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 So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE? Version 3, A guide to becoming an Architect

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post Apr 25 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 25 2011, 06:57 PM)
call the head of department of urban planning  and/or landscape architect.

i'm not gonna give u any numbers. it's readily available on utm website. go do a little digging.
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k~ ty!
mr, can i ask for architecture interview, even i choose urban planning/ landscape architect as my 3/4th selection in upu application form?
actually, im interesting in architecture, jz bcos the upu system limited mi to choose all of my selection as architecture...
appreciated for helping mi ~

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JayRainbow
post Apr 25 2011, 07:40 PM

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Yes... i been accepted for UTM's Architecture Interview =)
sir azarimy, u going to be interviewer at KL ?
is yes, i going to meet u =)

anyway, wat clothes should i wear ? formal ? can wear jeans ? sport shoe ? 0.o

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QUOTE(rayno @ Apr 25 2011, 11:20 AM)
k~  ty!
mr, can i ask for architecture interview, even i choose urban planning/ landscape architect as my 3/4th selection in upu application form?
actually, im interesting in architecture, jz bcos the upu system limited mi to choose all of my selection as architecture...
appreciated for helping mi ~
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only a few courses conduct interview.

and...

i dont understand the rest of ur question... lol.

QUOTE(JayRainbow @ Apr 25 2011, 11:40 AM)
Yes... i been accepted for UTM's Architecture Interview =)
sir azarimy, u going to be interviewer at KL ?
is yes, i going to meet u =)

anyway, wat clothes should i wear ? formal ? can wear jeans ? sport shoe ? 0.o
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congratulations. yes, i will be in the KL interview. what day did they call u?

wear something proper, stylish and outstanding. u wanna look smart and professional, like a designer. and no school uniforms please.
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post Apr 25 2011, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 25 2011, 08:47 PM)

congratulations. yes, i will be in the KL interview. what day did they call u?

wear something proper, stylish and outstanding. u wanna look smart and professional, like a designer. and no school uniforms please.
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wow... my interview date is 8am, 29th april... the time so early >.<
anyway can i know wat time will the interview finish ?

means i can wear jeans and sport shoe ? since jeans and sport shoe more comfortable for me =)

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QUOTE(JayRainbow @ Apr 25 2011, 01:01 PM)
wow... my interview date is 8am, 29th april... the time so early >.<
anyway can i know wat time will the interview finish ?


usually by noon.

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means i can wear jeans and sport shoe ? since jeans and sport shoe more comfortable for me =)
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u willing to bet ur future on them?

what if ur need to be comfortable on friday means u will not live a comfortable life in the future? wink.gif.
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post Apr 25 2011, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 25 2011, 09:05 PM)
u willing to bet ur future on them?

what if ur need to be comfortable on friday means u will not live a comfortable life in the future? wink.gif.
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means ? >.< wear formal ? need suggestion >.< i wan do well for my interview
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post Apr 25 2011, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(JayRainbow @ Apr 25 2011, 01:21 PM)
means ? >.< wear formal ? need suggestion >.< i wan do well for my interview
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shall i tell u what u wanna hear, or shall i just let u figure it out urself?
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post Apr 25 2011, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(JayRainbow @ Apr 25 2011, 09:21 PM)
means ? >.< wear formal ? need suggestion >.< i wan do well for my interview
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What's the objective? To give your interviewer the best impression, right?
Casual wear is a no-no for interviews, whether it's for getting into a uni, getting a scholarship or getting a job.
It gives the impression that you are not giving the interviewers due respect.
You don't have to be overly formal but at least dress to look smart. It's common sense la!

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QUOTE(JayRainbow @ Apr 25 2011, 09:21 PM)
means ? >.< wear formal ? need suggestion >.< i wan do well for my interview
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If your going for a job interview, will you go in jeans and a tshirt or in slacks and with a tie?
It's just a few hours of uncomfartableness. You want to give your interviewers a good impression of you.
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post Apr 26 2011, 01:05 AM

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Mr. Azarimy, can u recommend me some good books on working drawing and for design (besides Francis D.K Ching's)? thanks in advance ya~
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post Apr 26 2011, 05:57 AM

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I am impressed by how quickly version III of this topic has grew since its inception just last month.


It is great that UTM's usual full 5 year degree program has now successfully been 'transmogrified' into a standard & renowned international 3 + 2-masters format. (UTM's Part 2 program will definitely be in my list of consideration for the future. smile.gif)

Some of my best works in diploma are currently at progress (in Taylors), and my final semester is, at present, in full-swing; so as a result, I will (sadly) not be able to make it to the upcoming degree intake in May 2011, for UTM. (As much as I would like to fight the battle to stand the gap between the middle earth!)

