part 1 already be lecturer?

yeaps...i wonder myself what kinda noob lecturer is that...but she's good considering she's just teaching introduction to architecture for dip.... dean is part3 though

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Added on March 29, 2012, 2:47 pmreasonable enough but not having a portfolio is a big bump i guess

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Added on March 29, 2012, 2:51 pmhopefully by the time i finish my dip they can get accredited for part 2 as well...in case ipta is a no go...taylor's mah.... i can just wonder what will happen to the fees if part 2 get accredited as well

This post has been edited by yuvanraj: Mar 29 2012, 02:51 PM

I dont think a dean has to have a part 3... as long as he has at least a masters. Quite alot of lecturers have masters or phd but they did not sit for the LAM exam so no Ar status.

It'll take ages for them to get part 2...they dont even offer 2nd degree or masters yet. Who knows, after 2013 they might not have part 1 anymore..

part 1? i'm gonna say yes. for part 1, starting pay is about RM1400-RM1800. there's not much difference between overseas and local, as all they care at this point is what u can do. even if u add RM200 increment per year it's still a reach to ask for rm3k. let alone without a portfolio.

as a guide, acceptable starting pay in malaysia for part 2 is currently at RM2400.

1. u have to enroll into the masters programme in order to qualify for it. it's not automatic .

2. to become a lecturer, u only need a degree.

3. sure.

if she holds a degree, she's qualified. even if it's only part 1. but of course, she will be limited to teach diploma students, or 1st year degree students.

a dean has to have experience. qualifications dont matter, really. he doesnt even need to be an architect. running a school is different from running a practice.

woahh 3k for part 1 grads from oversea? fat chance dude

overseas graduate may have better confidence at work and presentation but i dont think their salary will be twice as local grads

Honestly ive seen something close to that and the person is only a diploma holder with few years experience. This person with part 1 has 2 years as well. This is coming from a state that earns less than what u see in kl btw..So 3k is slightly high but something close to that i think mayybe..

This post has been edited by metaloid: Mar 30 2012, 01:56 PM

if u're talking about perlis, there's only ONE registered architect for the entire state, and u can safely assume where ALL the projects in that state went to. it's about supply and demand.

why take one untested overseas graduate when u can get two reliable local graduates for the same price? u can argue that the overseas graduate might be able to do what the two local grads can, but unless they've mastered temporal duality, they cant exist in two places at the same time .

No im talking about Sarawak and its well known that the salaries there are lower west Malaysia's. The thing is its hard to find reliable graduates there let alone 2. So imho it depends on the company, ive seen one hire a diploma UTM graduate with few years of experience for more than 2k. So if Sarawak can do it, i bet the west can do better

like i said, it's about supply and demand. a desperate company with several incoming projects but short-staffed are willing to pay anything just to make sure they could deliver. also, u have to verify the nature of the employments. i've had a friend hired for RM4k per month with 0 experience (part 2) and bragged around for a few months. apparently it was an 18-month contract.

after that he struggled looking for an office who could match the pay with his 1.5 years experience. eventually he sambung masters.

1 or 2 example (especially from the same office) does not justify the rest of the practice.

i want to buy a computer sets for project office use in Autocad , can please advise for the necessary specification?

what's ur budget like?

For CPU around RM2500

Is it wise to take unaccredited course ?

I want to take Foundation In Science in UTAR , PJ Campus

and then continue with 3 year Bachelor's Degree.

Since it is 1 year short of other accredited course , is it worth risking the extra 1 year time to take LAM test independently?

I choose UTAR because of low cost of tuition fees and friend.

Please give me some advice.

how is it shorter by 1 year? bcoz u're doing 1 year foundation?

when talking about unaccredited courses, first u'd have to ask - why arent they accredited after all these while? is it some kind of conspiracy or are they just not good enough?

of course, u can say a lot about conspiracies, but assume that they're just not good enough - at which point do u think ur degree will ever be deemed good enough by LAM? the answer is, probably after 4-5 years working. sounds good? well, while ur accredited friends could already use those 4-5 years to work for their part 3 (if they did not achieved it already), u are still working to accredit ur part 2. and assuming u've acquired ur part 2, it's another 4-5 years before ur part 3.

so is 8-10 years working before becoming a professional architect worth the 1 year cut when studying?

Utar 1 yr foundation + 3 yrs Degree

Taylor 1 yr foundation + 3 yrs accredited Degree ( Part 1 )

I would advise u go Taylor if u prepare to continuos for Part 2 since Utar Architecture course still consider new

This post has been edited by indahjaya: Apr 2 2012, 12:33 AM

sir , can i change my school to other local Universities after i done foundation in UTAR?

UTAR is unaccredited because they just launched this course 2 years ago which is quite new.

btw , part 3 can be done after 2 year of architectural practice isn't it? why is it another 4-5 years?

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Added on April 2, 2012, 1:43 amsir , Taylor is undeniably one of the best school to study architecture.

but , i afraid that my family can't afford the tuition fees , so i have to choose utar =)

This post has been edited by jackyxtan: Apr 2 2012, 01:43 AM

1. well, technically u can. but most schools dont accept foundations from other schools. if u do ur foundation in UTAR, it's likely that it's only accepted in UTAR. there are too few successful transfer cases for us to say 'sure u can transfer'. most of the time people just stick (or have to stick) with the school where they did their foundations.

2. do note that although UTAR might be new, there are schools that have been around for 20-25 years which still hasnt got their accreditation.

3. 2 years is the minimum, IF u've fulfilled all the requirements. from my observations amongst my friends and students, they'd take about 4-5 years before fulfilling all the logbook requirements. there are a few who managed to actually do it in under 2 years, but they failed the exams. do note that the passing rate is about 20% each year.

U can apply ptptn loan to cover part of ur tuition fee

let say utar graduates able to complete the bachelor's degree in 4th year.

is it possible for them to do both part 1 and part 2 lam in 5th year or there is any restriction for them?

For Taylor's even PTPTN wont be enough to cover...plus u get the money slow...u need to pay about half first. But try to discuss this with the office. Btw, Taylors is only accredited for those graduating in 2011/12, after that is still undecided.