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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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lucerne
post Mar 31 2011, 03:17 PM

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the problem many oversea prefer to park their $ in msia high end condo even it is empty coz their FD rate/T-bill at home is very very low.
Tokyo, Singapore, ANZ -near to zero or less than 1%
HK, China, Taiwan, Korea, US, Europe - most less than 2%
if the rental yield is 3-4% they still think that it is high..., eg a million prop rent at 3-4k, it is easy to rent out at 3-4k/mth. some prefer to keep it empty as they dun want the hassle or they just want the capital appreciation. (that is why u see lot of empty units) remember they are about half to 1million Msian (esp Chinese) work oversea (rich countries and higher income) who prefer to buy prop in KL for retirement or passive income when return home. (as they still keep Msia passport) for them it is better to invest in kl prop which they are familiar with. These Chinese traditionally like to invest in prop vs stock, UT etc. they can buy KL prop like kacang putih coz oversea prop is much more expensive. they know how prop can make $ (from oversea experience) and they always look for long term /retirement plan etc. so i dun thin high end prop in KL will drop coz holding power is solid.
for mid end - the demand is even stronger driven by high end condo. Demand from locals (town or kampong), married couple, graduate, investors, speculators (eg business man, directors of listed co etc) KLSE has more than 1000 co, if each has 10 directors , their children, family members + biz man/woman in KL...+ those who untung from previos prop (some go refinance), + courage /flame from prop gurus ...the demand is super high.
this is very similar to bangkok , jakarta, ho chi minh, where the prop is relatively cheaper vs rich countries. so as "coolguy" has mentioned, if nothing serious happen in msia eg riot, war etc. the prop price will stay and still up up with no end. u will never go wrong if u invest in what chinese said -衣食 “住” 行.. clothing or something to wear eg jewellery, fashioncetc, food industry, properties, transportation biz. the demand is damn solid. unless our society become communist. so long we still live in capitalisme world. invest prop will never go wrong.
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post Mar 31 2011, 03:30 PM

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^ why all talk crap only for last few weeks ... econ so good go stock market la whistling.gif

Condo jia lat liao ... saw KM1 full page add in The Sun ... time to sharpen my knife blush.gif

This looks dam good if not auction blink.gif
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale
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post Mar 31 2011, 04:23 PM

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high-end Condominium Market in Malaysia still strong in prices even though rents are decreasing from past few years.

Lot of buyers are still having strong holding power.

Malaysian damn rich


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post Mar 31 2011, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Mar 31 2011, 04:23 PM)
high-end Condominium Market in Malaysia still strong in prices even though rents are decreasing from past few years.

Lot of buyers are still having strong holding power.

Malaysian damn rich
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figures please .... mine I should you Mont Kiara since 2010 and now .. 1mil prop drop till 600k thumbup.gif

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post Mar 31 2011, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(ivanachang @ Mar 31 2011, 09:46 PM)
figures please .... mine I should you Mont Kiara since 2010 and now .. 1mil prop drop till 600k  thumbup.gif
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Which one ohh
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post Apr 1 2011, 10:48 AM

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Election Pressure? So after election sure raise kao kao....

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CIMB in quick U-turn on BLR
KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Bank Bhd and CIMB Islamic Bank Bhd will not raise its base-lending rate (BLR) and base-financing rate (BFR). The two banks yesterday backtracked on their decisions in less than 24 hours after having announced a rise of five basis points on lending rates on Wednesday.
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post Apr 1 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Apr 1 2011, 10:48 AM)
Election Pressure? So after election sure raise kao kao....

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CIMB in quick U-turn on BLR
KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Bank Bhd and CIMB Islamic Bank Bhd will not raise its base-lending rate (BLR) and base-financing rate (BFR). The two banks yesterday backtracked on their decisions in less than 24 hours after having announced a rise of five basis points on lending rates on Wednesday.
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Good! Good! I will save quite a bit now.
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post Apr 1 2011, 01:55 PM

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invitation received to date for this coming weekend launch/preview/etc.:
1. elements @ jalan ampang
2. velocity @ jalan peel
3. Z-residence @ kinrara

are we expecting adverts or articles saying sold-out again??
kok_pun
post Apr 1 2011, 02:28 PM

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Z-residence in bukit OUG right?
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post Apr 1 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Apr 1 2011, 10:48 AM)
Election Pressure? So after election sure raise kao kao....

