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senyii
post May 20 2011, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ May 19 2011, 03:25 PM)
Yesterday baru 'thinking' to resign, today already resigned?  tongue.gif
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actually been thinking to resign frm past few months..but i tell m self to try to withstand so i can get more experience...till yday i can't stand anymore when they ask me to go to site to work under sun while i am sick..

QUOTE(ed1torz @ May 19 2011, 03:27 PM)
even the company not paying you right, doesn't mean you need to resign and thereafter start looking for job. bad planning.

if you have a very bad work environment, then its ok. otherwise, your on the losing side.

interview can be afterworking, lunch and etc, if you want a professional job
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i rather rest at home then work for free...I hv total about 15 day replacement leave n if i continue to work it will become more n more and in the end they will only pay back 50% of the leave..

meanwhile speaking bout interview...i dun even hv time for interview as I am stuck at site from 9am to average of 9pm..then weekends n public holiday aso got work...one more pt is that my site location is in selayang whereby most of job i applied is in PJ/Shah Alam side, it will take at least an hour to go for interview..

QUOTE(enmavel @ May 19 2011, 04:41 PM)
1) replacement leave - tat is ridiculous... but do u need to inform them when u apply for the leave whether u want to deduct from replacement leaves or annual leaves?

2) MC - tat's very inhumane too...

i think u better resign then smile.gif
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1) at first they say yes will deduct frm replacement leave but now they say deduct my salary, furthermore the boss tell me to use NKVE but account say will only pay based on LDP... I started to think they are being very unfair....

2) i am so stupid to think that my boss is very pity as he dun hv enough worker to be onsite and he say he has many meeting to attend...

well now i want to rest for a while before I start finding another job...
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post May 20 2011, 01:56 PM

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yeah, this kind of companies will squeeze every last drop until dry. maybe u can rest for 1 month or so.
i did not apply for any job in malaysia, but there are quite alot of vacancies i saw 2 or 3 months back.
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post May 20 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(andoril @ May 20 2011, 01:56 PM)
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yeah, this kind of companies will squeeze every last drop until dry. maybe u can rest for 1 month or so.
i did not apply for any job in malaysia, but there are quite alot of vacancies i saw 2 or 3 months back.
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yeah next week got interview already...finger cross :-)
then where did u apply job?
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post May 20 2011, 04:24 PM

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diploma & 4 years in accounting field u can get higher than your current salary~
previously i equip with diploma & degree & 2yrs plus experience, a company in KL offer me rm2.4k as salary~
so, u can use that as a "benchmark"~
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i got an offer!!! RM2.5k as Account Exe, but the office is kinda far for me, & the working hour 8.30am-6pm.....
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post May 20 2011, 10:28 PM

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[quote=P.YAN,May 20 2011, 04:24 PM]
diploma & 4 years in accounting field u can get higher than your current salary~
previously i equip with diploma & degree & 2yrs plus experience, a company in KL offer me rm2.4k as salary~
so, u can use that as a "benchmark"~
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i got an offer!!! RM2.5k as Account Exe, but the office is kinda far for me, & the working hour 8.30am-6pm.....
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wow, not bad~ too bad got offest by the far distance and working hours~ tongue.gif
dont worry, keep looking and u'll find one suits u
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post May 21 2011, 05:47 AM

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what is the basic salary range of Senior Buyer in EMS MNC ? thanks you

just want to know the figure. Thanks you
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post May 21 2011, 08:42 AM

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im curious about this.....im sorry if this question is asked before
what is the salary if work in Genting casino ?
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post May 21 2011, 08:45 AM

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@Darren-C
I'm a bit direct, but how come people do not use their brain when asking?

You could be a garbage cleaner / dealer / cashier / waiter / pit boss / etc and all the pay scale is different.
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post May 21 2011, 08:28 PM

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what about airline industry? any idea? and usually how long usually u can ask for increment? and how much it would increase?
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post May 22 2011, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ May 21 2011, 08:45 AM)
@Darren-C
I'm a bit direct, but how come people do not use their brain when asking?

