Yup i'm still on.. how else can i get my hands on the G4... unless someone else can get me the G7...

icic thanks amok... thought opening it up will void the warranty cos of the sticker there but i just found out that it doesnt.sorry for my noobiness...

guys wat pump would u ppl recommend for a loop with a black ice extreme 2 Rad and a DD TDX wb?

hahah amok G7 its on prototype and if I did't recalled wrongly cathar was saying that g5 is about $200 and $300 for a g7
that I think is in AUD or USD I also dunno
but still a 900RM waterblock.
I will follow you guys and wait for the block from din.

I also find out something when I was desperate to check out shipping, it only takes voyuermods just 29.90 USD to ship 3 quad heatcores to malaysia.
I was thinking to start a bulk next time around, just that dunno anyone would trust me and join. hehe

just to ask , what is the best performance for Water cooler system

i am start new bulk now. new babie in overclock.

thanks

OK..after reading the whole thread, i hav a rough idea what to get for a custom made water cooling set. I am gona list down the parts, n pls do give me some opinions n advice.

What i gonna need :
DD RBX CPU WaterBlock @ RM250+/- or Swiftech G4 Waterblock? @ RM350+/- which wud be better? how bout the DD TDX?
DD Black Ice Xtremer Radiator @ RM250+/-
DD Maze 4 GPU WaterBlock @ RM250+/- or DD7800WB @ RM500+/-? which better?
Swiftech MCP655 Pump @ RM300+/-?
Reservoir - Homemade/readymade?
Tygon Tubing 1/2

Did i missed out anything? Total wud be bout RM1000++...which part can i change to bring the costs down without pulling ther performance down? I am intrested to go water cooling...but need to look around for the best combo for the best bang for buck...hopuflly u experience WC users can give me a rough idea or guide on what to get for the best combo.

N btw, d items above are to fit in to my future rig (if it ever comes true)
A64 S939 Proc
Nvidia 7800 Series (mebe ATI if theirs are better)

oh, 1 more thing, do i need a PELTIER?

This post has been edited by Mowgli: Sep 27 2005, 03:19 AM

after testing...and testing/...and testing...i found out my max reached temp with this kit is 52c for full load....at 1.625v that is quite medium high i guess....how do i manage the connections in terms of making the water flow much better (quicker)...read at almosthere wc guide i notice he said try to make it shorter...

or do i need to lap the waterblock juz to earn another couple of celsius???

r u using all the tubing that come with the kit?
try to cut the tube shorter so that its just long enough to connect to waterblock, pump and radiator...
no need to lap the waterblock as the waterblock is quite nicely lapped...
lapping it would help but i dont think u will earn another couple of celsius....

1 more thing, installing the rad inside the casing will be better cause the tube can be shorten more...

Bang Antonio, semknyer rig..huuhuu...anyway kalo pakai stacker, ada cara nak pendekkan gila loop tuh. Nih gambar dia as it's worth a 1000 words

^.. ehem-ehem.. upstairs is showing off his rig... just wait till the G4 get into action.. if not mebbe a G-string will do .

Yes mr anthonio.. shorten those "cacing" tubes a bit it'll increase your heads pressure.

amok : long time no see...i hav some questions unanswered in ur pinned threads lar....

btw, nobody has any opinions of the specs of watercooling dat i posted ont his page above? =(

Macam dia sorang jer yang akan pakai G4 laaa....sodaaaaaa

Anyway, on the G4, stocks are being replenished in that states so we can expect to see ours in Bulk Ver. 8 dinster

owh..thanks for the tip man...


biase ler...baru ler nama rig...klu tak nama demo rig....anyways i did my shorten on 'cacing' tube last nite...and rad is inside not...but still lacks of heat dissipation...still 53c full load....weh camne nieee....klu are 45c ok gak...takle risau sangat nak upped vcore lagik....

what is head pressure????

