Toyota Camry Sales May 2012

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/07/03/may-2012-...er-second-half/

haha...r u sure.....than mean my friend buy a overpriced 2nd hand forte....let me tell him...let him heart attack...

5-6 month ago, he's bought a 2010 EX forte 4-speed at 60k (after very hard to get 2k discount for the owner ), and 2010 EX that time is sell at 76k.....

if calculate by year (2010 ~ 2012) is 16k/3 = 5.3k/year

If calculate full year (March 2010 ~ Jan 2012) is 16k/2 = 8k/year

And then how you get the depreciate 10k/year??? Oso info from your friend with actual 2nd hand car buyer?

FYI, forte was increased the price on 2011 when the model upgraded to 6-speed, below the price tag different between 2010 & 2011~2012.

2010 2011
1.6 EX 75.8k 78.8k
1.6 SX 81.8k 85.8k
2.0 SX 93.8k 97.8k

So, u cannot compare 2010 forte with current price.

As you said that some owner sell at 63.8k (i think lower in Mudah)
http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+A+-16804385.htm

First, i am not sure the unit in EX or SX, let us take SX price to calculate.

81.8k - 63.8k = 18k/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 6k/year (Average 7.3%/year)

So how u calculate and come out 10k/year???

Let us take an example like Toyota Altis to compare with same age 2010
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Altis+1+8G+A+-15111910.htm

When the Toyota Altis 1.8G at 2010, i think the price around 123k(not much different with current price)

123k - 94.8k(current selling price in mudah) = 28.2/3 (calculate as 2010, 2011 and 2012) = 9.4k/year (Average 7.6%/year)

So, I would said Kia Forte resell value on par with toyota altis....no like you claim that more than 10k/year or depreciate >10%/year.

Please do some calculation b4 give ur "honest" opinion.

Haha....Ok let me answer your question....

Q. Are there any demand for second hand koreans in reality?
A. For sure lar (at least 1 unit have been transacted, pls read 1446 post, i dun want repeat here. )

Q. Will they sustain the same value if being traded to dealers?
A. let me ask back, will Toyota Altis sustain the same value if being traded to dealers? Please answer me


Bear in mind, Kia forte is the top sell model in C-segment car now where beat the toyota altis. IF Altis can enjoy depreciation 7-8%, why not for Kia Forte.

Haha....i am not going discuss/argue with you on this issue anymore. If you think the current market practice like what you said jz keep it. Until one day when you sell your car you know how to calculate.

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Added on July 25, 2012, 3:16 pmCurrent practice for the car dealer calculate is based on Year, regardless you buy the car on early or end or the Year.

Example,
You buy a car on November 2010 and sell at Feb 2012, although your car oni 1 year 4 months old.....but when you trade with car dealer....they straight away to calculate based on 3 years old car......

u cannot said aiyo brother my car oni 1 year 4 month...how come you calculate based on 3 year.....u must calculate my car value based on 1 year 4 month.....c what r the car dealer told you......

That's y many ppl always said that dun buy car end of the year even got discount few K, when come the time you sell you car....your car value drop more than you get from discount.




This post has been edited by 22222222: Jul 25 2012, 03:16 PM

How safe Toyota Car?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx8qNxvAZ6U&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LtyQ6YcMBo&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHlfC3lM7JQ

Yes, i think owner will bring this to court.

But for me, bring it to court or not is small matter, the problem is for a new camry (5 mths old) when accident happen why the airbag doesn't function? Is there any calculation to said that how serious of the impact and then the airbag will come out?

"Only when the impact strength is strong enough, the airbags will deploy."

Yes, I know the theory, but how strong the impact will cause the airbag to deploy? Is it different car different setting?

For my little knowledge, the sensor normally was located behind the tangki, when the tangki move backward and will trigger sensor and deploy airbag.

From this toyota camry case, this is consider a serious accident almost a whole "head" car was gone, why the airbag not deploy? It is unacceptable for a new 5 months car. It you said 5 years old car, maybe i accept it due to sensor failed.

Frankly speaking, for myself i never heard about Toyota car was deploying airbag during accident. I have 2 friends involved accident with toyota car, 1 is altis and other is vios. Vios is more serious, the car owner knock her head to steering too, but oso no airbas deploy.

Maybe, someone from toyota car owner, which really experience in accident with airbag deploy, can share their experience in what circumstance the airbag will deploy.

Jz for knowledge sharing, dun tembak me because you r Toyota supporter.

Thank you for sharing experience.

May i know when you in accident, what speed you carry that time?

