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 Digital TV Station Malaysia, How do I tune to digital TV station?

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post Oct 28 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Oct 28 2017, 02:23 AM)
Agree that TV3 HD has a great picture when they broadcast native HD content (Maybe due to very good encoders used on MYTV, since they managed to broadcast HD pictures on just 2.5Mbps when MYTV does some testing for TVAlhjirah/Test Channel HD 798 when the channel exists who have softer pictures.) Audio is only in an acceptable level.
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The most important is the video encoder's settings they use, not necessarily the encoder itself.

Broadcasters (e.g. Media Prima) can't just set the bitrate too high, as this will result in higher cost to them as they have to pay more money for bandwidth. Cuz if video bitrate is too high, means one frequency mux (e.g. 666MHz) can accommodate lesser channels. The lower the bitrate, the more channels can be accommodated in one frequency. This also explains why they use the current most advanced, bandwidth efficient audio codec, HE-AAC version 2, where good quality audio is possible with a pretty low bitrate at 32kbps Stereo. I can see that they're trying their very best to use lowest bitrate settings possible while offering great image and audio quality.

It's not 2.5Mbps for Full HD... If it's 2.5Mbps, you will see poor video quality when there's fast moving scenes. 2.5Mbps is too low for Full HD resolution video. 4.5Mbps for Full HD, is also acceptable level (to me), same goes to audio.

If you guys want to compare the image quality difference, make sure the content itself that is airing is in HD quality. If the programme is in SD, wait till the next programme. Don't jump to conclusion immediately when you see it's SD.
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post Oct 28 2017, 11:21 AM

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What I have been noticing so far for TV3 HD is that live shows like news are aired in HD, while dramas are generally still in SD (these are new drama series though). In addition, some programmes still use HE-AAC1 audio.

Picture quality wise, TV3 HD cannot beat Astro HD. In comparison, Astro HD > TV3 HD > TV AL-Hijrah HD.
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post Oct 28 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Oct 28 2017, 10:25 AM)
The most important is the video encoder's settings they use, not necessarily the encoder itself.

Broadcasters (e.g. Media Prima) can't just set the bitrate too high, as this will result in higher cost to them as they have to pay more money for bandwidth. Cuz if video bitrate is too high, means one frequency mux (e.g. 666MHz) can accommodate lesser channels. The lower the bitrate, the more channels can be accommodated in one frequency. This also explains why they use the current most advanced, bandwidth efficient audio codec, HE-AAC version 2, where good quality audio is possible with a pretty low bitrate at 32kbps Stereo. I can see that they're trying their very best to use lowest bitrate settings possible while offering great image and audio quality.

It's not 2.5Mbps for Full HD... If it's 2.5Mbps, you will see poor video quality when there's fast moving scenes. 2.5Mbps is too low for Full HD resolution video. 4.5Mbps for Full HD, is also acceptable level (to me), same goes to audio.

If you guys want to compare the image quality difference, make sure the content itself that is airing is in HD quality. If the programme is in SD, wait till the next programme. Don't jump to conclusion immediately when you see it's SD.
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Which reminds us, anyone else didn't notice #106 audio lacks clarity compared with other channels? hmm.gif

Also they stated that they're in HD, but currently in SD only for now.

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Oct 28 2017, 05:17 PM
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post Oct 28 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Oct 28 2017, 10:25 AM)
The most important is the video encoder's settings they use, not necessarily the encoder itself.

Broadcasters (e.g. Media Prima) can't just set the bitrate too high, as this will result in higher cost to them as they have to pay more money for bandwidth. Cuz if video bitrate is too high, means one frequency mux (e.g. 666MHz) can accommodate lesser channels. The lower the bitrate, the more channels can be accommodated in one frequency. This also explains why they use the current most advanced, bandwidth efficient audio codec, HE-AAC version 2, where good quality audio is possible with a pretty low bitrate at 32kbps Stereo. I can see that they're trying their very best to use lowest bitrate settings possible while offering great image and audio quality.

It's not 2.5Mbps for Full HD... If it's 2.5Mbps, you will see poor video quality when there's fast moving scenes. 2.5Mbps is too low for Full HD resolution video. 4.5Mbps for Full HD, is also acceptable level (to me), same goes to audio.

If you guys want to compare the image quality difference, make sure the content itself that is airing is in HD quality. If the programme is in SD, wait till the next programme. Don't jump to conclusion immediately when you see it's SD.
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My fault. I do mention the breakup of the TVAH test channel service in the past which is quite frequent and the picture is quite poor. 2.5Mbps HD is perhaps some "stress test" done on their encoders.

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post Oct 28 2017, 09:56 PM

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But regardless, whatever picture/audio quality we see or hear from MYTV (myFreeview) are already been processed/encoded by MYTV side, no longer original from channel provider (e.g. Media Prima).