Actually it depends on yer budget, you'll need at least a good 3.1m Max Heads Pressure pump.. if you got the moolah go the MCP655 at around RM350.00 if you're a bit adventures (or in another word.. "skint") try the cyber aqua fer around RM70.00 (refer to the budget pump shoot out thread)

aiyah so many question lar.. , okay here is my opinion (may not neccessaryly be THE answer to your q's):
1. w/block: get the G4 full stop.
2. BIX which series? BIX 1 or BIX2? If gonna do with a VGA block might as well get the BIX 2.
3. GPU w/block which is better? erk .. if me i'll get the cheaper one
4. MCP655 pump.. yup
5. Resevoir : DIY = cheap, Readymade = Bling-bling factor.
6. Tubing 1/2" ID : Tygon? you have a lot of moolah... can spare me some?

Add

1. Fans : 2 x 120 mm at if possible 75 cfm to cool of the rads
2. Clamps to tie up your tubings

ooopsss... i think it has blow up you budget a bit...

As for the peltier Q's.. it is not necesarry unless you wanna go sub zero... which is a different agenda.

hehehehehe... hopefully can get it before Hari Raya.

anthonio@ head pressure = tekanan kepala. no lah sorry, its the water pressure at the pump discharge head measured in heights (e.g. 1.8m, 2.0m, 3.1m etc.) for a highly restrictive system, the bigger heads the better/efficient.

head is a measurement of the height of the water that the pump could create from the kinetic energy to the water. Actually there's no such term 'Head pressure' Head is a term that has units of a length or feet and pressure has units of force per unit area or pound per square inch. Usually centrifugal's pump measure by head instead of pressure because the pressure will change if weight of the liquid change, but head will not change.

1 thing I want to add on, which is the weight of the liquid would not change the max head of a pump or the flow, the density is what it matters.
That is from what I see in Bernouli's energy equation.
and always be reminded that a max head is only meassured at ZERO flow. A p-q graph would do a much better job in determine the way a pump behaves with respect to flow and pressure. It is also best to use the p-q graph to interpolate the best pump for a system, but I don't think we all here are given the equipment to generate such graph.
Such a practice being carried out by cathar http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=322434
I found the pump guide very professionally carried out, it basically covers all the pump that normally being used for pc watercooling.

If anything is wrong don't shoot me for it, I'm a noob.

Just for reference, the specific weight of water is at 9.81 kN/m(cube)

Antonio, rasa kena buat drastic measure sikit whereby you have to do an upside down mobo configuration (You didn't notice meh in my pics the difference?) and from there work out ur tubings so that the pam to block length is about 5"-6" camtuh baru ada improvement. If my AXP Mobile 2.5Ghz can do steady 45C all day at full load using a DD Maze 4, I'd be very disappointed if I got temps like yours.

Buang laaa kipas Smartfan tuh and use some Delta's or Pabst's baru ada cool down of the Rad itself.

hehehe...okies...i'll go home lunchtime take photo's of the new setup...heheheh...actually now aledi lunchtime....yes yes yes...

http://www.cooling-masters.com/articles-33-0.html

Pump comparison: AquaXtreme 150Z-DC12, AquaXtreme 50Z-DC12, DangerDen D5/Laing D5, Dangerden CSP-MAG, Asetek Waterchill 12V and Laing DDC.

itz in ze french zo uze ze bablefishoz

My new setup....




Water block which is decided to open up just now and went for a lil bit of grinding...




Radiator is inside...yeahhh babeh....



This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Sep 28 2005, 02:57 PM

Erkkk...bant anotnio....rimas gua tengok PC ko nih...huhhuuh

Anyway if temps don't improve, try converting the Stacker to Semi-BTX which means you flip the whole motherboard pan 180 degrees so that the processor and the radiator kat bawah. That way the pump is very close to the block. You might gain a lot in terms of pressure to supply to the bloock. It's quite easy to do. Just need to unscrew about 12 screws at the motherboard pan's base. IF tak fit flush, just saw the crossmember besi just below the upper PSU slot and it'll fit just nice and won't be noticeable as it will be concealed by the PSU backpanel of the stacker.

And CM punya UV fan? Mak aih, that fan very low cfm laa wei. Dah laaa rad Tt tuh very restrictive. Get that delta I see on the left fitted on instead, sure tak rugi wan

Read that already and as the charts show and Cathar himself has repeated many times, The Aquaxtreme 50Z-DC12 (not 150Z, heat dump too muchand who needs 6m head pressure?) still remains the top dog in terms of performance per heat dump by far as they also included that as a side comparison. After all, it's a Laing MCP600 in the first place