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post Jul 22 2012, 03:34 PM

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if ANY of you are buying the new camry soon, do note that the new hybrid camry is also coming out soon - already out in singapore . so..technically hybrid should be cheaper since msia have a green policy and is 0% tax

http://www.oneshift.com/articles/article.php?artid=1120


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QUOTE(carpathia @ Jul 22 2012, 10:34 AM)
if ANY of you are buying the new camry soon, do note that the new hybrid camry is also coming out soon - already out in singapore . so..technically hybrid should be cheaper since msia have a green policy and is 0% tax

http://www.oneshift.com/articles/article.php?artid=1120
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post Jul 24 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(michspc @ Jul 21 2012, 05:32 PM)
Naza forte resale value is not that good also....it depreciate like 10k per year
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haha...r u sure.....than mean my friend buy a overpriced 2nd hand forte....let me tell him...let him heart attack... biggrin.gif

5-6 month ago, he's bought a 2010 EX forte 4-speed at 60k (after very hard to get 2k discount for the owner tongue.gif ), and 2010 EX that time is sell at 76k.....

if calculate by year (2010 ~ 2012) is 16k/3 = 5.3k/year

If calculate full year (March 2010 ~ Jan 2012) is 16k/2 = 8k/year

And then how you get the depreciate 10k/year??? Oso info from your friend with actual 2nd hand car buyer?
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jul 24 2012, 10:43 AM)
haha...r u sure.....than mean my friend buy a overpriced 2nd hand forte....let me tell him...let him heart attack... biggrin.gif

5-6 month ago, he's bought a 2010 EX forte 4-speed at 60k (after very hard to get 2k discount for the owner tongue.gif ), and  2010 EX that time is sell at 76k.....

if calculate by year (2010 ~ 2012) is 16k/3 = 5.3k/year

If calculate full year (March 2010 ~ Jan 2012) is  16k/2 = 8k/year

And then how you get the depreciate 10k/year??? Oso info from your friend with actual 2nd hand car buyer?
Its always calculated based on years not from the month of purchase. So its 3 years. Maybe u can check on Mudah and see other resale prices. But what im told is that the Forte has got relatively good resale values.
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post Jul 24 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jul 24 2012, 10:43 AM)
haha...r u sure.....than mean my friend buy a overpriced 2nd hand forte....let me tell him...let him heart attack... biggrin.gif

5-6 month ago, he's bought a 2010 EX forte 4-speed at 60k (after very hard to get 2k discount for the owner tongue.gif ), and  2010 EX that time is sell at 76k.....

if calculate by year (2010 ~ 2012) is 16k/3 = 5.3k/year

If calculate full year (March 2010 ~ Jan 2012) is  16k/2 = 8k/year

And then how you get the depreciate 10k/year??? Oso info from your friend with actual 2nd hand car buyer?
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u just go to mudah and check those 2010 forte ....those owner are selling 63k ...which is 20k plus lower from the new forte...why it is not depreciate 10k / year? with a car that depreciate more than 10% of the car price per year...the resale value is not really good
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QUOTE(michspc @ Jul 24 2012, 12:29 PM)
u just go to mudah and check those 2010 forte ....those owner are selling 63k ...which is 20k plus lower from the new forte...why it is not depreciate 10k / year? with a car that depreciate more than 10% of the car price per year...the resale value is not really good
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I don't think you can compare using new 2012 forte price.

The poster already mentioned at the time in 2010, the new car price was 76k (unless he got his info wrong).
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If Toyota released its fully loaded 2.5 hybrid here for 170k, I would jump all over it.

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=477&PN

Doubt it will ever happen unless they take a real beating in the D segment sales
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post Jul 24 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 24 2012, 01:28 PM)
If Toyota released its fully loaded 2.5 hybrid here for 170k, I would jump all over it.

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=477&PN

Doubt it will ever happen unless they take a real beating in the D segment sales
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singapore, taiwan, thailand already bring it the hybrid version of new camry....I just doubt if malaysia is going to bring it this version also.....and the specs is even better than non hydrid version
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Hi guys, I have a question to ask.

My friend said there are two white colour variant, White and Pearl white. Is it? I thought there is only pearl white which you need to top up RM800?
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QUOTE(michspc @ Jul 24 2012, 12:29 PM)
u just go to mudah and check those 2010 forte ....those owner are selling 63k ...which is 20k plus lower from the new forte...why it is not depreciate 10k / year? with a car that depreciate more than 10% of the car price per year...the resale value is not really good
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FYI, forte was increased the price on 2011 when the model upgraded to 6-speed, below the price tag different between 2010 & 2011~2012.

