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post Oct 19 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Oct 19 2017, 10:05 PM)
AFAIK, Having to deal with the Kodi wrapper (piece of additional software to assist the Kodi app), potential crashes/hangs and audio passthrough issues.. I also vaguely remember some comment about loading srt files saved alongside the video file.
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wrapper is only used if one INSIST on playback with kodi.

some do, some don't.

i don't. becos the native player is much faster.

kodi streams, no audio pass thru, just 2.0, still waiting on a fix.

that's all. everything else works fine with kodi.

i wouldn't call that a hiccup.

loading srt... i hv never seen this problem, whether kodi online subs or native player or with kodi+wrapper.
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post Oct 19 2017, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 19 2017, 06:16 PM)
well... if u do not play bdmv, it's irrelevant, no need.

if u do, that is  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
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post Oct 19 2017, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 19 2017, 10:18 PM)
wrapper is only used if one INSIST on playback with kodi.

some do, some don't.

i don't. becos the native player is much faster.

kodi streams, no audio pass thru, just 2.0, still waiting on a fix.

that's all. everything else works fine with kodi.

i wouldn't call that a hiccup.

loading srt... i hv never seen this problem, whether kodi online subs or native player or with kodi+wrapper.
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Hiccup, bug, ... semantics.. It's not a +ve feature.. All good.. That's why I kept quiet and tagged you in the first place, as you have the device and are familiar with Kodi too.. Can at your convenience see if the prior issues have been rectified or not..
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post Oct 22 2017, 12:10 PM

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came across this article, good.

detailed description on what is UHD for a display which is not just 4K.

of course, the best display can only be obtained with the highest specs of the TV, the player and the source.

(and the AVR as well, if applicable.)

q10pro is rated UHD - 4k, 60fps, 10bit, HDR10, ycbcr 444.

but is not dolby vision 12 bit (dolby not granting license yet).

i have played many files of such specs, no problem.

3840x2160 or even 1920x1080 BMDV's come out quite stunning!

to get the max out of these advanced features, u not only need the player and the source, but a tv that is rated uhd 4k HDR.

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Then we get more technical, and explain some of the aspects of UHD:

4K resolution
Wide color gamut
Color bit depth
Color subsampling
HDMI versions
HDCP
HDMI data rates
HDMI cables
Display certification standards
HDR


What UHD Sources are there?

At this point a few hardware options:

UHD Blu Ray players, such as the new Samsung UBD-K8500. You can buy discs for around $30 from Amazon or Best Buy right now in the US!
Kaleidescape Strato – these players can download UHD content from the Kaleidescape store. The movies are created directly from master files received from the content creators and are not simple copies of UHD Blu Ray discs…in fact there is more UHD content on the store than there is currently UHD Blu Rays! The Strato supports HDR10 but not Dolby Vision, as well as the lossless audio codecs and Dolby Atmos.
Sony FMP-X10 player, which we believe is end-of-life and does not support HDR.
Kaleidescape Strato

Then there are the streaming services, which can be accessed from many hardware devices such as the those built into your TV, Roku 4K player, Amazon FireTV2, Nvidia Shield, etc.

Vudu
Netflix,
Amazon
Ultraflix
M-GO
YouTube
Sony’s forthcoming “Ultra” service

For a comprehensive list of sources and available content, see the “Master List of 4K“… thread over at AVSForum.com.

Note that most of the streaming services have compressed audio soundtracks, even the ones advertising Dolby Atmos like Vudu. Since high performance home theater is about video and audio, that only leaves two sources of note: UHD Blu Ray and Kaleidescape’s Store. For more read My Search for Higher-Quality Soundtracks in Streaming Movies.

What is the Ultra HD Blu Ray specification?

