Mr Aza,
i still remembered u had mentioned before regarding the differences between utm to usm and um before during the version2 of this thread but i tried to search but still couldn't find it.

Would be please recall it back here if u don't mind.

Basically is about the scope of UTM, as u mentioned earlier, utm is more on 'old -school' kind of teaching. How does it means actually ? How about the others ?

Secondly, what about the syllabus if were to compare with the others for part 1 and part 2. I have tried to compare those syllabus side by side. I'm really sorry that i couldn't see any differences with my limited knowledge.

thanks in advance.

mmm could u phrase ur questions clearly? coz i'm having problem understanding. i'll try my best to answer ur questions.

i. UTM SPACE programme is not accredited. meaning even after 7 years, u will not get exempted from LAM part 1 or 2 exams. but there are a number of SPACE graduates who have successfully sat for the LAM part 1 and 2 individually. the degree offered is for both parts 1 and 2.

ii. u have to see UTM SPACE as a mobile/flexible programme. if there are more students in the south, then they might not open a center in KL for that semester. the same if there are a large number from east malaysia, then we will open a center there. it's all catered on semester basis. so regardless of where u study, it's exactly the same programme, taught by the same lecturers.

iii. poly diploma does not compete with STPM. refer diagram 4.0 in the 1st post. poly diploma goes to 2nd year, while STPM goes to 1st year.

iv. i know UPM do, but i'm not sure about UKM. but whatever it is, i have not heard of any circular or policies that bars poly students from joining any of those IPTAs. in fact, i believe it is against government policies for them NOT to take poly graduates. that is, as long as they satisfy the requirements and qualify.

well, the schools have changed quite a bit since the last i checked. even UTM have greatly changed in the last 18 month. UTM lately have been focusing on development of individual students, basically going for holistic approach. the students have the choice to be what kind of architect they wanna be, and the school will support it. so in UTM at the moment u have several units of expertise where u can specialize in: environmental, sustainability, urbanism, technology, regionalism, parametric design, socio-cultural, theoretical and process-based design. it's all up to the student to choose.

but in the next few years, UTM will be transformed into adopting BIM (building information modeling), where it will go back to become a highly technical and technologically biased school.

i know UPM have been going for sustainability, where the entire course is geared towards GBI and all that green thingy.

UM on the other hand is focusing on practicality, pragmatic and real-world architecture. heck, they have a large number of architects going in and out of their school, u cant miss stumbling upon one .

USM have always been strong on research and publication, but the students are well known to be trained as excellent managers and project administrators, despite them not openly acknowledging so. the in joke is, if u take a UTM, UM and USM graduate, u'll complete an office. the UTM will do the technical design, the USM will manage it, and the UM will keep it real. and then the UiTM will come in and kick the project away (bcoz diorang kerja JKR or local authority lol).

I am interested to know about the races of student who has attended the interview, how's the ratio?

Concerning your question:
'Are there any architectural firms that give out scholarships or loans?' in 1.4, I actually read a scholarship provided by some contracting / building company which the term is to work in their company for at least N years / forever. Are those companies counted as 'firm'?

it is almost equally distributed between bumi and non-bumi. for the non-bumi group, we had about 15% of them indian.

well, usually in this thread, firms mean architectural firms. but in context of the discussion, as long as they provide scholarship for ur studies and allow u to become an architect when working with them, go for it!

But those are private companies I guess?

Does unaccredited by LAM means you can't even work in private companies is it? Basically just interested to know this general knowledge, not going for private though~

This post has been edited by yen2009: Apr 19 2011, 10:26 PM

all firms practicing architecture in malaysia, regardless private or public, are bound to the law set by the governing body that is LAM. if u dont hold a valid license, u cant practice legally. period.

of course, there are people practicing illegally or just below their capacity in order to gain enough experience to sit for the exams.

How's your opinion about construction and corruption?
Old people are recommending me not to work for government because of corruptions, that really tie me up.

There is corruption both in public and private sectors. It depends on you, how steadfast you hold on to your principles. Of course, there are more opportunites in the public sector especially when you are part of an approving authority.

There are not many job openings in the public sectior these days. The sizeable jobs are farmed out to the private sectors. Architects in the public sector, where JKR is the biggest employer, end up doing management and administrative work. JKR, being an engineer dominated department, have their engineers to administer their projects, which further restricts the scope of work of the architects. Salaries in the government service is low compared to the private sector especially when you go into your own practice.

Unless one takes a scholarship and is bonded to work for the government, I see no reason/incentive for graduate architects to join the public service.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Apr 20 2011, 07:33 PM

Thanks for replied Mr Aza.
It seems like utm giving more open studying environment for the students.

I ever saw one 5th year student designing church during Dr taj. bought her in as visting lecturer and students. I was so impressed by open policy which I never thought ipta could allows to do that.

architecture department, regardless of IPTAs, are known to be defiant against conformity. u'll find it quite liberating, especially when compared to secondary school lol.

but the hardest part for us, is to break the minds of the students to realize and accept the liberal approach that each architectural schools use. for example, it's hard to break the minds of asian students, particularly in malaysia, so that they would be willing to stand up what they believe in and argue their statement against a number of jury. most of them tried, but quickly fell into the realm of arrogance hahaha.

i truly understood what u r trying to talk.

i had an experience which was one of my school part-time studio lecturer trying to propose the design topic to the school but got rejected because it was religious building (medium scale) ...

just an announcement to those applying for Bachelor of Architecture UTM:

+ The interview will take place next week on the 28 and 29 April.
+ No letters will be sent out. You MUST check your offer online via UPU website.
+ There will be 3 centers: UTM KL, UTM Skudai and Sarawak (possibly Kuching, but I don't have the details yet).
+ Check your time, date and venue for the interviews. If you need to change anything, please give UTM a call.

Good Luck!

Mr Aza.
Are you one of the interviewers ? lol..

According to http://upu.mohe.gov.my/, we can only check our status on 25th April 2011. Im wondering is there any alternative to know it earlier ?.I'm sorry cause i need to apply leave from company.

tq

try and check tomorrow or over the weekend. we've already got the list, so it should be available online soon. i guess u could just apply for leave, regardless. if u didnt get the offer, give UTM a call. depending on ur STPM results, they might just say "come in for the interview. we'll see how good u are".

and yes, i'll be interviewing in KL.

Astonished.

hi azarimy,may i know if it is a necessity for my portfolio works to be certified? what if i only have a few pieces of works to be shown, say less than 10? May i also include photoshopped pics?

yes, we prefer it to be certified. if it's an original, u may certify it at the back.

u may bring as many works as u want, but doesnt mean the more u bring the higher chance u will get. sometimes only one golden work is required, while a ton of bricks wont do any good.

the nature of work may vary. photoshopped works may be included. but remember, we're looking for creativity. ask around and see how much creativity do they think exists in the act of photoshopping.

Hope I will be chosen for the interview btw. I'm applying for b archi under diploma and setaraf.

how many places are they for degree part 1 upcoming utm intake?

good luck and all the best.

30 places. about 3000 applicants.