That why lor....u punya 100km/h already out, why that Toyota Camry not deploy?

Yes, did not fasten seatbelt is one of possibility cause the airbag not deploy. Sometime i oso did it in internal road, but i don't think ppl not fasten seatbelt when high speed in highway, right? Unless they think themselves is Michael Schumacher lol.

Yes, i agreed with you on momentum, but speed oso part of momentum calculation. p=mv, where v = velocity.

Aiyo...still talking resale-value.....now ppl talking above "remove excise duty" oledi.

If this happen, apa2 car resale-value pun mati lol....

http://1christians.blogspot.com/2012/08/pk...ll-benefit.html

Haha...who know that maybe on the coming 2013 budget, government will give us suprise.....

haha.....pls prepare ohhhhh....maybe will coming neh.....

Haha...since u hv K5 and kukulong got camry.....maybe can have a test.....

How about this 3 incidents related to Airbag issue for year 2012.

1) TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2012 TOYOTA CAMRY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT ANOTHER VEHICLE DROVE IN FRONT OF HER AND SHE CRASHED INTO THE SIDE OF THAT VEHICLE WHILE DRIVING 40 MPH. NONE OF THE AIR BAGS DEPLOYED DURING THE CRASH. THE CONTACT SUFFERED FROM SORENESS IN HER NECK DUE TO THE CRASH. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO A REPAIR SHOP WHERE IT WAS BEING INSPECTED. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 6,200.

Number of Injuries: 1


2) ON APRIL 30TH 2012 MY CAMRY 2012 WAS HIT AS I WAS MAKING A UTURN TO PICK UP MY SON FROM SCHOOL 35 MPH /UPON IMPACT THE CAR DID NOT STOP, WENT OVER THE MEDIAN, INTO THE BUSH AREA, AT THE MEANTIME I TRIED TO PUT THE CAR IN PARK, THE CAR DID NOT STOP, TURNED OFF THE ENGINE, THE CAR DID NOT STOP, THE CAR DID NOT PICK UP SPEED, THE WHOLE TIME I WAS BREAKING BUT THE CAR WOULD NOT STOP, IT FINALLY CAME TO FULL STOP UPON IMPACTING A TREE. THE POLICE CAME AND FILLED A REPORT. WAS SURPRISED TO SEE MY CAR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD BY A TREE. MY CAR WAS TAKEN TO TOYOTA COLLISION CENTER IN ARLINGTON TX. IT TOOK THEM 31 DAYS TO FIX A BRAND NEW CAMRY 2012 THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN 2 WEEKS ACCORDING TO THEM. THEY TELL ME THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR. I HAVE DRIVEN CAMRYS FOR MORE THAN 2 DECADES. I KNOW IF THERE IS A PROBLEM. I CONTACTED TOYOTA CORPORATE, THEY HAVE SENT AN ENGINEER SPECIALIST TO CHECK THE CAR. THEY ARE NOT DISCLOSING ANY INFORMATION TO ME, THEY SAY YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL YOU RECEIVE IN MAIL. ACCORDING TO THEIR ENGINEER SPECIALIST, HE SAYS THE RECORDING BOX(SOMETHING NEW WITH NEW CAMRYS) THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE COLLISION RECORDED. THERE WAS A TIME LAPSE! I HAVE NOT PICKED UP MY CAR BECAUSE I TOTALLY FEEL UNSAFE WITH THAT CAR!!! THIS HAD NEVER HAPPENED TO ME!!! NO ONE ON EARTH CAN TELL ME THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT CAR. I ALMOST HIT MY SON AND HIS FRIEND!!! THE LAWYERS TELL ME SINCE I HAVE NOT HURT ANYONE AND GOTTEN HURT MYSELF, THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS CASE! I FEEL IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS IN THE HIGHWAY AND I KILL SOMEONE OR MYSELF, THEN LAWYERS AND TOYOTA WILL DO SOMETHING. I NEED HELP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

Number of Injuries: 0

3. I WAS DRIVING APROX 30 MPH WHEN A FORD F150 TRUCK RAN A STOP SIGN AND I T BONED THEM. NONE OF THE AIRBAGS DEPLOYED. IT HIT HARD ENOUGH TO BREAK THE WINDSHIELD. *TR

Number of Injuries: 3

Sorry i more concern on safety side when involved in accident.

IMO nobody can 100% sure the root cause of the accident, even Toyota specialist oso cannot.

Keep argue on this point is useless, better we discuss on which safety features was provided to save our life when involving in accident.