The Ultra HD Blu Ray spec is as follows (see the rest of this article for details on how to “decipher” these acronyms):

Up to 4K resolution
4:2:0 color sub-sampling
Up to 10 bit color
Up to 60 frames per second
Support for wide color gamuts (REC.2020)
Support for HDR10 and Dolby Vision
No 3D support
HDCP2.2

Ultra HD Blu Ray

As many of these specifications are optional it seems that just because a disc is labeled Ultra HD Blu Ray does not mean it will have HDR, a wide color gamut or 10 bit color. Hopefully UHD Blu Ray players will have some kind of signal information menu to reveal what is actually on the disc.

Note also that many of the movies announced for release on UHD Blu Ray so far were actually not shot at 4K resolution! See this article for some insightful analysis.

What capabilities does my display need to enjoy UHD content?

HDMI2.0 / HDCP2.2
. First and foremost you need a display capable of receiving a HDMI2.0 / HDCP2.2 signal. Unfortunately for consumers some early TVs sold as 4K capable do not have the required HDMI2.0 / HDCP2.2 inputs!
4K resolution. UHD is 4x the resolution of HDTV, typically 3840×2160 (2160p), although the Sony PJs have slightly larger, since they use imaging chips derived from their cinema projectors.

Whilst not strictly necessary for UHD your display may also have:

Wide color gamut (WCG).  HDTV and Blu-Rays are mastered and distributed in the REC.709 color gamut. With UHD content can be distributed in either the REC.709 or REC.2020 color gamuts. If REC.2020 is used that does not necessarily mean the content has been created using such a wide color gamut. We expect most of the “wide color gamut” content for the next few years to actually have a color gamut similar to the commercial cinema P3 space. REC.2020 can, in this instance, be considered as the container, rather than necessarily the actual color gamut of the encoded content. With this being said, your display must accept a REC.2020 signal to display WCG content. Apparently some displays released to date such as the Sony VPL-VW1100ES do not accept REC.2020 even though they are marketed as being able to reproduce a color gamut approaching P3. Confusing, we know, but that is the state of things with respect to 4K / UHD in 2016!

High dynamic range (HDR). This is the ability to display images with highlights that are much brighter than today. These highlights are used for things like reflections off cars. Content has to be specifically mastered for HDR, so not all UHD content will necessarily be HDR. There are also at least three competing standards for HDR, including HDR10 and Dolby Vision and no broadcast standard. There’s also a new gamma curve (more correctly an electro-optical transfer function or EOTF), SMPTE ST2084. Whilst the UHD Alliance has mandated brightness standards for TVs there are no such standards for projectors. In addition whilst there is a mastering standard for HDR (1000 nit for HDR10) there is no standard or accepted practice for how to scale to the output levels that your display is capable of. Suffice to say it is early days for HDR!

Things there are confusion over with respect to UHD displays:

18Gbps. This may be required if content makers start releasing movies with high frame rates. 4K @ 60 frames per second may require 18Gbps data rates if it is at bit depths of 10 or 12 bits. Otherwise 10.2Gbps is fine, even for 4K60 at 8 bit!
12 bit color. This refers to the color bit-depth. Old Blu-Ray is 8 bit, new UHD Blu Ray can support 10 bit. It’s not clear what bit depth is being used by the streaming services, but it’s probably 8 bit.
4:4:4.  This refers to color sub-sampling. Whilst 4:4:4 is used in content mastering, UHD is distributed via 4:2:0.
3D. There is no UHD 3D at this time, at least via Blu Ray.
http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/uhd-101-v2/


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post Oct 23 2017, 12:21 PM

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Hi sifus, would like to know himedia q5pro worth to get? Was using xiaomi mibox 3 enhanced version for 2years and now it seems quite laggy especially when using kodi. it will got freeze and the wireless connection seems bad even tho my router just next to it.

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d...d=3136132696860

the provided is from taobao, planning to get it on taobao double 11 event. I had asked the seller, they said they will install google playstore, google play services and root for me.

