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 °° LYN Honda Insight Owners Thread V2 °°, The Power Of Hybrid. Owners Welcome !

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watonk
post Apr 19 2011, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Apr 19 2011, 07:24 AM)
bad news..... like that existing hybrid car resell value lower.  sad.gif
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I think its the other way round. Extended tax exemption will enable more units to be sold, better support and parts availability, better exposure of the models to the public (more people will test their friends or their aunt or their grandfather's Insight and found that the Insight is reliable and really save fuel), results in higher demand for 2nd hand unit.

If very limited units sold (only ours few thousand units), service & parts limited, lots of people dont know and dont have the chance to test its frugality, Insight will become niche, less demand, lower resale value.

The best if later Honda assemble the car here, parts will become even cheaper, even if Insight as popular as Myvi, ours will become really precious as its a CBU unit. See Jazz CBU 2003-2004 now still fetch above rm50k albeit very old car.

This post has been edited by watonk: Apr 19 2011, 10:07 AM
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post Apr 19 2011, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Apr 19 2011, 09:53 AM)
Lets count. 4 items. RM1100. Let say they are each evenly priced at rm275 each:

Footwell light: Not worth it. U can buy any led (Less than rm50), tap illumination and put there.
Trunk tray: Not really worth it. Outside can get around RM150-200 if have, with similar quality.
Sports pedal: Could be worth it. Ori Momo pedals also cost similar.
Sidestep: Worth it. Got molded plastics and chrome plating with Hybrid wording. The rear one seems too small however. If got outside also not very nice & normally just fabricated from sheet metal without plastic part.

The non-worth package surely modulo kit at 4.5k without front grill or spoiler.
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I think this way of evaluation of price for each item is not very accurate and fair becos not ever item priced the same. As it is package. Actually according to my experience in buying individual accessory to my NHC last time I would insight beta package price is not bad already, becos all are original stuff


Added on April 19, 2011, 10:10 am
QUOTE(watonk @ Apr 19 2011, 10:02 AM)
I think its the other way round. Extended tax exemption will enable more units to be sold, better support and parts availability, better exposure of the models to the public (more people will test their friends or their aunt or their grandfather's Insight and found that the Insight is reliable and really save fuel), results in higher demand for 2nd hand unit.

If very limited units sold (only ours few thousand units), service & parts limited, lots of people dont know and dont have the chance to test its frugality, Insight will become niche, less demand, lower resale value.

The best if later Honda assemble the car here, parts will become even cheaper, even if Insight as popular as Myvi, ours will become really precious as its a CBU unit. See Jazz CBU 2003-2004 now still fetch above rm50k albeit very old car.
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Ic. that's the good thing to hear abt.

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post Apr 19 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Apr 19 2011, 09:58 AM)
Hi guys

i plugged in my thumbdrive (which has mp3 inside) but it shows "unsupported" Anyone encountered this?
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16GB right ? hmm.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif
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post Apr 19 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Apr 19 2011, 10:07 AM)
I think this way of evaluation of price for each item is not very accurate and fair becos not ever item priced the same. As it is package. Actually according to my experience in buying individual accessory to my NHC last time I would insight beta package price is not bad already, becos all are original stuff


Added on April 19, 2011, 10:10 am

Ic. that's the good thing to hear abt.
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I purposely mislead the pricing to justify my sidestep purchase. Haha. tongue.gif

My insight for next year, tax exemption will still here. However, when Proton, Perodua or Naza (local players) market their own hybrid, they will re-impose the tax.

Honda will have to increase the price to let say, 130k. But to keep competing in hybrid market, by then they will include features like trunk light (&$(%#!!), auto door lock (^#(&$$!!), pedal shifters, reverse camera, better sound system maybe navi unit, more choices of colours, auto hatch release, real 'keyless' entry and push start button. They might even push the engine to 1.5 IMA with higher capacity motor and battery with extended full electric range. Not to forget, motorized AC.
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QUOTE(watonk @ Apr 19 2011, 10:02 AM)
I think its the other way round. Extended tax exemption will enable more units to be sold, better support and parts availability, better exposure of the models to the public (more people will test their friends or their aunt or their grandfather's Insight and found that the Insight is reliable and really save fuel), results in higher demand for 2nd hand unit.

