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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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post Mar 29 2011, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 29 2011, 10:05 AM)
Of coursi, our dear ministers, Datuk-datuk & politicians are the giant speculators, they are not like you and me, owning 0-10 properties, but hundreds, they are the group who worry the most on price dropping brows.gif
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"Ini membeban rakyat" not rakyat diutamakan...jeez!
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post Mar 29 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 29 2011, 03:12 PM)
Why you want or need to refinance?
I believe the mortgage rate you were getting 2009 time, is pretty low.
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Well rates now are the same or better. Some banks are offering up to BLR-2.4 now so its good. I wanna refinance to get more cash in hand to reinvest in another property. Dont wanna use up my current funds.
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post Mar 30 2011, 07:27 AM

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A very accurate account of what is happening in Melaka. More of a tourist boom they say.
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post Mar 30 2011, 01:29 PM

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HK's Li Kah Shing encourage ppl to buy prop now to fight inflation

李嘉诚吁港人买楼抗通胀
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/cz/cz110330_001.shtml

(2011-03-30)

● 戴庆成 香港报道
  被外界誉为“李超人”的李嘉诚,昨天一如既往,不改其健谈本色,对投资香港楼市者指点迷津。

  长和系主席李嘉诚表示,如果市民购买住宅用作自住,是绝对没有错,因为通胀未来一定会继续出现,也会更加严重。

  李嘉诚昨日在长和系业绩记者会上表示,目前楼市的二手市场向好,香港市民对楼市仍然有需求,相信通胀将会来临,若市民有足够资金,有三成至四成的楼价作为首期,买单位自住最合适。  他指出,在过去几十年,即使最高价时买入单位,以现时计算仍然是便宜。


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post Mar 30 2011, 05:25 PM

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will the wave of BBB continue? KM1 follow by the impressive Capers.
coming up next is jaya one launch this weekend.
batter up!!
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post Mar 30 2011, 09:09 PM

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Anyone has an opinion about Johor and the Iskandar project? Will it flop or does the idea - Singaporeans would want landed property work?
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post Mar 30 2011, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(joecashflow @ Mar 30 2011, 09:09 PM)
Anyone has an opinion about Johor and the Iskandar project? Will it flop or does the idea - Singaporeans would want landed property work?
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Lot of projects in Johor Bahru will be launching. mahsing, sp setia, dijaya, UemLand, UmLand, BRDB and many other local players are there.


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post Mar 30 2011, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 30 2011, 01:29 PM)
HK's Li Kah Shing encourage ppl to buy prop now to fight inflation

李嘉诚吁港人买楼抗通胀
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/cz/cz110330_001.shtml

(2011-03-30)

● 戴庆成 香港报道
  被外界誉为“李超人”的李嘉诚,昨天一如既往,不改其健谈本色,对投资香港楼市者指点迷津。

  长和系主席李嘉诚表示,如果市民购买住宅用作自住,是绝对没有错,因为通胀未来一定会继续出现,也会更加严重。

  李嘉诚昨日在长和系业绩记者会上表示,目前楼市的二手市场向好,香港市民对楼市仍然有需求,相信通胀将会来临,若市民有足够资金,有三成至四成的楼价作为首期,买单位自住最合适。  他指出,在过去几十年,即使最高价时买入单位,以现时计算仍然是便宜。
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李嘉诚吁港人买楼抗通胀
can we ask 李嘉诚 what to do with malaysia property market? sweat.gif
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post Mar 30 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Mar 30 2011, 10:06 PM)
李嘉诚吁港人买楼抗通胀
can we ask 李嘉诚 what to do with malaysia property market?  sweat.gif
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Sell your properties in Malaysia and buy in Hongkong..LOL
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post Mar 30 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Mar 30 2011, 11:26 PM)
Sell your properties in Malaysia and buy in Hongkong..LOL
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HK condo HKD10k psf. rclxub.gif
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post Mar 30 2011, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(PUPUMAMA @ Mar 30 2011, 11:34 PM)
HK condo HKD10k psf.  rclxub.gif
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HKD10kpsf about RM5k psf?

