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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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jib3000
post Mar 8 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 8 2011, 10:29 AM)
what is SRR actually ?  sorry very very noob here..
they say they  believe only.. its not confirmed yet.. u sound like they are very sure that it will be maintained..
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SRR mean Statutory Researve Requirement - to control liquidity and credit in the market .. current SRR is 1% .. normal time is around 3-4 %... increase in SRR by 1% will reduce liquidity in the market by 7 to 8 Billion RM...

one of the tool of central bank to control inflation and other stuff...

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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...1&if_height=494

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jib3000
post Mar 9 2011, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Mar 8 2011, 02:04 PM)
OOT.  This will reduce the money supply. But will it really reduce inflation?

I mean, even if cash is hard to come by, and the mamak, uses the same excuse that sugar naik, and increase his prices, and every other sectors followed. Then it would appear that inflation isn't effected, instead the lack money in the system will cause bank negara to print more money or reduce the SRR again?

I donno. Just asking.
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im not sure whether it wil work or not .. but in jan & feb, China increase the OPR & SRR to reduce the inflation and to cool down the hot property market overthere.. its also instructed a few banks to be more selective in providing loans to consumer ... to control property price from going up...
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post Mar 9 2011, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Mar 8 2011, 07:53 PM)
i think it also hard for them to buy house since most of people nowdays got personal loan and credit card debt to service... in addition to car loan and education loan..
jib3000
post Apr 1 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Apr 1 2011, 10:48 AM)
Election Pressure? So after election sure raise kao kao....

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CIMB in quick U-turn on BLR
KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Bank Bhd and CIMB Islamic Bank Bhd will not raise its base-lending rate (BLR) and base-financing rate (BFR). The two banks yesterday backtracked on their decisions in less than 24 hours after having announced a rise of five basis points on lending rates on Wednesday.
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they have been Reprimanded not to increase the BLR because the imposition on new rate for SRR that was effective today...
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post Apr 5 2011, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Apr 5 2011, 09:22 AM)
Received some wind from the top.

Be very prepared for the next storm looming right after GE.

Crude oil now Usd108 how come no hike on fuel? Why so steady and silent? No like Pak Lah 30% hike? Learned from mistakes?

Actually nothing new but just confirmation. Yup, they are going to abolish all subsidies pertaining to petrol, diesel, rice, fertilizer, (don't know abt medicine) .... Malaysians have been pampered way too long. Time to bite the bullet. So further inflation coming right after election.

Cannot imagine what going to happen next. All the best 1Malaysians!
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in addition to that in Q3 this year, BNM will start to implement new Guidelines on Lending and Affordability to reduce the high household debt in msia.. certain segment of people will be affected.. hopefully this control will indirectly mitigate the insane house price.. my two cent
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post Apr 6 2011, 11:14 AM

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yup.. but the figure reported does not reflect the overall market sentiment in addition the property price are still not coming down to more sensible figure..

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post Apr 6 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Apr 6 2011, 12:38 PM)
+1  biggrin.gif  i'm in the group who's waiting..
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me too biggrin.gif


Added on April 6, 2011, 2:56 pm
QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Apr 6 2011, 11:42 AM)

Hints :
1. CIMB increase interest rates but subsequently reversed. (In other words: interest rates will increase in this or next quarter, it won't be prolonged)

2. Companies that have high gearing actively proposing right issues. (Prevent the increasing borrowing cost impact the company's financial position and cash flows)

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CIMB increase rate due to SRR effective 1april that was imposed by BNM... but they are being told not to increase the rates because of the SRR that is why there reverse it...

most analyst believe that OPR will go up by 100 basis point in 2HY... as BNM as indicated that they want that OPR to be back in good old days figure.. BNM defined it as " normalisation of the interest rate "

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post May 9 2011, 09:50 AM

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KUALA LUMPUR, May 9 — Unhappiness among young adults over high property prices could result in social upheaval and possibly even impact election outcomes despite a government move to launch affordable housing schemes.

More and more young adults who comprise a growing portion of the electorate are putting off buying a house and say that property prices have reached a point where it could result in lower standards of living and impact productivity due to the need for long commutes or young adults leaving for higher paying jobs overseas.

Property prices have not been used as election issues in the past but have become a lightning rod of discontent across the Causeway where the opposition has used it to garner popular support in last weekend’s Singapore general election.

Twenty-something KL media consultant Angela Ooi, who called her cohorts “the homeless generation or urban sprawl generation”, said she gets the impression that the government is more concerned about Gross Domestic Product (GDP) figures and not the predicament of young adults.

“Does the government really care or are they OK as long as they enjoy a flow of revenue from property development and the economy is active?” she asked.

And while she doubted it will emerge as a major election issue here, she would definitely welcome it if a politician would bring it up.

“I would be very happy if any MP raised this issue,” she told The Malaysian Insider.

But Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak announced last Friday the government will launch an affordable housing scheme for houses below RM220,000 under a public-private sector partnership. He did not give details but said it would be launched in June or July.

Najib’s announcement came after the National House Buyers Association (HBA) warned that an entire generation of young adults risk being locked out of the property market due to runaway house prices.

HBA secretary-general Chang Kim Loong said the rapid inflation of assets has put house ownership beyond the reach of young adults.

“The prices are exorbitant and beyond the reach of young adults,” Chang told The Malaysian Insider. “The price increases are not commensurate with salary increases. How are young adults going to catch up (with house prices)?”

A young adult accountant with a multinational in KL who wanted to be known as Rais said that he feels house prices have been manipulated and become prohibitive, even for professionals, and the property sector should be more socially oriented and less profit motivated.

“Imagine my generation not being able to afford a home,” he said. “If people are riled up, then yes, it can be an election issue, depending on how it is argued.”


Pavilion shopping mall in Kuala Lumpur. Cities could lose their vibrancy if the young generation have to live far away or work overseas.One 29-year-old tuition business entrepreneur, who only wanted to give his first name of Amin, said that he finds property prices in and around the city very expensive and “beyond reach” except for Bukit Antarabangsa which had been hit by sensational landslides in the past.

He said property prices were overshadowed as an election issue in Malaysia due to other matters such as corruption but noted the similarity of complaints between Malaysians and Singaporeans over the impact of foreign buying.

“In Singapore corruption has been sorted out and now the big election issue is how to bring things back for the locals,” he told The Malaysian Insider. “I think property prices have gone up a lot in Malaysia due to foreigners. Who is Malaysia for?”

Another twenty-something multinational accountant in KL who gave his first name Patrick said that more and more of his friends have put off buying a home due to the cost.

While he managed to recently purchase a 600 plus sq ft condo about 15km away from the city centre for about RM550 per sq ft, he said that he would find it easier as a local who can fall back on his parents while other young adults may not be so lucky.

“In the coming years it will be a big issue if youth cannot afford to buy a property,” he said.

“They’ll either have to squat somewhere or work overseas to earn enough money. We need the government to be pro-active in providing good quality housing.”

He agreed with Amin however that housing as an issue has so far been overshadowed.

“We as a country have so many other issues such as finding good jobs; those are the primary issues,” he said. “The problem now is the awareness of the cost of property.”

He noted that the cost of property could lead to a generation deep in debt and questioned the demand for high-priced property.

Noting that reports put the percentage of the tax-paying public at only about 10 per cent and the taxable threshold is less than RM3,000, then it could mean either about 90 per cent of working Malaysians earn less than RM3,000 or there is a massive case of tax evasion.

“If the bulk of people earn less than RM3,000 and prices of property are so high and keep going up, that will be a big issue,” he pointed out.

Patrick also said that if property prices absorb an increasingly large percentage of a person’s income, it will lead to a lower standard of living.

“People will have to keep eating at the mamak and more and more cannot survive on one income,” he said. “There will be a lot of anxiety and it’s very scary to think about.”

Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Chor Chee Heung told The Malaysian Insider that the fear that young people feel of being price out of the market and therefore having to buy a home quickly was “unfounded.
“Don’t rush to buy a house now,” he advised. “Once the KL MRT is ready, there will come a time when it will be affordable for someone with five years’ experience to afford a house.”

He also said the government was in “the early stages” of forming a national housing board to build public housing in a more structured and streamlined manner.

Asked if he saw affordability of property becoming an election issue, he replied that “some politicians may use it.”

Real Estate and Developers Association (Rehda) president Datuk Michael Yam said house prices needed to be looked at holistically and suffered from cost push factors such as rising land costs and building material costs.

He also said that KL was becoming a global city and prices were going up to global levels.

“I was recently in London and saw a friend’s daughter’s new apartment in Chelsea which cost about £360,000 (RM1.8 million) before subsidy for 300 sq ft,” he told The Malaysian Insider, saying that people will have to get used to buying smaller apartments in line with trends in developed nation cities.

Yam added that landowners in KL were “asking the sky”, which pushed up the land replacement costs for developers.

He denied perception that foreigners were pushing up property prices, saying that he has statistics showing that foreign participation in Malaysia was minimal.

The Rehda chief noted the costs of social responsibility and cross-subsidies such as low cost housing requirements and Bumiputera discounts and “indirect taxation” such as cost of sewage infrastructure affected the prices of houses to the end consumer.

“Five years ago, low-cost houses cost RM52,000 but are sold at RM42,000,” he said, adding that the difference between the cost and selling prices was probably higher now.

He agreed however that KL could lose some of its economic vibrancy if young adults were forced to live in distant areas outside the city.

“The wealth of a city is in its people,” he noted.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...y-young-adults/

my tax dollar is being used to pay for this kind of minister..dammit...


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