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BlueBean
post Aug 13 2011, 09:29 PM

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yeah, touch the ground, releasing any tension. so do you guys face this problem? people coming up to you telling what's wrong and you know it's not

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post Aug 13 2011, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBean @ Aug 13 2011, 09:29 PM)
yeah, touch the ground, releasing any tension. so do you guys face this problem? people coming up to you telling what's wrong and you know it's not


Added on August 13, 2011, 9:34 pmi'm not being a d***, in fact i'm open to proper corrections, for eg. there was once a trainer who asked me to deadlift without bending my knee?? that is definitely asking for injury
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Thats either a straight leg deadlift or a romanian
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post Aug 13 2011, 10:02 PM

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For deadlift:

If the weights touch the ground briefly = normal deadlift
If the weights do not touch the ground = Romanian deadlift
If u deadlift without bending the knees = stiffed leg deadlift, mainly for hamstring.

No one is wrong here. Just make sure form is not.

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post Aug 13 2011, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBean @ Aug 13 2011, 09:29 PM)
yeah, touch the ground, releasing any tension. so do you guys face this problem? people coming up to you telling what's wrong and you know it's not


Added on August 13, 2011, 9:34 pmi'm not being a d***, in fact i'm open to proper corrections, for eg. there was once a trainer who asked me to deadlift without bending my knee?? that is definitely asking for injury
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if you're doing for bodybuilding purpose
then your trainer is correct
mikehuan
post Aug 13 2011, 11:08 PM

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excerpt from a tnation article:

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There's no law against pausing on the floor between each rep to "gather" yourself, get your air, re-establish a good back position, activate the lats, and perform a crisp rep.


http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...out_deadlifting
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post Aug 13 2011, 11:21 PM

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Guys, he was talking about the rest between REPS, not the way to lift the weight. Just lift the damn weight.

I reset after every rep.

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post Aug 13 2011, 11:45 PM

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http://tnation.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/1328
http://tnation.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/1331

to those familiar with Prof X from the tnation forums. the videos of him in a training lab with Christian Thibaudeau for the indigo 3g project. Another huge mofo, and even more impressive considering hes a natural..
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post Aug 14 2011, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Aug 13 2011, 09:58 PM)
Thats either a straight leg deadlift or a romanian
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i believe he was referring to straight leg at that time

QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 13 2011, 10:02 PM)
For deadlift:

No one is wrong here. Just make sure form is not.
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agreed, but the trainer keep insisting there's no such thing as briefly touching the floor.
i told him that i'm not saying that he's wrong and asked him politely to check the internet for more info regarding pausing/restarting, but he replied saying that the internet are full of bullshits (i do agree partially but there's a lot of credible source around eg. startingstrength)

QUOTE(mikehuan @ Aug 13 2011, 11:08 PM)
thanks for the info


Added on August 14, 2011, 8:39 pm
QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Aug 13 2011, 11:21 PM)
Guys, he was talking about the rest between REPS, not the way to lift the weight. Just lift the damn weight.

I reset after every rep.
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sweet and short, thanks

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post Aug 14 2011, 08:53 PM

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I.usually touch the floor briefly for normal... stiff.leg wun touch... bcoz I cant bend that much
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post Aug 14 2011, 08:56 PM

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He's probably thinking that if you drop the weight down you'd lose tension on your working muscles or he thinks it's dangerous to continuously lift dead weights or he's ignorant
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post Aug 14 2011, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Aug 14 2011, 08:56 PM)
He's probably thinking that if you drop the weight down you'd lose tension on your working muscles or he thinks it's dangerous to continuously lift dead weights or he's ignorant
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yeah, that's what he said. that if i drop the weight it would lose the point of lifting
i don't know if he's being ignorant or what but he's telling me he's been lifting for years and he has a cert that can be used all around the world and have never seen ppl restarting between reps


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post Aug 14 2011, 10:10 PM

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Well, the bottom line is, he's a trainer, not your boss. If he doesn't like the variation of the exercise you're doing (provided your form is good and all), he really can't make you do anything.
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post Aug 14 2011, 10:26 PM

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tumpang tanya here...
anyone here who done hst cycle b4 willing to give some feedback.. how was it?

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post Aug 14 2011, 11:05 PM

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Oh, and since everyone was posting food a while back, here's dinner today:

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statikinetic
post Aug 14 2011, 11:17 PM

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Sooner or later someone is gonna start a food thread biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBean @ Aug 13 2011, 08:51 PM)
hi guys, just started lifting few weeks ago
one question here, to restart or not between reps of deadlift/barbell row. i know that it's better to restart between reps
the trainer at my gym, came up to me saying i was doing it wrong. that the deadlift/barbell row should be done without restarting, tried to explain to him the reason but he started telling all his cert and qualifications..
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wait, BB row? you mean you're dropping the weights on the floor for BB rows for every rep?

are you briefly touching the floor for DL or restarting at every rep, ie, doing singles continuously? probably a video would be nice so we are at the same page here.
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post Aug 14 2011, 11:32 PM

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First time I'm seeing a deload on barbell rows. On the DL it's pretty normal though.
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post Aug 14 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 14 2011, 11:32 PM)
First time I'm seeing a deload on barbell rows. On the DL it's pretty normal though.
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I remember it call pendlay row ..
more towards strength

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post Aug 14 2011, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 14 2011, 11:17 PM)
Sooner or later someone is gonna start a food thread biggrin.gif
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Then I'll start posting Snowflakes, BR30, Cendol Ais etc desserts. LOLx.

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im downing my whey and off to sleep later...

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