i can't figure out if i install my rad on top of my casing n resevoir at the 5.25" bay, so how should i get the air trapped out??? how should i refill water??? when i shut off my pc, will the water from the rad on top will flow down n fill up the reservoir???

really how should i fill up water in the first time??? hehehe... do i need to have an opening on top of the whole wc setup???

need advice...!!!

TQ...

with the rad at the top of the case, your pump will do the job of moving water up into it. try to make it possible that the rad is removable so that you can bleed the entire system of air before you mount it in.
before turning on the pump, make sure that the water level is already higher than the pump impeller. The pump cannot be run dry remember, or you'll damage it.
you don't need to worry about water flowing into the reservoir and air flowing out to the top. As long as in the reservoir, the water level is higher than the inlet, the air will remain there. With the system off, water from the radiator will not flow down and replace the air there without anything replacing it. It's a simple law. Just like when you fill up a bottle with a small opening, when you turn it upside down, water will not come out unless there is a sufficient opening to allow air in.

So basically, after assembling it the way you want, remove the rad from the top of the case, fill with water. jump start your power supply without anythin but the pump connected. watch the water level in the reservoir and keep topping up when necessary. you may need to turn off the power, fill the reservoir again and start again. As air gets removed from the loop, it goes back into the reservoir, and you have to top up water again. The part that gets stuffed with air most is the radiator, you have to turn it around according to the flow of water to move air out to the outlet. A dual pass radiator will flow into the rad at the inlet, flow down the tubes on one half of the rad, make a turn round at the plenum chamber at the end, and flow back to the outlet on the other half of the rad. (donno if that made sense i'll try to draw a diagram sometime)



here's another two suggestions. I'd prefer the one on the right though. with your diagram you have to remember the inlet and outlet directions of the pump are always at a 90 degree angle apart. so you have to take that into consideration if you want to place the reservoir at a significantly higher level because then, you have to provide sufficient space for the tubing to bend. You should never put the reservoir at a lower level than the pump however. The water level of the reservoir should always exceed the height of the pump impeller.

This post has been edited by MetalZone: Jun 19 2007, 05:56 PM

ok, installing the reservoir is oredi hard enuf for me... how the hell am i gonna install the bracket to the reservoir??? as illustrated in the manual... the screw, then the stell washer then rubber washer between bracket hole n ear of reservoir then through the whole thing n finally the nut with teeth...

the screw isn't long enuf!!! i tried the whole nite till my gf ask me y so hard to get through the hole (nut)...

i juz install the barbs to the reservoir with the o-ring... no ptfe tape or glue... is it ok???

LOL you're not the only one to complain about the reservoir. Some people skipped the metal or rubber washer. you might wanna skip the metal washers.

Yes, no need PTFE tape. The O-ring will seal it.

Because the screw is not "long" enough or the "hole" is too tight.

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jun 21 2007, 03:29 PM

what were u thinkin huh???

What?
I'm talking about the fact lor, it depends on how someone read it and understand it.

I'm looking for budget LCS, any recommendations? I've read that some said that TT BigWater SE is not that good, why is it so?

Does it need any maintenance? Like refill every certain period for example

This post has been edited by afosz: Jun 22 2007, 11:18 AM

Budget?
Perhaps this:
Swiftech Apogee GT
Nirox P2800 Premodded
Swiftech MCR220-QP
T-line
Masterkleer 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing
Will be just below RM500.

The problem were caused because the "screw" not long enough.

Maintenance, maybe you need to clean the fans and the radiator as it might get dusty in the long run. Maybe you need to topup the reservoir once in a while too. Once a year, maybe you can overhauled the LCS and change the liquid. That's all, to me it is not that bad.

What about TT BigWater SE? I'm thinking of getting that one most probably

Not Air Besar for sure, you will regret choosing it.

This post has been edited by uzairi: Jun 22 2007, 03:56 PM

Do you love your money?
You do right?

You can see many users here said that Bigwater is crap, now then, let me ask you something, give me one good reason why you don't want to listen what the crowd says about it?

Trust me, if you love your money, don't buy that crap.
If you really short in budget, it's better if you just buy high end aircooling heatsink rather than buying that Bigwater crap.

Want TRUE watercooling?
Fork out a budget at least RM500.

If you can't fork out that kind of money, save your money and get yourself a highend aircooling heatsink.

LOL Air Besar

Yeah, have been reading previous pages and there's bad reviews about air besar. In that case, I need to adjust my budget 1st around RM500 to get MetalZone's WC

Better to do so, if not you'll regret buying it all your life. LOL

Wow regret all your life... sounds like a serious life decision.

But well, its true. it's either high end heatsink or fork out more for a good WC. For low budget, a high end heatsink doesn't actually need maintenance and it's much easier to install. Remember, don't just simply go for WC just because it is bling, or just because it is "Water Cooling".

Yeah, thanks for the advice

Previous post is posted before using the search button. After do so, I've read almostthere's post iinm and about its disadvantages. Well, I guess I need to increase my budget, and will seek out for recommendation here later

or save a few more months n forks out a little xtra... air beasr??? wah new name... hahahaha...!

Correct, big water will be the biggest regret in your life.
That's why i said earlier, if you love your money, don't get bigwater.

yeah get water cooling because u need it to cool down ur hot processor... it really does help....
i do agree with sifu MTZ...if u wanan get low end WC better get an high end air cooling....
maintaining the wc loop is kinda pain in the ass for me as i m still new with watercooling