Wondering is it a good to go?
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post Oct 23 2017, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:21 PM)
Hi sifus, would like to know himedia q5pro worth to get? Was using xiaomi mibox 3 enhanced version for 2years and now it seems quite laggy especially when using kodi. it will got freeze and the wireless connection seems bad even tho my router just next to it.

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d...d=3136132696860

the provided is from taobao, planning to get it on taobao double 11 event. I had asked the seller, they said they will install google playstore, google play services and root for me.

Wondering is it a good to go?
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what do u use the box for, mainly?
what app(s) used most?
use for playback and what type of files u play?
what audio quality u need?


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post Oct 23 2017, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 23 2017, 05:03 PM)
what do u use the box for, mainly?
what app(s) used most?
use for playback and what type of files u play?
what audio quality u need?
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I am quite new to this

My parents mainly used to watch live stream like 电视家 3.0 or some online movie app (电视猫,千寻)

I mainly use for kodi on hk drama

I saw some China website having 4K movie files to download. So now planning to use this tv box to play the 4K video file.

About the audio quality I am not really sure but I see my homer theatre has the 7.1 Dolby surround sound, so I hope can fully utilise it
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post Oct 23 2017, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 23 2017, 07:40 PM)
I am quite new to this

My parents mainly used to watch live stream like 电视家 3.0 or some online movie app (电视猫,千寻)

I mainly use for kodi on hk drama

I saw some China website having 4K movie files to download. So now planning to use this tv box to play the 4K video file.

About the audio quality I am not really sure but I see my homer theatre has the 7.1 Dolby surround sound, so I hope can fully utilise it
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Q10 Pro.. nod.gif
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post Oct 23 2017, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 23 2017, 07:40 PM)
I am quite new to this

My parents mainly used to watch live stream like 电视家 3.0 or some online movie app (电视猫,千寻)

I mainly use for kodi on hk drama

I saw some China website having 4K movie files to download. So now planning to use this tv box to play the 4K video file.

About the audio quality I am not really sure but I see my homer theatre has the 7.1 Dolby surround sound, so I hope can fully utilise it
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since u mentioned 2 china apps, i assume u know where to get such apps and how to get them to work.

i suggest u get moli, cibn, mango - all the good china stuff! biggrin.gif

i also assume u know where to get n how to install firmware updates, app updates, etc.

and yes, they all work very well with q5pro or q10pro.

kodi hk drama... r u referring to icdrama?

u can continue to use it smoothly or u can use icdrama rss reader app - i find this better - faster, easier to navigate.

online streams typically do not hv great audio, but if u do playback, q5pro can give u the best audio and video output - bluray, 4k, 10 bit, hevc, hdr, dtshdma, dtsx, ddtruehd, ddatmos... if u do not playback such files, the feature is "wasted".

in short, yes, q5pro will be good for your needs.

q10pro is the big brother of q5pro - has more storage space and an internal HDD slot; else, the same.

q5pro with less storage is not a problem unless u install a hundreds apps or so.




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post Oct 23 2017, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 23 2017, 08:26 PM)
since u mentioned 2 china apps, i assume u know where to get such apps and how to get them to work.

i suggest u get moli, cibn, mango - all the good china stuff! biggrin.gif

i also assume u know where to get n how to install firmware updates, app updates, etc.

and yes, they all work very well with q5pro or q10pro.

kodi hk drama... r u referring to icdrama?

u can continue to use it smoothly or u can use icdrama rss reader app - i find this better - faster, easier to navigate.

online streams typically do not hv great audio, but if u do playback, q5pro can give u the best audio and video output - bluray, 4k, 10 bit, hevc, hdr, dtshdma, dtsx, ddtruehd, ddatmos... if u do not playback such files, the feature is "wasted".

in short, yes, q5pro will be good for your needs.

q10pro is the big brother of q5pro - has more storage space and an internal HDD slot; else, the same.

q5pro with less storage is not a problem unless u install a hundreds apps or so.
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Bro, ur assumption are right but I have a concern.