You could be a garbage cleaner / dealer / cashier / waiter / pit boss / etc and all the pay scale is different.
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ok sorry my brain is not as good as yours

i mean casino dealer's pay

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post May 22 2011, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(tntdiablo @ May 16 2011, 10:47 PM)
Age: 24
Job Title : Senior IT Executive
Job Desciption : IT Support...new warehouse implementation
Years spent : 1year 2months
Education: Diploma in IT
Company: MNC Logistics company
Employment Level : IT executive then promoted to senior
Experience before joining : 2 yeara
Gross salary : RM 3.6k + RM300 petrol card
Working Hours: 9am-6pm

A competitor offering me RM4.6k for senior system engineer..should i accept???
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Hey tntdiablo, if u don't want ur current job, perhaps you should introduce me in for ur position replacement. brows.gif
Here is my current job description

Age: 23 (younger 1 year than u)
Job Title: MIS Executive (u become Senior IT for 1 year + only rclxms.gif not bad!)
Job Description: Analyst Programmer (Develop & enhance business application) + Support (Weighing system, Planner, Production and Warehouse) Work like a cow rclxub.gif Programming + Support
Years spent: 1 years (ngam-ngam this month)
Education: Degree in Computer Science Majored in Network & System (Not even related to programming at all icon_question.gif )
Company: Public listed Manufacturing company (conquer 70% of waste paper market in Malaysia drool.gif )
Employment Level: Still as a MIS Executive (chances to get promoted very little cry.gif )
Experience before joining: None (but have successfully develop 5 major project for the company without any help from the senior, I'm just freshie only!)
Gross salary: RM2.1K ONLY + NO ALLOWANCE + NO PETROL EXPENSES + NO TRAINING PROVIDED + ALL BENEFITS GIVEN TO SENIOR ONLY vmad.gif
Working hours: 8am - 5.30pm (longer 1/2 hours than u yawn.gif )

If u in my situation, I bet u will run away already, but I'm still working with them, Why? Because all my application been rejected! sad.gif
So consider to give me ur current job to me?

This post has been edited by heartbreaked: May 22 2011, 01:59 PM
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post May 23 2011, 05:15 AM

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Anyone with an MBA? What are you making?
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post May 23 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(heartbreaked @ May 22 2011, 01:38 PM)
Hey tntdiablo, if u don't want ur current job, perhaps you should introduce me in for ur position replacement. brows.gif
Here is my current job description

Age: 23 (younger 1 year than u)
Job Title: MIS Executive (u become Senior IT for 1 year + only  rclxms.gif not bad!)
Job Description: Analyst Programmer (Develop & enhance business application) + Support (Weighing system, Planner, Production and Warehouse) Work like a cow rclxub.gif Programming + Support
Years spent: 1 years (ngam-ngam this month)
Education: Degree in Computer Science Majored in Network & System (Not even related to programming at all  icon_question.gif )
Company: Public listed Manufacturing company (conquer 70% of waste paper market in Malaysia  drool.gif )
Employment Level: Still as a MIS Executive (chances to get promoted very little  cry.gif )
Experience before joining: None (but have successfully develop 5 major project for the company without any help from the senior, I'm just freshie only!)
Gross salary: RM2.1K ONLY + NO ALLOWANCE + NO PETROL EXPENSES + NO TRAINING PROVIDED + ALL BENEFITS GIVEN TO SENIOR ONLY vmad.gif
Working hours: 8am - 5.30pm (longer 1/2 hours than u  yawn.gif )

If u in my situation, I bet u will run away already, but I'm still working with them, Why? Because all my application been rejected! sad.gif
So consider to give me ur current job to me?
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Hey, I pity you...

1. Since you said you have done few major projects, do you state them all down in yoru resume? If yes, the employees should be interested in your working experience, no?

2. RM2.1k for current company? But you have done 5 major projects all alone, no? Somemore no allowance and benefits etc shakehead.gif
If I am you I also want to run!
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post May 23 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(heartbreaked @ May 22 2011, 01:38 PM)
Hey tntdiablo, if u don't want ur current job, perhaps you should introduce me in for ur position replacement. brows.gif
Here is my current job description

Age: 23 (younger 1 year than u)
Job Title: MIS Executive (u become Senior IT for 1 year + only  rclxms.gif not bad!)
Job Description: Analyst Programmer (Develop & enhance business application) + Support (Weighing system, Planner, Production and Warehouse) Work like a cow rclxub.gif Programming + Support
Years spent: 1 years (ngam-ngam this month)
Education: Degree in Computer Science Majored in Network & System (Not even related to programming at all  icon_question.gif )
Company: Public listed Manufacturing company (conquer 70% of waste paper market in Malaysia  drool.gif )
Employment Level: Still as a MIS Executive (chances to get promoted very little  cry.gif )
Experience before joining: None (but have successfully develop 5 major project for the company without any help from the senior, I'm just freshie only!)
Gross salary: RM2.1K ONLY + NO ALLOWANCE + NO PETROL EXPENSES + NO TRAINING PROVIDED + ALL BENEFITS GIVEN TO SENIOR ONLY vmad.gif
Working hours: 8am - 5.30pm (longer 1/2 hours than u  yawn.gif )

