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 Jailbreak discussion, all about Jailbreak, READ: STRICTLY NO DISCUSSION ON PIRACY

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post Jul 20 2011, 10:12 PM

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the thing is jailbreaking also has it risks. if apple supports JB, that also means they are responsible for any damage by JBing. that's like letting a complete stranger take care of ur children

piracy no need to say lah

by now u're all pretty much know apple is playing safe. it's nice to know they are actually keeping tabs on the JB community, look at the upcoming notification centre.
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post Jul 20 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jul 20 2011, 10:12 PM)
the thing is jailbreaking also has it risks. if apple supports JB, that also means they are responsible for any damage by JBing. that's like letting a complete stranger take care of ur children

piracy no need to say lah

by now u're all pretty much know apple is playing safe. it's nice to know they are actually keeping tabs on the JB community, look at the upcoming notification centre.
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i agree with u bro...that's why apple block pdf exploit coz it can hack ur iphone n steal ur data... smile.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 01:57 AM

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The funny thing is, Apple WOULD NOT have known about the pdf exploit if not for comex and the dev-team. If the iPhone was not jailbroken by these hackers, Apple would have claim ignorance just like Rupert Murdoch.

Jailbreakme exploited the pdf for jailbreaking purposes and they (comex and the gang) actually came up with the fix for the pdf exploit even before Apple. So basically for 10 days AFTER the 4.3.3 jailbreak, the safest iPhone was the one that were jailbroken. Those non-jailbroken iPhone was actually exposed for 10 days (and you guys were using Maybank2u and what not on those phones ....)

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post Jul 21 2011, 11:49 PM

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Hey guys, is there any jailbreak trick that replace home button function when exiting a games or apps?
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ Jul 21 2011, 06:49 PM)
Hey guys, is there any jailbreak trick that replace home button function when exiting a games or apps?
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Enable Multi-gesture and you be able to exit the game by using your entire 5 finger pinch.
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post Jul 22 2011, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Jul 21 2011, 01:57 AM)
The funny thing is, Apple WOULD NOT have known about the pdf exploit if not for comex and the dev-team. If the iPhone was not jailbroken by these hackers, Apple would have claim ignorance just like Rupert Murdoch.

Jailbreakme exploited the pdf for jailbreaking purposes and they (comex and the gang) actually came up with the fix for the pdf exploit even before Apple. So basically for 10 days AFTER the 4.3.3 jailbreak, the safest iPhone was the one that were jailbroken. Those non-jailbroken iPhone was actually exposed for 10 days (and you guys were using Maybank2u and what not on those phones ....)
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dont forget there was one period where jailbroken phones were susceptible to malware. im not saying JB is bad for users, im just saying it's understandable apple doesnt want to be responsible for it

i dont deny you though. the first jailbreak ever (iOS 1.1.1?) exploited a flaw in safari, and a lot more after that. apple could've easily sue the devteam to hell but probably they didn't because of their skills, and treat them as unpaid debuggers. who knows? tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jul 22 2011, 08:31 AM)
dont forget there was one period where jailbroken phones were susceptible to malware. im not saying JB is bad for users, im just saying it's understandable apple doesnt want to be responsible for it

i dont deny you though. the first jailbreak ever (iOS 1.1.1?) exploited a flaw in safari, and a lot more after that. apple could've easily sue the devteam to hell but probably they didn't because of their skills, and treat them as unpaid debuggers. who knows? tongue.gif
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I guess that period of malware that you've mentioned is the ikee virus? First of all, it should state "Jailbroken with SSH installed but don't ever bother to change the root and mobile password" phones. It's like password protecting your computer but put a post-it note on the monitor with the password on it.

Jailbreaking is bad when those people don't know what they're getting into. That's where JB = piracy where new people acquiring an iPhone (but too cheapskate to buy apps) would ask where to get "free" apps and most people will say "You need to jailbreak the phone to install 'free' apps". It's a right response from Apple not to be responsible to any mishap happened because of Jailbreak, because it clearly stated it void the warranty but it is not illegal (only recently).

Jailbreaks at the same time breaks the limitation boundaries where the JB community gives the first copy/paste functions (then apple just sugar coated it to make it nice), ability to change wallpaper in the early days, bluetooth capabilities and lots more. Just look at iOS5 notification center, taken from the JB community but not only the concept but the developer as well. Most saddest of all, the ripoff of wifi sync where the community had it for a year and Apple just 'Copy & Paste' right to the icon. I could just imagine how the developer would feel (and he even submitted the app thru appstore but got rejected).

Jailbreaking scene is like a technological testbed for Apple to see what works and what doesn't. If that thing work then they will incorporated it in the next iOS update. It's just that they do it better (heck because it's their system to begin with). Suing those devteam would not benefit them at all, just look what happened to Sony. And like you said, they have debuggers, security analyst and innovation thinkers that they don't have to pay to help them make better iOS.
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post Jul 22 2011, 01:39 PM

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oh man. my iphone got stuck when it asked me to restart springboard when i dl and installed insomnia. it has been showing the spiralling loading icon for an hour already. what should i do?


Added on July 22, 2011, 1:41 pmnvm i figured out the method to force shut down the phone, pressing power and home button together and hold them till it shuts off.

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post Jul 22 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ Jul 21 2011, 11:49 PM)
Hey guys, is there any jailbreak trick that replace home button function when exiting a games or apps?
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install activator from cydia and you'll have TONS of option how to exit your app.

note that if you already have sbsetting installed on your ios, activator should already be on your setting
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post Jul 22 2011, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jul 22 2011, 07:42 AM)
I guess that period of malware that you've mentioned is the ikee virus? First of all, it should state "Jailbroken with SSH installed but don't ever bother to change the root and mobile password" phones. It's like password protecting your computer but put a post-it note on the monitor with the password on it.