For example, even if Media Prima provide the original HD channel feed to MYTV with the video bitrate of 10Mbps, MYTV will still encode to the bitrate as they want (e.g. average 4.5Mbps). Same goes to audio.

QUOTE(Qash-M @ Oct 28 2017, 04:06 PM)
Which reminds us, anyone else didn't notice #106 audio lacks clarity compared with other channels? hmm.gif

Also they stated that they're in HD, but currently in SD only for now.
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CJ Wow channel is still HE-AAC v2 at 32kbps Stereo on MYTV, and yes, I do notice that the audio quality on this channel is very poor.
From what I see, the problem is from Media Prima's side, not MYTV.

Well after all, there's "SIARAN UJIAN" watermark on top corner, so no need to be surprised when problems like this occur lo...

And you're right, this particular ad airs on CJ Wow Shop channel mention that the channel is now available in High Definition and broadcasts in 24 hours on MYTV.
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But do note that as of now, CJ Wow channel on MYTV is still in SD.

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post Oct 29 2017, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(stinky @ Oct 28 2017, 02:33 AM)
Hi.
I have a Panasonic 60C430K tv and has DVBT2. But I cannot tune to HD channel in Menjalara KL.

Any reason?  I live in condo.

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Buy a new antenna.

If possible outdoor antenna.

If you live in condo, this antenna very good for you.

https://www.lazada.com.my/digital-uhf-anten....658ff4a34xqjfz

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post Oct 29 2017, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(stinky @ Oct 28 2017, 02:42 AM)
Hi did it work with indoor antenna?
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You will need an indoor antenna and aim abit after you set the proper settings.

You need to find the settings screen on the tv tuner which shows signal strength and quality
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post Oct 30 2017, 10:05 PM

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EPG for Media Prima channels messed up again. This time the EPG shown being 1 hours earlier than the actual schedule.
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post Oct 30 2017, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Oct 30 2017, 10:05 PM)
EPG for Media Prima channels messed up again. This time the EPG shown being 1 hours earlier than the actual schedule.
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Media Prima likes to do lots of test, I think...
Be patient, just ignore the EPG.
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post Oct 31 2017, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Oct 30 2017, 10:42 PM)
Media Prima likes to do lots of test, I think...
Be patient, just ignore the EPG.
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It is way too unreliable. They can't even provide a proper show information for DTT like what RTM does.
Thats why I sometimes prefer to use Astro's published schedule/programme indicator to know the actual programme shown.
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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Oct 27 2017, 12:38 AM)
update
104-drama sangat
105-TV3 HD
106-cj wow
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Need to retune to get new channels, or will they automatically appear? I haven't turned on my TV in 2 weeks.... tongue.gif
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post Oct 31 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Oct 30 2017, 10:05 PM)
EPG for Media Prima channels messed up again. This time the EPG shown being 1 hours earlier than the actual schedule.
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No surprise at all..
Always doing some test.. Really unreliable shakehead.gif
I think only next year would be stable...
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post Oct 31 2017, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 31 2017, 10:56 AM)
No surprise at all..
Always doing some test.. Really unreliable shakehead.gif
I think only next year would be stable...
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If have complains, just do it on MYTV FB message. Quite responsive. whistling.gif
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post Oct 31 2017, 06:25 PM

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Already stated on screen show you "Siaran Ujian MyFreeview".

Siaran Ujian = Test Broadcast.

Not officially made available yet. Next year see if TV3 start to promote TV3 is now available in HD on MYTV or not. Or wait analog transmission to switch off first.

We also not see TV1 HD & TV2 HD start to test broadcast yet. Might aswell wait them to start HD transmission. yawn.gif yawn.gif
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post Oct 31 2017, 06:35 PM

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TV1 HD & TV2 HD needs to wait for how long??

next year whistling.gif
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post Oct 31 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Oct 31 2017, 05:50 PM)
If have complains, just do it on MYTV FB message. Quite responsive. whistling.gif
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Oh really..

I remembered someone said they give general reply only..
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post Nov 1 2017, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 31 2017, 10:39 PM)
Oh really..

I remembered someone said they give general reply only..
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Responsive in giving general reply 😂😂😂😂
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 1 2017, 01:01 AM)
Responsive in giving general reply 😂😂😂😂
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The CS is not knowledgeable like u tongue.gif
So just give standard general reply only...
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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Oct 27 2017, 08:50 PM)
Look Go Shop ch120.
Seems like they don't want to migrate to MPEG4 yet. yawn.gif yawn.gif
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Maybe if they planning to migrate to MPEG-5 or something...
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QUOTE(Low Li Hao @ Nov 1 2017, 04:16 PM)
Maybe if they planning to migrate to MPEG-5 or something...
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

won't be anytime soon

astro always very slow in adapting new technology standards

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