agreement to be legally binding. It is the right of the Indian family to cook curry at any time they wish to within the four walls of their home. ( having said that, let us all- natives, new citizens or otherwise, embrace the multi-cultural aspects of our nation)

Every Singaporean should just cook a pot of curry and eat it ( regardless of race / language/ or religion). We are Singaporeans and we LOVE our curries - be it chicken curry/ fish curry/ lamb curry/ beef curry/ beef rendang/ lontong/ mee siam/ laksa/ Petai sambal belachan / ayam buah keluak etc

Thank You Very Much for supporting "Cook A Pot of Curry" Event!

_ from the Admin Group

A Foot Note: (Important - Please read)
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That said above, let us all calm down and just take it to a quiet level of cooking curry and let us share these pots of lovely curries with our new citizens and get them to appreciate curries or any other Singaporean dishes:)

and please, PLEASE, do not use expletives, vulgarities and no talk of violence please. It is to be a "Curry Appreciation cooking"l movement:) to cook curries on the 21st of Aug. That is all.

Further thoughts:
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You can see from the attendees that not all are what we would have expected at first thought to be 'native' Singaporeans (based on ethnicity and nationality).

Paraphrasing what S Rajaratnam said so many many years ago, being a 'Singaporean' is something that you have as a conviction - a frame of mind - an outlook in life - I am glad that we have so many Friends of Singapore, some who may be living with us on this small island, and some who are far away, supporting this event, with a spirit of solidarity and understanding.

In a multi-ethnic/cultural environment, we need to learn to understand each others culture, respect the differences, and also be open enough to know how to take the best of each others culture and make it part of our own - to enrich our individual and collective lives.

So, in this case, CURRY, it is not just an issue of our Indian fellow citizens, it is a beautiful symbol of what co-existence can create - of being Singaporean in spirit!

From someone who is away from Singapore but cooks curries when he can, to remind him of home....


what do you guys think brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Aug 15 2011, 08:23 PM

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Next? Dog meat + curry? No thanks.

Now is 7th month, neighbor burn offering at corridor and some ash just when in my unit even I close the window. How? Just wipe the floor lor.

Upstairs cook sambal. Just smell it lor.

I have young kids, when they make hell lot of noise late night. I thank my neighbors who just ignore it lor.

Sg house are closer and dense. Learn to take and give so that we all have happier time here.

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post Aug 15 2011, 08:46 PM

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For those who have been working there, how did you guys find work there?

Apply online here, travel there for interview, or first find a room and stay for a few months while looking for jobs?

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post Aug 15 2011, 08:54 PM

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have live in a block with a sick old lady next two door away. every nite crying our mournin in pain, like ghost sound. wat to do , just ignore , pity and scary at the same time. after sometime the sound stop. then I recAll vividly , the day before , opposite floor, police bring camping tent, sad I guess she jump. sweat.gif

stuff I dont like livin in the pigeon hole doh.gif
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post Aug 15 2011, 09:34 PM

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for me the biggest adjustment i had to make was the volume on my speakers when i watch tv/movies/play ps3. back in KL can pretty full blast. Now over here gotta control like mad.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 15 2011, 09:34 PM)
for me the biggest adjustment i had to make was the volume on my speakers when i watch tv/movies/play ps3. back in KL can pretty full blast. Now over here gotta control like mad.
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get your headset ready and turn to the maximum see your house explode or your ears tongue.gif
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 15 2011, 09:34 PM)
for me the biggest adjustment i had to make was the volume on my speakers when i watch tv/movies/play ps3. back in KL can pretty full blast. Now over here gotta control like mad.
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hifi room?
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post Aug 15 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 15 2011, 09:34 PM)
for me the biggest adjustment i had to make was the volume on my speakers when i watch tv/movies/play ps3. back in KL can pretty full blast. Now over here gotta control like mad.
I've got a corner unit and my PS3 room is right next to the lift lobby and staircase, with no immediate neighbours next to that room. And my block faces a major intersection ie. farking noisy from the buses, cars and train. Play as loud as I want with the windows closed and curtains drawn, and you can't hear a damn thing over the traffic if you stand in the common corridor.

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 15 2011, 07:38 PM)
If you can't find a job what happens to the bond?
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After a year of ACTIVE job searching, which you must show evidence of job applications and rejections then they will release you.
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i might have digress from topic, but need to check the overall working environment and culture in SG audit firms. anyone please?

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post Aug 15 2011, 10:48 PM

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please take your time to read through v1-v7, you will have lots of info
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Aug 14 2011, 09:29 PM)
Lee Hsien Loong's giving his English national day speech right now. The number of WPs and lower end EPs will be further restricted. Proportion of uni places for foreigners will progressively reduce.
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yup. i just noticed the change on the employment pass salary limit
p2 was previously $3500, now it's $4000

new pass salary limit (effective from july 1st 2011)
p1 > $8000
p2 > $4000
q1 > $2800
s > $2000

src
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/sin...1147002/1/.html
http://mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/passes-...es/default.aspx

i just got my offer, hopefully they dont have issue in applying the EP for me *pray*


Added on August 16, 2011, 1:09 am
QUOTE(WhiteFlag @ Aug 15 2011, 05:56 PM)
hi all,
i wan to kno is hr in singapore company directly throw my resume to dustbin if they see i put msia phone number?

my experience tell me they either throw my detail to bin or redirect my application to msia's company, eg intel sg to intel penang

DO i need a  sg number to increase my chance of getting interview?
please advice
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from what i've experienced, i get better respond when im in sg (with sg number & addr in my cv)

This post has been edited by jaywalker1988: Aug 16 2011, 01:09 AM
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post Aug 16 2011, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 15 2011, 04:36 PM)
hey man,
U didnt follow my whole story I guess.
Previously a company helped me applied, failed.
Appealed and failed. << yes, she did helped me to appeal. I am sorry for the wrong guess previously

Then as suggested by forummers, I leave it and move on to other company.
Currently what I am saying is already the second company that help me to process for the working pass.
I think you missed out the scenario.
This time I am not guessing, but is confirmed that he havent helped me to apply yet.
Cz the HR just contacted me. << not guessing this time
Well, I am thinking, why want to go through all the messes to apply for TEP?
Isnt WP is easier to apply since it does not requires a degree cert? Well suited for my current situation.
But the company must willing to pay the levy in the first, right?
Be patient, lady. Only got rejected one time already tak sabar biggrin.gif
They are helping you to get what you want and basically you are the one 'begging' not bestowing the honor for them to help you. dont so desperate, get ready to pack if it fails again.



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