I, however, maintain my respect for this mature & established institution for Architecture - UTM. (Quite a significant number of my lecturers from the Division of Architecture at Taylors are graduates from this renowned institution of Architecture, and I realized there is usually a certain level/kind of knowledge & maturity demonstrated by these lecturers in tutorials, lectures, & critic sessions which tend to be profound; and interestingly in a style that is either liked or disliked by students- but I happened to be the type that enjoys it all very much, seeing it all happening in front of me during crit. wink.gif)

I have some questions out of my curiosity if you don't mind:

- How does the standard in UTM (at present), compares to its standard say in about 10 - 15 years ago (as in back in our lecturer's tertiary education time-line)?

- What was the primary focus/style/philosophy of the architecture school back then?

- Today, is UTM more focused onto design/theory/philosophy/concepts, or is it more focused into building or architectural - technology/construction/science/functional designing?

- If UTM switches over to BIM in the future (a new work-flow & process for students - correct me if I'm wrong), would creativity/uniqueness in/of students be severely 'diminished'; due to the nature & 'rigidness' of the BIM system?


Regards & now proceeding back to nocturnal-noon work shift in a cold - vast - empty studio boring plain space...

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QUOTE(coollove @ Apr 25 2011, 05:05 PM)
Mr. Azarimy, can u recommend me some good books on working drawing and for design (besides Francis D.K Ching's)? thanks in advance ya~
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i dont think there's a single book that anyone would recommend for design. but for working drawings, try and look for technical magazines like DETAIL or the likes. there's also several working drawings handbook (google!) published that u can refer to. but remember, working drawings, although mostly standard, evolves through time. especially when new technologies or techniques are introduced. so i'd start with old, established books, but then quickly move on to the more recent ones.

also remember that working drawings do tend to be localized. meaning conventions used in the US might not be applicable in malaysia. heck, some of the things in johor can be very different from KL. but those are just minor. concentrate on the gist of it!

QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Apr 25 2011, 09:57 PM)
I am impressed by how quickly version III of this topic has grew since its inception just last month.
It is great that UTM's usual full 5 year degree program has now successfully been 'transmogrified' into a standard & renowned international 3 + 2-masters format. (UTM's Part 2 program will definitely be in my list of consideration for the future. smile.gif)

Some of my best works in diploma are currently at progress (in Taylors), and my final semester is, at present, in full-swing; so as a result, I will (sadly) not be able to make it to the upcoming degree intake in May 2011, for UTM. (As much as I would like to fight the battle to stand the gap between the middle earth!)

I, however, maintain my respect for this mature & established institution for Architecture - UTM. (Quite a significant number of my lecturers from the Division of Architecture at Taylors are graduates from this renowned institution of Architecture, and I realized there is usually a certain level/kind of knowledge & maturity demonstrated by these lecturers in tutorials, lectures, & critic sessions which tend to be profound; and interestingly in a style that is either liked or disliked by students- but I happened to be the type that enjoys it all very much, seeing it all happening in front of me during crit. wink.gif)

I have some questions out of my curiosity if you don't mind:

- How does the standard in UTM (at present), compares to its standard say in about 10 - 15 years ago (as in back in our lecturer's tertiary education time-line)?

- What was the primary focus/style/philosophy of the architecture school back then?

- Today, is UTM more focused onto design/theory/philosophy/concepts, or is it more focused into building or architectural - technology/construction/science/functional designing?

- If UTM switches over to BIM in the future (a new work-flow & process for students - correct me if I'm wrong), would creativity/uniqueness in/of students be severely 'diminished'; due to the nature & 'rigidness' of the BIM system?
Regards & now proceeding back to nocturnal-noon work shift in a cold - vast - empty studio boring plain space...
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did u know that even if u havent finished in taylor's, u COULD still apply with ur pre-final results? but it's too late now wink.gif. btw, dont forget to keep a copy of ur works. some diploma students we interviewed always gave an excuse that their school "kept the drawings, that's why i didnt bring any today" yadda yadda yadda....

to answer ur questions:

the standard is very different nowadays. we've changed quite a lot in the last 10 years that those who graduated during my time would not even recognize them. this is due to the major change of teaching philosophy from a highly technical based to a more open ended, constructive and highly specialized approach. meaning, 10 years back, ALL UTM graduates are very technical based. they have little ability to explore the theoretical or philosophical aspect of architecture, but they can damn sure construct a building and draw the very detail of it just from memory!

nowadays, it's a matter of choice. the highly technical path is still available. students may choose to follow the old school. but there are other specializations that they may venture into. for example, the environmental and sustainability path. this is still highly technical, but also involves in a lot of environmental physics, computer simulations, calculations and experiments. so if u look at their works, it'll be very hardcore science almost engineering, and from a perspective of those graduating over 10 years ago, it'll be an unfamiliar approach.