If u in my situation, I bet u will run away already, but I'm still working with them, Why? Because all my application been rejected! sad.gif
So consider to give me ur current job to me?
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You from which company ler?
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post May 23 2011, 08:24 PM

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Age: 24
Job Title : Analyst Programmer / SW Engineer
Job Description : Application Developer
Years spent : 3 year 2 months
Education: Diploma in Computer Science
Company: MNC
Experience before joining : 0 years
Gross Salary : RM 3K with no other special allowances except for OT
Working Hours: 9am-5.30pm

Am i underpaid then? Currently develop web application via classic asp language. Considering jump over to ".Net".
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post May 23 2011, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ May 23 2011, 09:26 AM)
Hey, I pity you...

1. Since you said you have done few major projects, do you state them all down in yoru resume? If yes, the employees should be interested in your working experience, no?

2. RM2.1k for current company? But you have done 5 major projects all alone, no? Somemore no allowance and benefits etc  shakehead.gif
If I am you I also want to run!
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Well, all the projects that I've done was all about programming, I don't like programming so much as it was very exhausted , I wonder how many of my brain cells already dead, and yet my pay is not equivalent to what I've contribute. FYI, there is no feedback from my application because all the jobs that I applied not related to programming. I decided to stick back to what I majored in my degree course (Network & System). Perhaps my experience in programming does not help me in applying job related network or system.

As I joined this company, they told me I just need to do support for planner and production site only. They even told me I will have the opportunity to handle company server and network. That's why I'm agree to work with them and was so naive at that time .But all these are scams to attract me in with all sorts of hu ha. After I was confirmed as permanent staff, my scope of work getting broader, from planner -> production -> warehouse + programming for new project. Oh my...really work like cow.

Yup, my salary still RM2.1K, my department head is a very stingy guy, he likes to help my company saving a lot of money, feel like all the company assets are belong to him, that is why I'm hired with such a low pay as programmer. My bonus not even 3/4 of my salary, and the reason is I'm still a freshie, what to do, freshie is just a freshie sad.gif , u cannot outperformed the senior.

All the project assigned to me mostly done by myself, only get an advise from senior instead of help. Maybe they feel threaten as I'm a fast learner and everyone is manning their own bowl of rice, who will be so kind to help and get kicked at the end, that is the reality and I learned from it. But my patience do earn me an experience in programming which is not my field of expert.

But still I want to cabut lah icon_question.gif Any vacancy out there?

QUOTE(JamesChongWK @ May 23 2011, 01:56 PM)
You from which company ler?
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Why u want to know? U want to go there work is't? Then I sincerely invite you to join me laugh.gif


Added on May 23, 2011, 8:58 pm
QUOTE(KayDash @ May 23 2011, 08:24 PM)
Age: 24
Job Title : Analyst Programmer / SW Engineer
Job Description : Application Developer
Years spent : 3 year 2 months
Education: Diploma in Computer Science
Company: MNC
Experience before joining : 0 years
Gross Salary : RM 3K with no other special allowances except for OT
Working Hours: 9am-5.30pm

Am i underpaid then? Currently develop web application via classic asp language. Considering jump over to ".Net".
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3k for 3 years, hmm...I've no comment as my case worse than u, but u can jump ship as you have experience

At least u are focused on one language only, me have to know classic asp, perl for old system, VB6, VB2005 and asp.net(VB).
All mixed up and sometimes i get confused rclxub.gif
If u decided to venture into dot.Net, my advise is choose VB.Net as u will find it more easy to learn compare to C#
Some of the asp function or known as VBScript can be used in VB.Net, and once you proceed u may find it very familiar

All the best to you thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by heartbreaked: May 23 2011, 09:04 PM
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post May 23 2011, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(heartbreaked @ May 23 2011, 08:43 PM)
Well, all the projects that I've done was all about programming, I don't like programming so much as it was very exhausted , I wonder how many of my brain cells already dead, and yet my pay is not equivalent to what I've contribute. FYI, there is no feedback from my application because all the jobs that I applied not related to programming. I decided to stick back to what I majored in my degree course (Network & System). Perhaps my experience in programming does not help me in applying job related network or system.

As I joined this company, they told me I just need to do support for planner and production site only. They even told me I will have the opportunity to handle company server and network. That's why I'm agree to work with them and was so naive at that time .But all these are scams to attract me in with all sorts of hu ha. After I was confirmed as permanent staff, my scope of work getting broader, from planner -> production -> warehouse + programming for new project. Oh my...really work like cow.

