i think they not enuf AP to bring that many in. last time wat they did was launc the car a few k more expense
that time camry 139 they sold 142, but also had very little kit as well. at best they will follow the same way, price it slightly over, and about the same kit. if it looks that good, i am sure ppl wont mind to pay XXXk more for a cbu car.

Car manufacturers nowadays are smarter. 5 years ago the number of affordable D segments were limited to only the Japs and a few Koreans. But now u have much better Korean contenders e.g Sonata, K5 and not to mention more affordable conti makes e.g VW & Peugeot. Plus Mazda knows that they have to fight against the mighty Camry and upcoming Accord too. Bermaz will take all this into consideration.

Im quite sure the new Mazda 6 will have more gear than previous models. If they throw in a 6 speed auto and min 4 airbags with VSC in the 2.0L model and still keep the price below RM160K, we'll have another serious contender in the D segment. Not to mention the new Mazda 6 will come with the latest SkyActiv technology and ELOOP capacitor based kinetic energy regenerative braking systems.

well, camry is a unker car, uncle57...so by natural instinct, u shud like it..no offense, but wat im trying to say here abt to summarize all the arguments here.. i guess, u read quite a lot since u said u can feel the anger and frust and condemnations...

but i guess, it all boils down to u, firstly, it is ur money...2ndly, wat do u want most from a car?

resale value : non in d segment got good rv, but jap will give u the best, korean yet to prove themselve
handling : conti. Assuming from ur 2.5camry preference, u can afford passat, or 508
reliability, after sales, service : get camry, go ahead. But if u read K5 thread, u can noticed a few owners there has had good experience with the naza kia warranty claims and servicing. Im not sure abt other makers thou..
design and gadgets : upcoming mazda 6 is a beau, but going to be late 2013 launching in msia, and sepc price not firmed. K5 is a head turner, 508 n K5 gadgets are plenty
comfort : teana shud win ur heart here.
fuel consumption : hybrid perhaps?

So, really. It is ur hard earn money. Buy what u want the most. Izzit reliability? then go ahead get the toyota u mentioned. Or izzit handling? So far, conti can give u best feel of handling in this price range, no one else. Or something else. From there, then u choose the COLOUR and SA with best discount/service. Get the test drive, it will give u the best description than all the posts here can add.

For me, i chose K5 simply coz of the design and the real value in the car. Full of gadgets and safety features. At times, i am contemplating. Coz at times, i wish i got a more powerful car, a turbo charged perhaps like passat. But again, after self judgement, i find power is my 2nd criteria. It is down to individuals, no car can perfectly fit a person, but it can be the closest.

overall, if they bring the new mazda in, it would be the best choice within the D segment.

If you live in big city.

regardless of price?

Any interesting article:

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/07/27/uks-most-...reliable-model/

excluding continentals. just amongst the big asians

well said.. I just wonder whether Ford Mondeo is in the league anot?..

if power is ur main issue, then mondeo is one of top notch in the price bracket. wat? 240hp 340Nm ard 190k sedan D segment? and many features too.

only real let down is the design and servicing

According to Warranty Direct's Reliability Index, Honda is the most reliable car brand while the Kia Picanto is the most reliable model.

Rounding up the top five most reliable brands are Suzuki, Toyota, Ford and Kia. At the bottom five are Mercedes-Benz, Alfa Romeo, Jeep, Porsche and Land Rover.

The top five most reliable models are Kia Picanto, Vauxhall Agila, Honda HR-V, Suzuki Alto and Ford Fiesta. The five least reliable cars are Ford Mondeo, BMW 3-series, VW Golf, Citroen Xsara, VW Caravelle and smart fortwo.


In summary, Japanese brands are generally more reliable than European (except for Ford), while luxury German brands are at the bottom half.

fantastic car. all the review i read practically worship the car.

and its proven how great it sells by seeing how much there are on the road.

design is so subjective and i found it looks just nice to me and atleast better than T & H..

I heard also some datuk need to refurnish their garage for the mondeo.

becuz richfag dont care about reliable.. they r looking at the driving sensation.. which all the bottom luxury german brands offer..

manufacturers of course are smarter nowaday due to intense competition

its those who bring the car in like bermaz, naza tat influence the final package for customer also.

also pricing decisions are not entirely in their hands as well. if too cheap nanti UMW whine.

actually, i was about to edit my comment. Yeah, design is subjective. The mondeo could be all rite, so-so. In general not a head turner, but can live with it la.

My jaw dropped when I saw that peugeot rank higher than VW and Lexus. I thought the prince engine is quite bad in terms of reliability. But then I see alot of old peugeots in the list. 307, 206, 106. No idea how the index was calculated.

i sensed sarcasm here

My friend test drove the Mondeo, and I trust his feedback. Basically the car is very solid, everything about it is good except for the not so good looking dashboard. Driving feel, NVH everything all top notch, even better than the Passat and PUG508... the problem however lies with the badge. If you put a VW badge on the Mondeo and numbers will fly, heck you stick a Hyundai or KIA badge on it also the car will easily sell as well.

If I'm not mistaken, the car was designed and tested by German engineers as well. Great car let down by the brand selling it, LOL!