so back to the standards, if u were to force me to answer it, i'd say the technical aspects have toned down. our diploma school now specializes on building a strong technical base, just like polytechnic diploma. but we have grown to other aspects even more.

i understand there's a lot of concern over the rigidity of BIM system. but like i said before, sketchup can be extremely rigid as well. but people quickly mastered sketchup and did things that even the makers of sketchup never imagined it could do. it's the same with BIM. sure, it'll take a whole lot longer to master BIM software compared to sketchup (which can be mastered in under 2 hours).

we have the core qualities comfortably firm. it's just a matter of taking the next step it producing a more holistic architect. UTM used to be very strong technically. then the school shifted into specializations and the technical aspects have been toned down. by introducing BIM, we can increase the strength of technical knowledge amongst the students WITHOUT sacrificing their ability to specialize!

win-win!


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Hello, I come from Sabah. This Saturday (30/4) I have a USM architecture interview at kota kinabalu. But, just now I checked I have another architecture interview from UKM which is also on this Saturday (30/4). What should I do?
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QUOTE(yongyz @ Apr 26 2011, 10:35 AM)
Hello, I come from Sabah. This Saturday (30/4) I have a USM architecture interview at kota kinabalu. But, just now I checked I have another architecture interview from UKM which is also on this Saturday (30/4). What should I do?
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Tell them about it, that the two interviews are on the same date.
Request for one of them to be changed to a different date. You have a valid reason the request.
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QUOTE(yongyz @ Apr 26 2011, 02:35 AM)
Hello, I come from Sabah. This Saturday (30/4) I have a USM architecture interview at kota kinabalu. But, just now I checked I have another architecture interview from UKM which is also on this Saturday (30/4). What should I do?
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what tehtmc said.

however, u may need to consider something here. UKM i believe only conducts the interview once. USM conducts the interview at several centers, possible on different dates. give them both a call. find out alternatives. it is possible that u can go to UKM, and then go to USM's in penang.
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QUOTE(coollove @ Apr 26 2011, 01:05 AM)
Mr. Azarimy, can u recommend me some good books on working drawing and for design (besides Francis D.K Ching's)? thanks in advance ya~
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The two fields are too wide to be covered in a single book, or even in a few books.
Unlike other fields, you don't learn design so much from textbooks than by doing. It is more of an art.

For construction (working drawings), you learn the principles from books, drawing and analysing details and observation. It is both a science as well as an art. Contstruction details not only have to be functional, they also have to look orderly and aesthetic.
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Can someone help me on a few questions regarding LAM accreditation?

If i were to take my diploma in LUCT then continue my part 1 and part 2 degree at one of the recognized overseas institutions listed in http://www.lam.gov.my/accreditationlist.html , am I exempted from the part 1 and part 2 exam? or do i still have to take both exams even though i have fully completed the degree and masters at the instutution?

Any help is much appreiated. smile.gif
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QUOTE(123.abc @ Apr 26 2011, 04:57 PM)
Can someone help me on a few questions regarding LAM accreditation?

If i were to take my diploma in LUCT then continue my part 1 and part 2 degree at one of the recognized overseas institutions listed in http://www.lam.gov.my/accreditationlist.html , am I exempted from the part 1 and part 2 exam? or do i still have to take both exams even though i have fully completed the degree and masters at the instutution?

Any help is much appreiated.  smile.gif
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Unfortunately, you are required to take LAM Parts 1 & 2 as part of your degree, even though a small part, was done in an unaccredited uni ie. LUCT. The degree may be accredited by RIBA/ARAIA but not by our LAM.

This would probably set you back by another year.

Surprisingly, a lot of students taking this route are not aware of this.

Have you started the diploma in LUCT?

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Apr 26 2011, 05:23 PM)
Unfortunately, you are required to take LAM Parts 1 & 2 as part of your degree, even though a small part, was done in an unaccredited uni ie. LUCT. The degree may be accredited by RIBA/ARAIA but not by our LAM.

This would probably set you back by another year.

Surprisingly,  a lot of students taking this route are not aware of this.

Have you started the diploma in LUCT?
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So even though i have completed my part 2 degree fully in an accredited school i am still required to take the part 2 exam? blink.gif Am i exempted from certain papers from the exam? what is the difference between being accredited by RIBA/overseas boards and LAM? If i were to work overseas am i required to be registered by LAM? Or is it jus sufficient to be registered by RIBA/ overseas architect boards?

And no i haven't started the diploma in LUCT yet. I am thinking of applying for the july intake in the borneo campus as i am from East Malaysia. I wanted to apply for the utm diploma but was too late by the time i fond out about it. unsure.gif

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