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tehtmc
post Apr 22 2011, 01:02 PM

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Why would you consider joining the public sector? The job is more relaxed no doubt and is more secure. After all, people used to joke that JKR stood for 'jangan kerja rajin'.

Are you bumi or non-bumi?

Nowadays, there is hardly any non-bumi architects in the public sector except those bonded by scholarship.
In the 80's, there used to be a 2-year compulsory service for all architects (and civil engineers) before they could be registered but that was scrapped during the recession.

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post Apr 22 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Apr 22 2011, 01:02 PM)
Why would you consider joining the public sector?  The job is more relaxed no doubt and is more secure.  After all, people used to joke that JKR stood for 'jangan kerja rajin'. 

Are you bumi or non-bumi?

Nowadays, there is hardly any non-bumi architects in the public sector except those bonded by scholarship.
In the 80's, there used to be a 2-year compulsory service for all architects (and civil engineers) before they could be registered but that was scrapped during the recession.
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Non, thanks for your info. This is gonna be a long consideration after all~ shocking.gif
TSazarimy
post Apr 22 2011, 10:23 PM

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i always tell my students NOT to work with the government. u're holding a professional degree, one where u can seriously do some good in this world. why limit ur potentials by opting to work under old school bosses who only care to fulfill his next KPI?

sure, private sector is not as stable when the economy's bad. but when the economy's good, u'll easily earn 3-4 times more than the public sector. that's when u use the money to invest (rather than buy expensive cars).

there are lots of potentials in the private sector. go for it.
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Izzit possible for me to take foundation in architectural studies(IPTS) and then continue deegree in local U?
My chance for the intake would be lower compared to form 6 and matric?
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post Apr 23 2011, 12:36 PM

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Izzit possible for me to take foundation in architectural studies(IPTS) and then continue deegree in local U?
My chance for the intake would be lower compared to form 6 and matric?
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Local U as in IPTA?
No, it's not possible after foundation. Foundation is meant to prepare you for degree in that particular uni, not for others, certainly not for IPTA.
It may be possible after your diploma but it's tough, don't bank on that.


Added on April 23, 2011, 12:49 pmMost architects stay with public service not by choice but because they have a contract to fulfil.

The experience with public sector is very much limited. Of course there are the benefits associated with government service such as status, recognition, opportunities for training and further studies, etc. The more enterprising ones would take on private jobs for additional income.

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interestingly, my friends working in JKR are all part 3 architects now. they achieved that on average 2-3 years faster than those in private.
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@azarimy,

I would like some advice.. I have recently been accepted into the diploma in architecture course at tarc with scholarship. I'm not sure whether to accept their offer as i've not really heard much about their architecture course. I'm also considering the diploma from limkokwing in kuching. My plan is to pursue my degree overseas particularly in Australasia after completing my diploma. I would like to know, is it a good choice to go to tarc? Is their architecture course recognised by overseas institutions? Or is it a wiser choice to stay and pursue my diploma in limkokwing? I have to make my decision soon as the course in tarc is about to start.. I would much appreciate your advice. smile.gif
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neither diplomas are truly recognizable overseas. LUCT's will be recognized by a select school in australia, but not the rest of the world. this is the same with TARC's as well.

but bottom line is, if u're targeting a degree, it does not matter which path u took. if doing architecture in TARC can get u into a recognized/credible school like melbourne or RMIT, then got for it. but if it only lands u in some backwater school in russia, then why bother?

figure out ur destination. then u will better understand which path u gonna take. if u cant decide, then i recommend the safer choice: A-levels or STPM.
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neither diplomas are truly recognizable overseas. LUCT's will be recognized by a select school in australia, but not the rest of the world. this is the same with TARC's as well.

but bottom line is, if u're targeting a degree, it does not matter which path u took. if doing architecture in TARC can get u into a recognized/credible school like melbourne or RMIT, then got for it. but if it only lands u in some backwater school in russia, then why bother?