Yup, my salary still RM2.1K, my department head is a very stingy guy, he likes to help my company saving a lot of money, feel like all the company assets are belong to him, that is why I'm hired with such a low pay as programmer. My bonus not even 3/4 of my salary, and the reason is I'm still a freshie, what to do, freshie is just a freshie  sad.gif , u cannot outperformed the senior.

All the project assigned to me mostly done by myself, only get an advise from senior instead of help. Maybe they feel threaten as I'm a fast learner and everyone is manning their own bowl of rice, who will be so kind to help and get kicked at the end, that is the reality and I learned from it. But my patience do earn me an experience in programming which is not my field of expert.
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I feel you.

I'm facing the similar situation - my boss doesn't willing to promote me nor give me bonus which equivalent to my ability, it's because throughout her experience, she hasn't hired a person like for my position, I'm the first who is able to 'suffer' and 'persevere', and able to handle 1 session of meeting with group companies, plus all other presentations in corporate meetings. This is according to what my colleagues who have been worked there for long time, I'm not boasting about myself. laugh.gif

My pay doesn't equivalent to my capability, too. smile.gif

What I can tell you is that don't give up in looking for greater opportunity. As long as you have the capability, you deserve better. One day you will find a job that pays you better. smile.gif
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post May 24 2011, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(heartbreaked @ May 22 2011, 01:38 PM)
Hey tntdiablo, if u don't want ur current job, perhaps you should introduce me in for ur position replacement. brows.gif
Here is my current job description

Age: 23 (younger 1 year than u)
Job Title: MIS Executive (u become Senior IT for 1 year + only  rclxms.gif not bad!)
Job Description: Analyst Programmer (Develop & enhance business application) + Support (Weighing system, Planner, Production and Warehouse) Work like a cow rclxub.gif Programming + Support
Years spent: 1 years (ngam-ngam this month)
Education: Degree in Computer Science Majored in Network & System (Not even related to programming at all  icon_question.gif )
Company: Public listed Manufacturing company (conquer 70% of waste paper market in Malaysia  drool.gif )
Employment Level: Still as a MIS Executive (chances to get promoted very little  cry.gif )
Experience before joining: None (but have successfully develop 5 major project for the company without any help from the senior, I'm just freshie only!)
Gross salary: RM2.1K ONLY + NO ALLOWANCE + NO PETROL EXPENSES + NO TRAINING PROVIDED + ALL BENEFITS GIVEN TO SENIOR ONLY vmad.gif
Working hours: 8am - 5.30pm (longer 1/2 hours than u  yawn.gif )

If u in my situation, I bet u will run away already, but I'm still working with them, Why? Because all my application been rejected! sad.gif
So consider to give me ur current job to me?
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Huh, it sad see how programmers are being paid this day. Work hard and long hours but paid with few pennies only. Bro, you already work there for 1 year already, I guess its time for your to look for another ship. I have few friends with only diploma and fresh grades getting RM 2k + RM 200 allowance + other benefits. They are only working as help-desk analyst btw.
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post May 24 2011, 02:38 AM

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Senior IT Manager
Requirements:
Typically degree qualified with a relevant technical qualification.
At least 6-9 years relevant work experience in helpdesk and service delivery environment.
Extensive managerial experiences which includes personnel management.
At least 5-7 years of experience leading, developing, coaching and managing a staff of IT professionals
Demonstrate strong organizational, motivational and negotiating skills
Ability to gather and analyze facts, draw conclusions, define problems, and suggest solutions.
ITIL certified is preferred
Very Strong written, verbal and presentation skills
Working experience in supporting financial services environment is an added advantage
Demonstrated knowledge of “Problem Management” is an advantage

This is Malaysia's job advertised in leading online job provider.

Any chances to elaborate on this package? It doesn't need to be 100% accurate. But typical package based on your experience will do.

Simply to help to provide more information to the board.

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post May 24 2011, 09:57 AM

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Job Title : Accounts Manager
Job Desciption : Full set + reporting + budgeting, etc all accounts related stuffs
Years spent in company : 6 months
Company : Local Shopping mall mgmt
Industry : retail/shopping mall
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : manager
Experience before joining : 2yrs admin + 4yrs accounts
salary : RM 3.8k

Am i underpaid? feels upset with the company because som of the senior xec ot higher pay than me and the rest of those snr exec got same pay with me. haiz... dilemma

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