As what Gavin's estimation in next 5 years.....LOL
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post Mar 31 2011, 08:53 AM

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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...31&sec=business

CIMB raises BLR/BFR rates


KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Bank Bhd and CIMB Islamic Bank Bhd have announced an increase in their base lending rate (BLR) and base financing rate (BFR) by five basis points from 6.3% to 6.35%, effective from April 4.

A statement by the CIMB Group said that the change in the rates followed Bank Negara's decision to increase the statutory reserve ratio requirement by 1% to 2% with effect from tomorrow. Bernama


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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Mar 30 2011, 11:44 PM)
HKD10kpsf about RM5k psf?

As what Gavin's estimation in next 5 years.....LOL
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RM5K/sf is average condo price in HK. Gavin's RM5K/sf is referring the most expensive Super condo. HK super condo has priced >RM10K/sf already (Malaysia average condo price is around RM380/sf only)
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QUOTE(godutch @ Mar 31 2011, 08:53 AM)
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...31&sec=business

CIMB raises BLR/BFR rates
KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Bank Bhd and CIMB Islamic Bank Bhd have announced an increase in their base lending rate (BLR) and base financing rate (BFR) by five basis points from 6.3% to 6.35%, effective from April 4.

A statement by the CIMB Group said that the change in the rates followed Bank Negara's decision to increase the statutory reserve ratio requirement by 1% to 2% with effect from tomorrow. Bernama
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Ouch! That is the price of one happy hour jug of beer.
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post Mar 31 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 31 2011, 09:00 AM)
RM5K/sf is average condo price in HK. Gavin's RM5K/sf is referring the most expensive Super condo. HK super condo has priced >RM10K/sf already (Malaysia average condo price is around RM380/sf only)
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Can share with us how you get an average of rm380psf in Malaysia for condo?

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post Mar 31 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 31 2011, 09:00 AM)
RM5K/sf is average condo price in HK. Gavin's RM5K/sf is referring the most expensive Super condo. HK super condo has priced >RM10K/sf already (Malaysia average condo price is around RM380/sf only)
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5 years ago when my cousin finished high school and while waiting for her application status (to Uni), she worked as a receptionist and her pay was HK9K a month biggrin.gif


Added on March 31, 2011, 9:28 am
QUOTE(New Klang @ Mar 31 2011, 09:00 AM)
Ouch! That is the price of one happy hour jug of beer.
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LOL.

but the message is that, interest rates will only go up smile.gif

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post Mar 31 2011, 09:40 AM

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I am starting to believe I can negotiate for BLR-3% in future
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Mar 31 2011, 09:21 AM)
Can share with us how you get an average of rm380psf in Malaysia  for condo?
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Fr property article, I believe so. If 3 yrs fr now, I think possible reaching RM600/sf
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Mar 31 2011, 09:21 AM)
Can share with us how you get an average of rm380psf in Malaysia  for condo?
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I bet he get this number by condo he bought.... lol...
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post Mar 31 2011, 11:51 AM

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I'm new here, just like to share my opinion.

I think we can't generalize the entire market. I see significant oversupply in some area and some sectors, but high demand in other areas or sectors. For examples, I think high end condo in certain areas are almost certain to soften as they are too many vacancies. Even though the investors may be cash rich and have holding power, they may realise that it's not worth the holding while they can invest into something else. However, in some areas such as the southern areas of KL like Puchong & Bukit Jalil, the commercial is still booming and population is growing significantly. I don't see how the market can go down in near future, unless there are some very major external factors.

As for affordability, it is not that relevant. The reason is we are essentially still a developing country where the most wealth is held by a smaller population. As long as this group of people maintain their holding power the market will be OK. However if this group of people start rushing out in the event like major riots, then the market will crash. The best example would be Thailand and Indonesia, their income or GDP per capita is way lower than ours in Malaysia, but the property prices in Bangkok and Jakarta are higher than us. How can the general Thai or Indonesian population afford the properties? Do we see a crash in their property market? Not unless there's a major riot like the one in Indonesia in 1998.

Just my 2 cents worth...

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