figure out ur destination. then u will better understand which path u gonna take. if u cant decide, then i recommend the safer choice: A-levels or STPM.
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Thank you for your opinion. Right now my choices are limited to LUCT and TARC. Most of overseas university require arts and portfolio with a-levels.. There seems to be no institution in malaysia that offers art as a subject in a-levels. Being a science student i'm not sure if i can come up with a good enough portfoilio. I have been told by agents that most Australian universities(eg. RMIT, uni melb etc..) accept LUCT's diploma. The counsellor in tarc said advance standing into the robert gordon university is given to tarc diploma holders. she also told me that i can apply to most universities once i complete the course. But almost every university that offers diploma says that u can apply to any university with their diploma. I dont know how true that statement is. But what i really like to know, is that as person involved in architecture education, which of these two schools do you think is more reputable and can offer a better education in architecture?
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i was rejected for the interview for UTM..

haih...
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QUOTE(123.abc @ Apr 23 2011, 07:51 AM)
Thank you for your opinion. Right now my choices are limited to LUCT and TARC. Most of overseas university require arts and portfolio with a-levels.. There seems to be no institution in malaysia that offers art as a subject in a-levels. Being a science student i'm not sure if i can come up with a good enough portfoilio. I have been told by agents that most Australian universities(eg. RMIT, uni melb etc..) accept LUCT's diploma. The counsellor in tarc said advance standing into the robert gordon university is given to tarc diploma holders. she also told me that i can apply to most universities once i complete the course. But almost every university that offers diploma says that u can apply to any university with their diploma. I dont know how true that statement is. But what i really like to know, is that as person involved in architecture education, which of these two schools do you think is more reputable and can offer a better education in architecture?
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do u want seriously good architectural education or just enough? because in my opinion, diploma from TARC and LUCT are just enough to get u by and eventually end up at an overseas institution. look at it as a stepping stone. an expensive one.

the difference between LUCT and TARC diploma is minutely small if u compare to other more vocational ones like polytechnics. a lot of people underestimate polytechnics, labeling them as a place where people who cant get into universities. but in architecture, they are highly regarded and extremely competitive. and cheap too.

so it's up to u. if i were u, i'd save money and go for A-levels/STPM and get some serious architectural education by going straight to degree. that's where the joy is.
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i was rejected for the interview for UTM..

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Mr Aza. is there any ways to appeal ?

soyabamboo: are u applying through stpm or diploma ?
im using my degree from ipts (without part 1 accreditation) to apply under diploma entry.
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QUOTE(SoyaBamboo @ Apr 23 2011, 09:51 AM)
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QUOTE(kuanming86 @ Apr 23 2011, 09:57 AM)
Mr Aza. is there any ways to appeal ?

soyabamboo: are u applying through stpm or diploma ?
im using my degree from ipts (without part 1 accreditation) to apply under diploma entry.
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i. if u're applying for degree, u may call the Head of Department of Architecture, Associate Professor Dr. Abdullah Sani or the Head of Course, Dr. Khairul Anwar in Fakulti Alam Bina, Skudai. they will further instruct u of what to do, should they accept ur appeal.
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any1 could gv me some advice if i cant manage to get any ipta for this coming degree intake?
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QUOTE(aloy_radzi @ Apr 23 2011, 10:04 AM)
any1 could gv me some advice if i cant manage to get any ipta for this coming degree intake?
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have u read the first page?
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post Apr 23 2011, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 23 2011, 06:03 PM)
i. if u're applying for degree, u may call the Head of Department of Architecture, Associate Professor Dr. Abdullah Sani or the Head of Course, Dr. Khairul Anwar in Fakulti Alam Bina, Skudai. they will further instruct u of what to do, should they accept ur appeal.
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i will call them up on monday morning
thanks a lot
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QUOTE(kuanming86 @ Apr 23 2011, 07:20 PM)
i will call them up on monday morning
thanks a lot
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im reject from UTM oso, may i knw hw can i reach tat officer? may i knw tat officer contact number pls?
im applying degree in urban planning and landscape architect...
cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
no mood already~

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anfLSnAL_Sw&feature=relmfu

aint too sure if this has been posted before but heads up for those who are interested in this course smile.gif

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QUOTE(rayno87 @ Apr 25 2011, 09:46 AM)
im reject from UTM oso, may i knw hw can i reach tat officer? may i knw tat officer contact number pls?
im applying degree in urban planning and landscape architect...
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif 
no mood already~
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call the head of department of urban planning and/or landscape architect.

i'm not gonna give u any numbers. it's readily available on utm website. go do a little digging.

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