If very limited units sold (only ours few thousand units), service & parts limited, lots of people dont know and dont have the chance to test its frugality, Insight will become niche, less demand, lower resale value.

The best if later Honda assemble the car here, parts will become even cheaper, even if Insight as popular as Myvi, ours will become really precious as its a CBU unit. See Jazz CBU 2003-2004 now still fetch above rm50k albeit very old car.
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totally agree...when parts & maintenance are cheaper, there will be more buying demand which would subsequently boost up the resale value..

i had just met an car accident on my insight ytd... vmad.gif due to the stupid faulty traffic light..
my bumper was dented...went to honda service center and consult the service advisor
was being told that bumper replacement would simply cost above 2k and the lead time for shipping is unknown (could take up to 1-2 months)...luckily, the advisor said that there is no crack (CBU made bumpers were tough) and the dented part would be easily being repaired by knocking and respraying the paint which would cost roughly RM 550

if there is no local assemble parts, i think the future resale value of this car would be very low..
if you are the 2nd hand buyer, would you want to get through such a hassle for parts replacement? not to mention that the price for the spare parts are neither decent ...
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post Apr 19 2011, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(n00b123 @ Apr 19 2011, 10:36 AM)
totally agree...when parts & maintenance are cheaper, there will be more buying demand which would subsequently boost up the resale value..

i had just met an car accident on my insight ytd... vmad.gif due to the stupid faulty traffic light..
my bumper was dented...went to honda service center and consult the service advisor
was being told that bumper replacement would simply cost above 2k and the lead time for shipping is unknown (could take up to 1-2 months)...luckily, the advisor said that there is no crack (CBU made bumpers were tough) and the dented part would be easily being repaired by knocking and respraying the paint which would cost roughly RM 550

if there is no local assemble parts, i think the future resale value of this car would be very low..
if you are the 2nd hand buyer, would you want to get through such a hassle for parts replacement? not to mention that the price for the spare parts are neither decent ...
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sorry to hear tat u having small accident.
btw, the part so expensive?
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post Apr 19 2011, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Apr 18 2011, 05:58 PM)
Nice plant. Will it die when ECON mode off? laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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doh.gif yaloo.. never think of that before.. hahaha


Added on April 19, 2011, 10:58 am
QUOTE(Happyman @ Apr 18 2011, 09:00 PM)
So far only Mardzi, Orbclyne and me have this "problem", well, it might not be a problem, hopefully.

You guys can try, turn off the radio, air cond speed at the lowest, then you accelerate and see if you hear any grinding sound or not.  I only notice this after my first service last week, hope its normal.  I am not sure if its from the motor, but it sound like grinding or something spinning.

My ride now very comfortable, quiet and soft after reduce the pressure from 315kpa to 230kpa front and 220kpa rear, I suggest you guys to do the same if you don't mind sacrifice a little bit of FC and tyre wear.  Running too high tyre pressure may cause your dashboard, door trims' clips looses which may result possible rattles in the near future.
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but my grinding prob have nothing to do with tyre problem. I notice that once i switch to auto cruise and then the sound start to occurs. another incident if i accelerate my car out of norm (such as overtaking a car in "fast and furious mode" i.e : like Psyeo father did.. hehe) and the sound starts to occur.

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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Apr 19 2011, 10:21 AM)
16GB right ?  hmm.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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Nop... 256mb
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post Apr 19 2011, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(mardzi @ Apr 19 2011, 10:52 AM)
doh.gif  yaloo.. never think of that before.. hahaha


Added on April 19, 2011, 10:58 am

but my grinding prob have nothing to do with tyre problem. I notice that once i switch to auto cruise and then the sound start to occurs. another incident if i accelerate my car out of norm (such as overtaking a car in "fast and furious mode" i.e : like Psyeo father did.. hehe) and the sound starts to occur.
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at wat speed the sound wil occurs?
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post Apr 19 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(mardzi @ Apr 19 2011, 10:52 AM)
doh.gif  yaloo.. never think of that before.. hahaha


Added on April 19, 2011, 10:58 am

but my grinding prob have nothing to do with tyre problem. I notice that once i switch to auto cruise and then the sound start to occurs. another incident if i accelerate my car out of norm (such as overtaking a car in "fast and furious mode" i.e : like Psyeo father did.. hehe) and the sound starts to occur.
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No la, tyre was another issue because my ride was really harsh, nothing to do with the grinding noise.

