second this! which means get better result in matric.. that was my "downfall" sorta haha

I disagree.

I have seen an engineer selling insurance, Biotech graduate working as property leasing officer, EE Engineer working as graphic designer etc.

It's not the quality of the course that determine who you are, it's you yourselves that building working experience you're holding today and that mould you to a higher peak in yoru career.

you have your points...

but the truths is, most of well-known company no prefer to hire SPM, diploma level nowadays even though without any working experiences to maintain their company's status level... but only well-known company have bigger room for growth and learning and able to focus on particular tasks rather than working as kuli at small company...

unless u get the experiences from company and establish your own business then may different story...

Present
salary : RM3k + 1 month contractal + 200 fix allowance + unlimited phone allowance + performance bonus at most 1 month

Good offer ?

This post has been edited by dezmondlim: Jun 7 2012, 02:06 PM

My friend with Bachelor Degree in Occupational Safety & Health, with 5 years experience gain almost rm10k/month!

Job Title : Regional Communication Exec, SEA
Age : 28
Job description : Internal and External Communication, PR & Branding
Years Spent : 1 year plus
Work Experience before joining: 2.5 years
Company : Engineering Solutions Company (Scandinavian)
Location : Southeast Asia (6 countries) but based in KL
Tenure : Permanent
Employment level : Exec
Salary (basic): MYR5500
Allowance: MYR500 car allowance
Claim: Unlimited Phone Bill + Yearly new Phone (no limit on price)
Bonus: 15% of annual income
Advantages: Flexible working hours (can work from home as you wish), good working cultures, job advancement, allocated parking at office (FREE lar of course), etc.
Disadvantages: underpaid!!

My role is more like a Managerial role taking care of dotted lines in each country in terms of training and guiding them on local coordination of Communication activities. I seriously think I'm underpaid so I'm planning to have serious discussion with my Boss during my next PD talk.

Wish me luck!!

Job Title: Document Controller specialization in Final Documentation
Age:23
Education : SPM
Job Description : Final Doc. Preparation and handover to Client.
Years spent in company : Just start this week.
Experience : 3 years (Start working after SPM in many O&G company in Malaysia)
Company : IPS
Location: Malaysia @ Megan Avenue,KL.
Industry : O&G
Tenure : Probation period
Employment Level : Exec
Salary : RM3,200 with allowance ,if travel, pay up in Dollar if company sent to abroad project.
Increment history : RM700 > RM800>RM1100>RM1300>RM2000>RM3200
Previous last salary : RM1,300 (company somewhere at Perak) , got some offer at 1 company based in KL. They offer RM2,000 but then,
this company that i working now counter back my salary and offer me RM3,200. = )
maybe i just get lucky or finally someone can appreciate what im doing. lol

anyway,wish me luck.

This post has been edited by hardcoreangel: Jun 7 2012, 04:22 PM

dont tell, your education level here. got somebody here always been butt-hard with SPM people. anyway nice salary there.

This post has been edited by fiqir: Jun 7 2012, 04:38 PM

Disagree completely. If that's the case, then everyone should just work after SPM. Since you are implying that getting the university experience is not important. Can you be an engineer without going to university? Can you do research without graduating from BioTech? If everyone thinks like you there will be no advancement in our society since most ppl will not have the know how to create things. University also act as a platform to shape our thoughts. I am talking about a good university. Not a mediocore technical collage. Of course there are other more lucrative occupation that are not related to the field but it does not mean that everyone will do that.

lol . just think positive and im just sharing. btw, thanks dude.

But you will notice the common denominator is they all have a degree - the content of the degree may not be actually used but the paper helps them get into the door.

Not saying that a university education is a must-have to succeed, plenty of people who didn't go to university become pretty successful. But for 90% of people I would say that going to university makes the path upwards easier.

Problem is the % of plenty you said is how much? 10%? 20%? But I could said nowadays, will less the 5% is sucessful. As currently in the business, education is a must to be success. Life had change compare to 20-30 years ago.

Yes definitely its tougher now without a degree than before. But there are still avenues for people without a degree, such as sales or entrepreneurship, or working in a skilled trade. Plumbers, hawkers, welders can all make a ton of money if they are good. However for climbing up in the corporate world I do agree with you, a degree is a must nowadays...

that's why sometimes paper qualification is still important

Not sure if this is the right place.

I'm in IT web dev. 17 month working exp from 3 company.
Holding a degree in IT.

Current salary 2.5k. I saja2 go to a company interview and the interviewer offer me 20% more which is 3k.
What offered to me is it the standard salary for someone with my working exp?

Not that I'm complaining (in fact I am freakin happy ), just wondering

3k and your future compny based at.. ?

In Serdang, near The Mines

its quite ok,maybe you just can accept it.
told u what ..my working place offer 3.2k and hell in a town ,ampang park.
so far,can survive with that range of salary. =)

Yeah I was quite happy with it cuz the current company is like shiet.
Thanks for the reply.

It's 153 pages already. V5 anyone?