2010 2011
1.6 EX 75.8k 78.8k
1.6 SX 81.8k 85.8k
2.0 SX 93.8k 97.8k

So, u cannot compare 2010 forte with current price.

As you said that some owner sell at 63.8k (i think lower in Mudah)
http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+A+-16804385.htm

First, i am not sure the unit in EX or SX, let us take SX price to calculate.

81.8k - 63.8k = 18k/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 6k/year (Average 7.3%/year)

So how u calculate and come out 10k/year???

Let us take an example like Toyota Altis to compare with same age 2010
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Altis+1+8G+A+-15111910.htm

When the Toyota Altis 1.8G at 2010, i think the price around 123k(not much different with current price)

123k - 94.8k(current selling price in mudah) = 28.2/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 9.4k/year (Average 7.6%/year)

So, I would said Kia Forte resell value on par with toyota altis....no like you claim that more than 10k/year or depreciate >10%/year.

Please do some calculation b4 give ur "honest" opinion.






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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jul 24 2012, 03:16 PM)
FYI, forte was increased the price on 2011 when the model upgraded to 6-speed, below the price tag different between 2010 & 2011~2012.

                  2010                2011
1.6 EX        75.8k              78.8k
1.6 SX        81.8k              85.8k
2.0 SX        93.8k              97.8k

So, u cannot compare 2010 forte with current price.

As you said that some owner sell at 63.8k (i think lower in Mudah)
http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+A+-16804385.htm

First, i am not sure the unit in EX or SX, let us take SX price to calculate.

81.8k - 63.8k = 18k/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 6k/year (Average 7.3%/year)

So how u calculate and come out 10k/year???

Let us take an example like Toyota Altis to compare with same age 2010
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Altis+1+8G+A+-15111910.htm

When the Toyota Altis 1.8G at 2010, i think the price around 123k(not much different with current price)

123k - 94.8k(current selling price in mudah) = 28.2/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 9.4k/year (Average 7.6%/year)

So, I would said Kia Forte resell value on par with toyota altis....no like you claim that more than 10k/year or depreciate >10%/year.

Please do some calculation b4 give ur "honest" opinion.
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This is what i call a matured argument cuz its backed up with actual facts. Good info. Well done.
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jul 24 2012, 03:16 PM)
FYI, forte was increased the price on 2011 when the model upgraded to 6-speed, below the price tag different between 2010 & 2011~2012.

                  2010                2011
1.6 EX        75.8k              78.8k
1.6 SX        81.8k              85.8k
2.0 SX        93.8k              97.8k

So, u cannot compare 2010 forte with current price.

As you said that some owner sell at 63.8k (i think lower in Mudah)
http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+A+-16804385.htm

First, i am not sure the unit in EX or SX, let us take SX price to calculate.

81.8k - 63.8k = 18k/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 6k/year (Average 7.3%/year)

So how u calculate and come out 10k/year???

Let us take an example like Toyota Altis to compare with same age 2010
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Altis+1+8G+A+-15111910.htm

When the Toyota Altis 1.8G at 2010, i think the price around 123k(not much different with current price)

123k - 94.8k(current selling price in mudah) = 28.2/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 9.4k/year (Average 7.6%/year)

So, I would said Kia Forte resell value on par with toyota altis....no like you claim that more than 10k/year or depreciate >10%/year.

Please do some calculation b4 give ur "honest" opinion.
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Thumbs up bro..... beat that ignorant fanboy....

Summore Altis cost way expensive than Forte with a lot less kit... Both C-Segment....

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sorry, but i can't help but to notice that all these second hand kia models are actually sold by owners on websites. are there any demand for second hand koreans in reality? will they sustain the same value if being traded to dealers?
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QUOTE(stix @ Jul 24 2012, 05:36 PM)
sorry, but i can't help but to notice that all these second hand kia models are actually sold by owners on websites. are there any demand for second hand koreans in reality? will they sustain the same value if being traded to dealers?
Best way would be to ask dealers themselves.
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sorry, but i can't help but to notice that all these second hand kia models are actually sold by owners on websites. are there any demand for second hand koreans in reality? will they sustain the same value if being traded to dealers?
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sorry, but i can't help but to notice that all these second hand kia models are actually sold by owners on websites. are there any demand for second hand koreans in reality? will they sustain the same value if being traded to dealers?
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Haha....Ok let me answer your question....

Q. Are there any demand for second hand koreans in reality?
A. For sure lar (at least 1 unit have been transacted, pls read 1446 post, i dun want repeat here. smile.gif )

Q. Will they sustain the same value if being traded to dealers?
A. let me ask back, will Toyota Altis sustain the same value if being traded to dealers? Please answer me biggrin.gif


Bear in mind, Kia forte is the top sell model in C-segment car now where beat the toyota altis. IF Altis can enjoy depreciation 7-8%, why not for Kia Forte.