Actually the metal knocking/grinding noise can be heard when i start the engine in the morning, I think this is the same noise I hear when accelerating, the noise will go off when I let go the pedal. I hope this is normal but need more insight owners to test their cars to find out.

By the way, FC for second tank is 710km, just pumped RM64.00 petrol. 90% city 10% highway.


Added on April 19, 2011, 11:15 am
QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Apr 19 2011, 11:10 AM)
at wat speed the sound wil occurs?
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Any speed as long as you press the accelerator pedal the noise will come on, and it will go off when let go the pedal.

I hope it is not CVT or any big problem because the noise is not really audible unless you pay full attention to it.




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QUOTE(Happyman @ Apr 19 2011, 11:11 AM)
No la, tyre was another issue because my ride was really harsh, nothing to do with the grinding noise.

Actually the metal knocking/grinding noise can be heard when i start the engine in the morning, I think this is the same noise I hear when accelerating, the noise will go off when I let go the pedal.  I hope this is normal but need more insight owners to test their cars to find out.

By the way, FC for second tank is 710km, just pumped RM64.00 petrol.  90% city 10% highway.


Added on April 19, 2011, 11:15 am

Any speed as long as you press the accelerator pedal the noise will come on, and it will go off when let go the pedal. 

I hope it is not CVT or any big problem because the noise is not really audible unless you pay full attention to it.
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huh?? so serious?? hmm.. i wil receive my car on this thur, let me test out... smile.gif
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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Apr 19 2011, 11:03 AM)
Nop... 256mb
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It works fine with my 4GB but not 16GB blink.gif
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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Apr 19 2011, 11:28 AM)
It works fine with my 4GB but not 16GB  blink.gif
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I do have some issue with my 1GB pen drive, normally it doesn't recognised after I turned off the engine then I wan to play it come with error. I used another 2GB then it's ok, no problem.

I guess some pen drive may have this issue. BTW the different 1GB and 2GB i used was 1GB = USB 1.1 & 2GB = USB 2.0.
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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Apr 19 2011, 11:28 AM)
It works fine with my 4GB but not 16GB  blink.gif
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im using 4GB also... but still cannot play.. anyone know why?
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QUOTE(Happyman @ Apr 19 2011, 11:11 AM)
No la, tyre was another issue because my ride was really harsh, nothing to do with the grinding noise.

Actually the metal knocking/grinding noise can be heard when i start the engine in the morning, I think this is the same noise I hear when accelerating, the noise will go off when I let go the pedal.  I hope this is normal but need more insight owners to test their cars to find out.

By the way, FC for second tank is 710km, just pumped RM64.00 petrol.  90% city 10% highway.


Added on April 19, 2011, 11:15 am

Any speed as long as you press the accelerator pedal the noise will come on, and it will go off when let go the pedal. 

I hope it is not CVT or any big problem because the noise is not really audible unless you pay full attention to it.
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But my sound is loud. I was driving toward my car park around 10km/h only. maybe the CVT? It only happens once for me. So scared if it is so. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(just_ice @ Apr 19 2011, 11:37 AM)
im using 4GB also... but still cannot play.. anyone know why?
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USB 2.0 ??
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and also the auto head lamp.... can we adjust the sensitivity for the sensor?

This morning around 7:20am at KESAS, it's consider bright already (which most of the car lights are off) and when i turn on my auto headlamp, the lights are ON.
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QUOTE(orbclyne @ Apr 19 2011, 11:44 AM)
But my sound is loud. I was driving toward my car park around 10km/h only. maybe the CVT? It only happens once for me.  So scared if it is so.  rclxub.gif
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If no more sound should be OK. The car got 3 years warranty so it is OK.

I'll see what Honda say this Friday. hopefully it is OK.

For other insight owners, can you try turn off the radio and accelerate and see if there is any unusual noise?



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QUOTE(Happyman @ Apr 19 2011, 11:48 AM)
If no more sound should be OK.  The car got 3 years warranty so it is OK.

I'll see what Honda say this Friday.  hopefully it is OK.

For other insight owners, can you try turn off the radio and accelerate and see if there is any unusual noise?
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hmm... i still remember wen i test drive... so far i cant hear any sound pun.. even i press til 140kmh?
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Will try it happyman

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