If I downloaded those 4K movie, I have no idea how to play it 😅 the website i see is 4k123.com

Can u teach me
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post Oct 23 2017, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 23 2017, 10:31 PM)
Bro, ur assumption are right but I have a concern.

If I downloaded those 4K movie, I have no idea how to play it 😅 the website i see is 4k123.com

Can u teach me
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i do not know that website, but looks like a forum only..?

some of those china apps offer 4k stuff bur are heavily ripped, poor audio.

see, a good 4k video will require >100mbps speed to stream online due to huge files size requiring a very high bitrate.

but if u can DL them, it should be done with a pc, copy it to hdd and play with box.

it is also possible to set up to download with box with hdd attached but navigation, control and file management is usually clumsy.

details, i can't tell u as i do not use that one.

DL matters... i prefer not to dwell on it in public.
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QUOTE(GuyM @ Oct 9 2017, 10:23 PM)
Damned! This is genuine seller...  LC marketing
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Price went back up to 580
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The Q5 Pro is on offer now at rm450.26 fr LC Marketing.

As the Q10 already went back to 580, I'm seriously considering the q5 pro mainly to play the downloaded 4K movies from external Hdd.
For Netflix, Youtube, Kodi etc my ue630X already have it covered but I'm not that pleased with the native movie player in my TV when playing 4K movies
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QUOTE(widget @ Oct 24 2017, 08:30 AM)
The Q5 Pro is on offer now at rm450.26 fr LC Marketing.

As the Q10 already went back to 580, I'm seriously considering the q5 pro mainly to play the downloaded 4K movies from external Hdd.
For Netflix, Youtube, Kodi etc my ue630X already have it covered but I'm not that pleased with the native movie player in my TV when playing 4K movies
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the tv player is basic, much like mx or vlc player.

big diff between tv player and q5pro native player.

diff is more obvious when playing bluray 1080p or 4k.

not just video, but audio... the tv arc can't handle hd audio for home theater.

wherever u buy, make sure u hv the current firmware with full bluray menu.


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Can the Q5Pro stream movie/content from the NAS ?

I check at their website. Only show Q10pro stream from NAS but not Q5pro.
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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:21 PM)
Hi sifus, would like to know himedia q5pro worth to get? Was using xiaomi mibox 3 enhanced version for 2years and now it seems quite laggy especially when using kodi. it will got freeze and the wireless connection seems bad even tho my router just next to it.

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d...d=3136132696860

the provided is from taobao, planning to get it on taobao double 11 event. I had asked the seller, they said they will install google playstore, google play services and root for me.

Wondering is it a good to go?
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QUOTE(widget @ Oct 24 2017, 08:30 AM)
The Q5 Pro is on offer now at rm450.26 fr LC Marketing.

As the Q10 already went back to 580, I'm seriously considering the q5 pro mainly to play the downloaded 4K movies from external Hdd.
For Netflix, Youtube, Kodi etc my ue630X already have it covered but I'm not that pleased with the native movie player in my TV when playing 4K movies
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My used Q5 is on sale at LYN's "Garage Sale" section for a good price smile.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 24 2017, 10:50 AM)
Can the Q5Pro stream movie/content from the NAS ?

I check at their website. Only show Q10pro stream from NAS but not Q5pro.
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Can, no problem.
Even my old Himedia HD910B also can stream from NAS.
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Oct 24 2017, 10:56 AM)
Can, no problem.
Even my old Himedia HD910B also can stream from NAS.
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Thanks. smile.gif

Than I just get Q5Pro.
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Oct 24 2017, 10:55 AM)
My used Q5 is on sale at LYN's "Garage Sale" section for a good price  smile.gif
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Thanks for telling but prefer to get a new one 😅
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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 24 2017, 01:37 PM)
Thanks for telling but prefer to get a new one 😅
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