Jailbreaking is bad when those people don't know what they're getting into. That's where JB = piracy where new people acquiring an iPhone (but too cheapskate to buy apps) would ask where to get "free" apps and most people will say "You need to jailbreak the phone to install 'free' apps". It's a right response from Apple not to be responsible to any mishap happened because of Jailbreak, because it clearly stated it void the warranty but it is not illegal (only recently).

Jailbreaks at the same time breaks the limitation boundaries where the JB community gives the first copy/paste functions (then apple just sugar coated it to make it nice), ability to change wallpaper in the early days, bluetooth capabilities and lots more. Just look at iOS5 notification center, taken from the JB community but not only the concept but the developer as well. Most saddest of all, the ripoff of wifi sync where the community had it for a year and Apple just 'Copy & Paste' right to the icon. I could just imagine how the developer would feel (and he even submitted the app thru appstore but got rejected).

Jailbreaking scene is like a technological testbed for Apple to see what works and what doesn't. If that thing work then they will incorporated it in the next iOS update. It's just that they do it better (heck because it's their system to begin with). Suing those devteam would not benefit them at all, just look what happened to Sony. And like you said, they have debuggers, security analyst and innovation thinkers that they don't have to pay to help them make better iOS.
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True true ... it takes 5 iteration of the iOS before something as useful as the Notification center and wifi-sync to appear in iOS. Let's not ecen go to the currrently crippled Bluetooth of the stock iOS. Celeste helps but Celeste is so buggy that I am still pissed that I spent 10 bucks on an apps that is pretty damn useless as well. Apple needs to do something about the Bluetooth, it's a joke that a "smartphone" can only use the BT for pairing with a headset ...
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post Jul 22 2011, 11:37 PM

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did i miss out some tweaks? some apps i download from cydia cannot be sync into my itunes whereas some can...what happen? sad.gif
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post Jul 22 2011, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jul 22 2011, 11:37 PM)
did i miss out some tweaks? some apps i download from cydia cannot be sync into my itunes whereas some can...what happen? sad.gif
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You are referring to what app?
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:19 AM

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guys please confirm during restore the itune will ask you restore & update at the same time i can't choose just restore and hence i don't dare to press further, does this mean i can't restore to the factory setting without updating to ios 4.3.4?

i'm currently at 4.3.3 (3gs) don't want to upgrade.
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post Jul 23 2011, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(quintesson @ Jul 22 2011, 07:19 PM)
guys please confirm during restore the itune will ask you restore & update at the same time i can't choose just restore and hence i don't dare to press further, does this mean i can't restore to the factory setting without updating to ios 4.3.4?

i'm currently at 4.3.3 (3gs) don't want to upgrade.
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There is no way to restore to 4.3.3 so even if you press restore (factory settings etc), it will automatically update to 4.3.4
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post Jul 23 2011, 11:05 AM

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but i thought we can force install the firmware from itunes by holding shift and select update then we can select the firmware file to install, no?
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QUOTE(jacklsw86 @ Jul 23 2011, 06:05 AM)
but i thought we can force install the firmware from itunes by holding shift and select update then we can select the firmware file to install, no?
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Yes, if you are trying to do it during the window that Apple is still signing that said firmware. Once Apple releases a new firmware, you will only have at most 2 days before Apple stops signing the old firmware and you will not be able to do the Shift+Restore method anymore after that.

FYI, Apple ONLY signs 4.3.4 at the moment so there is no way (normally that is) for you to restore your iDevices to 4.3.3 (unless you have saved your SHSH)
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post Jul 23 2011, 01:31 PM

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Guys, my silent toggle switch is quite buggy now. When on silent toggle, will easily change modes back and forth with the slightest touch. Is there any app that allows me to create profiles for ringtones?

Thanks.
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post Jul 23 2011, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(quintesson @ Jul 23 2011, 12:19 AM)
guys please confirm during restore the itune will ask you restore & update at the same time i can't choose just restore and hence i don't dare to press further, does this mean i can't restore to the factory setting without updating to ios 4.3.4?

i'm currently at 4.3.3 (3gs) don't want to upgrade.
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you are in this topic so i assume you are already jailbroken

if you have already connected to cydia at least once you are safe. as it automatically save you shsh blob of your current firmware

well quick google leads me to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AfH_f8CRz4

the youtube vid supposedly teach you how to restore your phone using your saved shsh blobs.(i dint' check the vid)

you can probably refine my search

good luck smile.gif


Added on July 23, 2011, 3:42 pm
QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Jul 23 2011, 01:31 PM)
Guys, my silent toggle switch is quite buggy now. When on silent toggle, will easily change modes back and forth with the slightest touch. Is there any app that allows me to create profiles for ringtones?

Thanks.
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erm i dont really understand

from what i understand you want 2 apps, one app is hopefully to 'fix' your silent toggle, and one is and app to create profile for ringtone. am i correct?

if you have activator app, you can always turn silent toggle on/off using simple touch gesture or using other button entirely

if you want to assign different ringtone for different people, you can easily do that in the default contacts app

This post has been edited by CallMeMonkey: Jul 23 2011, 03:42 PM
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post Jul 23 2011, 06:39 PM

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@kelvin9316, Are you stupid or something? Read the goddamn warning on this thread before posting your stupid question.

NO DISCUSSION ON PIRACY!!!!!!!


Which part of that don't you understand?

Now the thread will be given a warning because of your stupid post and hopefully they will ban you for 7 days as well.
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