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CIMB in quick U-turn on BLR
KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Bank Bhd and CIMB Islamic Bank Bhd will not raise its base-lending rate (BLR) and base-financing rate (BFR). The two banks yesterday backtracked on their decisions in less than 24 hours after having announced a rise of five basis points on lending rates on Wednesday.
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what was the reason?
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post Apr 1 2011, 03:45 PM

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The reason CIMB reverse its earlier move because other banks did not raise BLR.

Anyway CIMB did the right thing.
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post Apr 1 2011, 04:41 PM

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ge13 will come after s'wak state elections.
gomen will freeze all rate hikes, gst, no petrol price up, no subsidy cuts - for now.
wait till bn win back 2/3 majority.
2012 - when they hike int rates, toll rates, petrol price n slap gst, wonder still got any money left to eat...
how to buy inflated price prop?
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post Apr 1 2011, 04:51 PM

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We are far from it? near to it? who knows...

http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/watch...-s-Ghost-Cities
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post Apr 1 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Apr 1 2011, 10:48 AM)
Election Pressure? So after election sure raise kao kao....

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CIMB in quick U-turn on BLR
KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Bank Bhd and CIMB Islamic Bank Bhd will not raise its base-lending rate (BLR) and base-financing rate (BFR). The two banks yesterday backtracked on their decisions in less than 24 hours after having announced a rise of five basis points on lending rates on Wednesday.
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they have been Reprimanded not to increase the BLR because the imposition on new rate for SRR that was effective today...
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post Apr 1 2011, 06:34 PM

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Sarawak polls will decide on early general election, says PM

yay.. election is coming to town !!

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post Apr 1 2011, 10:52 PM

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Can those new condo launching recently which is not in a strategic/ good location e.g. deep inside puchong, surrounded by low cost, etc selling for approx. RM350k can appreciate further?

If yes, say 20% in 2-3years times upon completion = RM420k? meaning those condo in better location launching now at approx. 550k will rise till RM650k.
How about those already completed now like Desa Parkcity Nadia condo, selling RM700k for 1100sf unit, or Kota damansara OPAL selling 600k for RM1400sf? will they soar to RM 840k/1100sf & RM720k/1400sf

If someone income now, as a Senior Engineer 35 , earning a gross income of RM6500, nett Rm5600. Can he expected his wages will rise 20% to RM7800 in 2years time without promotion in post.
Even now he is struggling for his RM400k condo he bought lately.
house 1,900.00
maintenance 200.00
car 600.00
petrol 300.00
hs utility bill 300.00
grocery 200.00
hp 150.00
food 700.00
parent 300.00
insurance & medical car 400.00
entertaimt (clubbing, yumcha) 200.00
hobby/ sport/ shoppin 200.00

total = RM5450. shocking.gif He spend almost all his money for the newly bought condo & renovation
and he is planning to get marry next year, still puzzling where to find money cry.gif
his gf only earning RM2800 gross nett RM2400. rclxub.gif
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post Apr 2 2011, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Apr 1 2011, 10:52 PM)
Can those new condo launching recently which is not in a strategic/ good location e.g. deep inside puchong, surrounded by low cost, etc selling for approx. RM350k can appreciate further?