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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jul 24 2012, 06:06 PM)
Haha....Ok let me answer your question....

Q. Are there any demand for second hand koreans in reality?
A. For sure lar (at least 1 unit have been transacted, pls read 1446 post, i dun want repeat here. smile.gif )

Q. Will they sustain the same value if being traded to dealers?
A. let me ask back, will Toyota Altis sustain the same value if being traded to dealers? Please answer me  biggrin.gif
Bear in mind, Kia forte is the top sell model in C-segment car now where beat the toyota altis. IF Altis can enjoy depreciation 7-8%, why not for Kia Forte.
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Well said.....

And for me myself, i'll never gonna be a slave to resale value....

Ask those who are using Merc or Beemer or even Audi.... Super bad resale value...

I'm buying a Fiesta... f*** resale value.... haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jul 24 2012, 03:16 PM)
FYI, forte was increased the price on 2011 when the model upgraded to 6-speed, below the price tag different between 2010 & 2011~2012.

                  2010                2011
1.6 EX         75.8k               78.8k
1.6 SX         81.8k               85.8k
2.0 SX         93.8k               97.8k

So, u cannot compare 2010 forte with current price.

As you said that some owner sell at 63.8k (i think lower in Mudah)
http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+A+-16804385.htm

First, i am not sure the unit in EX or SX, let us take SX price to calculate.

81.8k - 63.8k = 18k/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 6k/year (Average 7.3%/year)

So how u calculate and come out 10k/year???

Let us take an example like Toyota Altis to compare with same age 2010
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Altis+1+8G+A+-15111910.htm

When the Toyota Altis 1.8G at 2010, i think the price around 123k(not much different with current price)

123k - 94.8k(current selling price in mudah) = 28.2/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 9.4k/year (Average 7.6%/year)

So, I would said Kia Forte resell value on par with toyota altis....no like you claim that more than 10k/year or depreciate >10%/year.

Please do some calculation b4 give ur "honest" opinion.
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First, it is a 1 yr 9 months sx model forte

81.8k - 6.38k = 18k/1.75 so it is RM10,285 or average 12.5 % per year


so why it is not like what i said depeciate more than 10% per year????


I really value ur 'calculation' but obviously it was very wrong , and u try to be smart enough u just make foolish of yourself, i burst into laughter and my jaw literally fell lol

This post has been edited by michspc: Jul 24 2012, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(michspc @ Jul 24 2012, 06:32 PM)
First, it is a 1 yr 9 months sx model forte

81.8k - 6.38k = 18k/1.75 so it is RM10,285 or average 12.5 % per year 
so why it is not like what i said depeciate more than 10% per year????
I really value ur 'calculation' but obviously it was very wrong , and u try to be smart enough u just make  foolish of yourself, i  burst into laughter and my jaw literally fell lol
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I don't think the numbers are that bad to be honest.

My car sold for 81k (2008 Corolla Altis) and that's coz I got a very high trade in value from Volkswagen. I checked with some 2nd hand dealers and the range was between 76k to 78k. If I had gone on Mudah, I could possibly sell it at a high of 83k. I bought my car at 117k after all the discounts and stuff.

So I lost about RM36,000 in the span of 4 years which is about 9k per year.
If I had gone outside of VW, I would have lost about RM39,000 and that's RM9750 in depreciation.
Alternatively, if I decide to sell the car direct, my depreciation would be lower but it's a matter of how long before the right buyer comes along.

Nothing beats personal real life 1st hand experience and honestly for the Forte, I would say it's still fairly decent. I say the resale value difference will range between a low of 8% to a high of 15% less than a Japanese make. All things considered, you won't be bleeding and begging the 2nd hand dealerships to take your car when it's time to let it go.
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QUOTE(michspc @ Jul 24 2012, 06:32 PM)
First, it is a 1 yr 9 months sx model forte

81.8k - 6.38k = 18k/1.75 so it is RM10,285 or average 12.5 % per year 
so why it is not like what i said depeciate more than 10% per year????
I really value ur 'calculation' but obviously it was very wrong , and u try to be smart enough u just make  foolish of yourself, i  burst into laughter and my jaw literally fell lol
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first thing...the calculation should be based on years for resale value..normally for 2010-2012...to be considered 3 years..

and its not smart enough to devide into 1.75 years just to make u not look fool...

ok..lets we calculate with your formula for altis that link given...

123k -94.8k = 28.2k/1.75 (im not sure what month for this altis..maby just 1.1 years only..)
so its 16.11k or average is 13.1% per year!!!!!!...hahahahahah!!!

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