I thought I made it clear - suicide in a moment of "weakness". Not offing yourself just so you can get a quick way to heaven (which is a different thing altogether).

So how are you going to repent when you are dead? I'm sure you know that we live on after death!

Explain your "Weakness"

ur name make me think u r from fgh?

is it true?

dun think he/she wants to die badly..like i said..that person has depression and it's just that one second of decision that person then took the crazy decision to do it..so can i say wat u gave here somehow applies to someone who wants to die..but not to my case?

thanks for the replies though,

Christians sin. They can lie, they get tempted, they steal, they kill others, they can kill themself.

The weakness I have in mind is roughly this - An otherwise honest, believing Christian who for some reason (death of someone close, dumped by someone, accumulated depression) decides to kill him or herself in a "moment" (which can be premeditated or a split second decision) of exceedingly poor judgement. That person, I think, would not be instantaneously condemned to hell for that one sin.

That is my opinion, and you have shared your thoughts as well. I leave it to the original questioner to decide.

Matthew 4:
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c]”

7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[d]”


So, taking your example of what you said, if Jesus was "to make" this 1 second decision to just jumped. He would have SINNED and we're all doomed.

This should have answered your question clear cut

This post has been edited by fghvbn: Mar 30 2012, 03:14 PM

would love to have some explanation to the verses you give..cos i might misunderstood ur words as saying that person wanted to test God by 'throwing herself down'.

You don't lose your salvation just because you've sinned. If that were true, we would all need to be constantly & continually confessing repentence under our breath every 2 minutes.

Repentance comes from the heart, you ask for "FORGIVENESS" and "TURN BACK TO GOD" from "THE SIN YOU HAVE JUST COMMITTED".

Don't tell me, you just said the F- word, you ask for "forgiveness" and then continue using it for every next 2 minute just because you feel good about it. That's not repentance, that's TAKING advantage of God's grace making it look "CHEAP" for you. But in fact you forgotten that Jesus bled his Blood for you.

I am merely challenging your premise that when you commit suicide you go to hell because you had no chance of repenting of that sin. Tell me this: Let's say you argue with your wife/whatever and got angry and said F*ck off b*tch (i.e. you sinned). That very instant you had a stroke and died. Do you go to heaven or hell?

Err... let us not get into this argument of Calvinistic versus Arminianism salvation view

I think we be more concerned with those us are still alive and have opportunity to be matured in the divine life.

Isaiah 29:13 ESV

And the Lord said: “Because this people draw near with their mouth and honor me with their lips, while their hearts are far from me, and their fear of me is a commandment taught by men,

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

James 1:26 ESV

If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

Revelation 21:8 ESV

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”


The way to the Kingdom of God is narrow, that will only depend on your relationship with God. That's not for me to decide.

y u don wan answer my question

Hi all,

Bro vincabby has somehow give me light in God. The thing make me lose faith got a bit explanation.

Still cant accept like last time cos of got lose faith b4. Need find way for god enter life again.

What is FGH? =_= ? my nick does not determine where I'm from

Their way of answer question is by quoting stone cold 3:16 from a book which 90% of the time u probably dun understand wat it all about. Maybe they also dun really understand but simply quote lol

Why complicate things so? Wouldn't you agree that salvation is nothing more than believing/confessing/etc that Christ came to earth and paid the price for our sin so that we would have everlasting life?

Ezekiel 18:31-32
New International Version (NIV)
31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

That's what I just meant ?

Errr you said "The way to the Kingdom of God is narrow, that will only depend on your relationship with God. That's not for me to decide." And posted a bunch of scripture that seems to imply that one can never be sure of his/her salvation.