If yes, say 20% in 2-3years times upon completion = RM420k? meaning those condo in better location launching now at approx. 550k will rise till RM650k.
How about those already completed now like Desa Parkcity Nadia condo, selling RM700k for 1100sf unit, or Kota damansara OPAL selling 600k for RM1400sf? will they soar to RM 840k/1100sf & RM720k/1400sf

If someone income now, as a Senior Engineer 35 , earning a gross income of RM6500, nett Rm5600. Can he expected his wages will rise 20% to RM7800 in 2years time without promotion in post.
Even now he is struggling for his RM400k condo he bought lately.
house                                1,900.00
maintenance                        200.00
car                            600.00
petrol                            300.00
hs utility bill                          300.00
grocery                            200.00
hp                              150.00
food                            700.00
parent                                  300.00 
insurance & medical car          400.00
entertaimt (clubbing, yumcha) 200.00
hobby/ sport/ shoppin            200.00

total = RM5450.  shocking.gif  He spend almost all his money for the newly bought condo & renovation
and he is planning to get marry next year, still puzzling where to find money  cry.gif
his gf only earning RM2800 gross nett RM2400.  rclxub.gif
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i hate to say this but as a engineer, you should be great at analysing skills. look at your structure. it's kinda a mess although i'm impress by your limits on entertainment expenses. a very discipline person indeed. okay, here goes:
1stly, i'm sure your income is slightly more if you squeeze in your allowances for handphone, mileage, etc.
2ndly, your hp usage seems a tad high at rm150/mth. maybe because package with unlimited broadband access?

ok, let's focus on task at hand. your big items: your installment. rm1900 for a rm400k condo. am expecting it to be fairly decent at this price. so what's stopping you from renting out the rooms? am sure you can gain back at least rm800 per month from there? since you are still single. even though when you do get married, there's no stopping you from continuing to rent the rooms out.
lastly, if rm6.5k ain't enough, be creative and look for part time jobs or seek better employment opportunity. senior engineer at rm6.5k, if in klang valley seems slightly below average.
good luck!

PS: run faster to escape the rat race. you are almost there! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 2 2011, 02:30 PM

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ok la, dun gamble la tongue.gif keep balls at home & kiss it
I was looking at another prop ,where the location got a lot of students around
the prop last transacted price jan2011 was 210k, went there in feb2011 asking 260k, now asking 360k - WTF??! vmad.gif

out there! its a dog eat dog world. chivalry is dead a long time ago. no point trying to change the world, adapt to it & survive cool2.gif
go buy those medium cost apt, rent it out, since ur landlord is doing the same things too hmm.gif
if feel bad depriving them of the medium cost apt, then do some donation to those needy folks brows.gif

QUOTE(TheDoer @ Mar 28 2011, 10:18 AM)
You're right,  if you can't beat them, join them.  The world is not perfect, lets exploit it.

It's called a 'home' for a reason.  So what if your home is worth much less than you paid for? It's still your home.   But your investment, now that's a different story.

If balls are needed, then it's a gamble. Why gamble with your "home"?  That's crazy. Buy only what we can afford.  Conclusion right now... cannot afford. It's not gambling.
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post Apr 2 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 2 2011, 12:52 PM)
i hate to say this but as a engineer, you should be great at analysing skills. look at your structure. it's kinda a mess although i'm impress by your limits on entertainment expenses. a very discipline person indeed. okay, here goes:
1stly, i'm sure your income is slightly more if you squeeze in your allowances for handphone, mileage, etc.
2ndly, your hp usage seems a tad high at rm150/mth. maybe because package with unlimited broadband access?

ok, let's focus on task at hand. your big items: your installment. rm1900 for a rm400k condo. am expecting it to be fairly decent at this price. so what's stopping you from renting out the rooms? am sure you can gain back at least rm800 per month from there? since you are still single. even though when you do get married, there's no stopping you from continuing to rent the rooms out.
lastly, if rm6.5k ain't enough, be creative and look for part time jobs or seek better employment opportunity. senior engineer at rm6.5k, if in klang valley seems slightly below average.
good luck!

PS: run faster to escape the rat race. you are almost there! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hey man! thanks for ur advice, 1st of all this is not me, just my very close fren.
That is a 2+1 bedrom aprtmt, and i dont think he can rent his room out coz his parents is coming quite often almost evry weekend or fortnightly.
Besides he is a Civil/ building Senior Engineer with contractor, RM6.5k below average? Siaul shocking.gif I am in this industry too, I would say that is an average pay now!
On tops, Gamuda is offering tht salary too lately.

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property is dam too expensive nowadays... seems like developer r pushing their price n make us all suffer..


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