I think im understand abit. Thnx

So u mean God is there but he's not doing anything and our role is to worship him for being there? Kinda make sense to me compared to the god help u thing..

INTERESTING debate here..hehe

It is no point for you to mistreat Christians and put them down when you are actually angry at God.

put it this way..and correct me if i'm wrong..

whatever that you can change with ur own accord, He will not do anything about it even if u pray from 12am to 12am next day but if it's something u cannot change or do with ur own power and strength, that's where He will play the role of helping u..

one example.

u are having an exam, one thing u can change:u can study and pay attention in class...etc
one thing u cannot change: the questions that come out, the teacher's mood when marking ur paper, the answers u might write on the day.

So, when u pray, u pray for good results and hope that He will bless you throughout the thing,keep u healthy and stuff like tat,
then u also study hard for the exams and believe that He will be there for u when u need it like during the exam time.

Hope it helps u to understand!

Ah yoh ..... you really never read anything I posted did you

You are deceived that God is here to help you for your goal and needs ???

Your Sin have separate between you and God.

God is a holy God.

As long as you hold on to your Sin,

You are the one who is pushing Him away.

Im not mistreat christian or angry at god.. please dun mizunderstand

Imjust seeeking answers to strengten my faith but in the process other chrisitans dont have the answers and due to my question get angry cos i questioning their faith which they not really haf.. that cause them to be unsure of their faith and make them confuze

sorry bout dat

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

I am afraid you are going to be very disappointed by going on this track ....

God has His plan and purpose ... but it is NEVER about your plan. Even His plan for believers is not about them but for HIS need.

I din sin also. If you're saying wat mortal sin that im born wif and crap liek dat then no point discussing.

I got read.. just din read the stone cold 3:16 tldr stuff

Let go of your pride, Let go of What you think is right.

Allow Him to be your Lord. This means give Him the Sovereign Right as God.

Let Him come into your life.


You will find Him.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 30 2012, 02:06 PM

Indeed, this is the very thing you are accusing us for and you yourself are standing on your premise. When we touch that premise, you are "offended". The point was we "pull" out the very foundation of arguments that you are standing on ... you became defensive ...

Then how to discuss?

3:16? John 3:16?? I don't think I quoted that

I can see Wintersun is trying to troll or something

How to let him come into my life?

Im not defensive or angry.. im just sayin...

so u r means i sin bcos of the mortal sin born with thingy? then there nothing i can do lo

troll your head.. im not like u.. im genuine answer seeker

By using your mouth, say:

Admit you are not right before God.
Acknowledge and Believe Jesus is the one who died for your Sin, Call Him as your Lord and Savior of your soul.
Stop all acts of sinning.


That's it.


3 Simple phrases.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 30 2012, 02:12 PM

Ok said.

Indeed. It will not be a stretch that based on this very "small" truth of constituted sinners are all the problems of the world. This is why we need salvation. But then the goal of salvation is not just to save us from sin. That is too low of God's standard or His will.

But then, this is not what you are looking for if you are standing on your premise that "God is just a God who blessed you when you prayed to Him", a spare tire God.