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almostthere
post Sep 15 2005, 06:03 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Sep 14 2005, 10:31 PM)
AFAIK, the so called copper is actually a mixture of copper and brass, because brass is so much cheaper than copper. wink.gif
brass is material used in our piping system, like water taps.

i'm not sure about DD's rads thou.
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DD' s rad are usually more often then not HWLab's OEM units AFAIK.
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post Sep 15 2005, 08:38 AM

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brass is a bit yellowish compared to copper. so they look alike.

i dunt think that Coolwave rads are really " copper "
coz if i were the manufacturer, i wont use pure copper also
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Sep 14 2005, 07:36 PM)
You want to know why temps increase?It's cos the pump is only working around 7v instead of the full 12v voltage it needs for max efficiency. And for Bigwater, I'd not recommend going major and using it to cool the VGA and the NB too at the moment as the pump has barely enough flow and head pressure to even cope with those stresses
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hihihi...thats why i sengaja put the pump running 1/2 power...to see if any temp changes...just wanna confirm that the water cooling system actually works...

if i would cool down my VGA and NB, i would afix one more kit....and maybe i connect it like this:

resevoir -> pump 1 -> cpu block -> radiator 1 -> pump 2 -> Vga block -> NB -> radiator 2 -> resevoir.... how otai2??? can ahh???

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post Sep 15 2005, 12:02 PM

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Hi guys
I've got some question
I'll have a loop of g4 + dd heatcore
I was wondering if this pump, the alphacool aqua1500, is good enough for the job?
links to the pump
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http://www.ichbinleise.de/product_info.php?products_id=575

Thanks

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post Sep 15 2005, 03:30 PM

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anyone is interest to get the vantec new wc kit; stingray
i just got the sample just now, anyone would like to know the performance, plz contact me few days later ..
now busy with tmr midterm test ... no time to test it
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post Sep 15 2005, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Sep 15 2005, 12:02 PM)
Hi guys
I've got some question
I'll have a loop of g4 + dd heatcore
I was wondering if this pump, the alphacool aqua1500, is good enough for the job?
links to the pump
Madshrimps
Pcmoddingmy
http://www.ichbinleise.de/product_info.php?products_id=575

Thanks
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I've read the German site and I can roughly guess that the HMax is 3m which sounds good but a realistic 900LPH? Hmmmmmmm....Someone should give it a try..how much does it cost and isit available as a AC based pump?
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post Sep 15 2005, 10:49 PM

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Its a dc pump actually, dunno about can it be a ac based pump
but I know after researching that its made by OASE
its a OASE solaraqua 1500

it can work from a 12v-24v range
12v it would make 900lph and 2m maxhead
24v it would do 1500lph and 3m maxhead
the pump comes with a transformer converting 12v into 12v - 24v
and 1 thing I've really like about the pump is the power consumption is just merely 7w
I suppose the heat dump in this case would be less


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QUOTE(TJye @ Sep 15 2005, 10:49 PM)
Its a dc pump actually, dunno about can it be a ac based pump
but I know after researching that its made by OASE
its a OASE solaraqua 1500

it can work from a 12v-24v range
12v it would make 900lph and 2m maxhead
24v it would do 1500lph and 3m maxhead
the pump comes with a transformer converting 12v into 12v - 24v
and 1 thing I've really like about the pump is the power consumption is just merely 7w
I suppose the heat dump in this case would be less
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Indeed it sounds interesting, reminds me of Aquateknika's 50z pumps which are as good as that on paper. Anyone care to give it a try?

As a side not, anyone knows how to fabricate these heat exchangers in copper?

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post Sep 15 2005, 11:07 PM

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I'm giving that pump a try once everything is together and see how is it

as for the in line heat exchangers
hahah they are all over the net
but the setback is the aluminum construction.
as far as I know
one can mill those parts out of a copper block or a solid copper rod
I dunno about cast
if can also the min volume would be gaigantic to just make it economical.

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post Sep 15 2005, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Sep 15 2005, 11:07 PM)
hahah they are all over the net
but the setback is the aluminum construction.
as far as I know
one can mill those parts out of a copper block or a solid copper rod
I dunno about cast
if can also the min volume would be gaigantic to just make it economical.
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Yep milling would be much cheaper as the copper bars are easier to obtain and are reasonably easy to work on. The cross section pics shown seems to show no special technique required so just a matter of finding the barbs and such. Anyone up for the challenge? I'm sure a few would be interested as getting rid as much heat as possible from the loop is everyone's priority
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SeLrAhC: shoo shoo off topic la u hehehehehhe
I dunno where to get copper rods or copper blocks
as for milling probably can ask the lab asistance to help abit on it
maybe buy him tea.

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post Sep 15 2005, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Sep 15 2005, 11:13 PM)
SeLrAhC: shoo shoo off topic la u hehehehehhe
I dunno where to get copper rods or copper blocks
as for milling probably can ask the lab asistance to help abit on it
maybe buy him tea.
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I can also do the milling at my uni's machine shop but finding the bars would be the problem (Can amok step in here?). Tapping I'm not sure but once one can obtain those brass barbs it shouldn't be hard to tap the holes. But since it'll be in copper, how to anodise it so it won't oxidise eh?

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post Sep 15 2005, 11:21 PM

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no idea on anodizing
I go and ask the lab asistance tomorrow on where he get the copper bars or blocks
The tapping can be done I know the lab got tools for this stuff
i've used some of them before
One thing I don't understand is that
what are them using to provide a water tight seal between the 2 peice?
i only see o rings on the barb

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post Sep 15 2005, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Sep 15 2005, 11:21 PM)
no idea on anodizing
I go and ask the lab asistance tomorrow on where he get the copper bars or blocks
The tapping can be done I know the lab got tools for this stuff
i've used some of them before
I see him milling alot of stuff before
One thing I don't understand is that
what are them using to provide a water tight seal between the 2 peice?
i only see o rings on the barb
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What 2 pieces? I don't get you actually. But if you can fabricate em, mind sharing us a few since one would have to get the rods by the meter and you would have spare lenght. I won't mind paying a bit extra for the effort.
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I go and ask and we would share the cost?
no problem on that since we are felow wc enthusiat

The 2 piece is the pic of the inline heat exchanger
the rod would open up into 2 piece? or it was disected by the reviewer?
I was asking if it can be open
how to make it water tight?
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post Sep 15 2005, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Sep 15 2005, 11:26 PM)
I go and ask and we would share the cost?
no problem on that since we are felow wc enthusiat

The 2 piece is the pic of the inline heat exchanger
the rod would open up into 2 piece? or it was disected by the reviewer?
I was asking if it can be open
how to make it water tight?
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It's dissected for us to see how it looks like. Don't worry about that. No way one can make a cross section piece water tight unless there's a washer along the length and a lock nut to secure both ends.
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oh lol
anyway
your post of the g4 making me really excited
finally after 2 months, the dd bulk also everything is coming together smile.gif
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just finish took some pictures of the Vantec Stingray ..
haven tested it yet
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vantec...
how's the performance ??

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