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SUSfghvbn
post Mar 30 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 02:12 PM)
Ok said. smile.gif
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you don't just say it, you mean it in your heart that you want to change/repent, not say it as if it's an empty word.

Human sees your action, God sees your motive.


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post Mar 30 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 02:12 PM)
Ok said. smile.gif
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Ask God to reveal himself to you.

Start with the Bible.

Read the Book of John.


Allow me to pray for you.


Father I Praise you are a Faithful God.

Lord, WinterSuN sincerely want to know you.

Lord you say when 2 or 3 are gathered in your name,
You are there and Lord, you said when 2 are in agreement in prayers, you will answer.

Lord, I pray for you to reveal yourself to WintersuN as he read your words.

Let your words speak deep into hi heart.

Let your Holy Spirit come unto Him and guard him and protect him from ALL the attacks of the evil one.

I commit WintersuN into your mighty hands.

In Jesus Name I pray, Amen.



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post Mar 30 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Mar 30 2012, 02:15 PM)
Indeed.  It will not be a stretch that based on this very "small" truth of constituted sinners are all the problems of the world. This is why we need salvation. But then the goal of salvation is not just to save us from sin. That is too low of God's standard or His will.

But then, this is not what you are looking for if you are standing on your premise that "God is just a God who blessed you when you prayed to Him", a spare tire God.
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so wat i shud do?

Wat the purpose of god to u? If base on the other guy explanation theni can acccept and got logic. The one say God is not do anything but create the universe, etc etc and we are just to worship him cos he give us the sun, trees, etc etc
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 30 2012, 02:17 PM)
Ask God to reveal himself to you.

Start with the Bible.

Read the Book of John.
Allow me to pray for you.
Father I Praise you are a Faithful God.

Lord, WinterSuN sincerely want to know you.

Lord you say when 2 or 3 are gathered in your name,
You are there and Lord, you said when 2 are in agreement in prayers, you will answer.

Lord, I pray for you to reveal yourself to WintersuN as he read your words.

Let your words speak deep into hi heart.

Let your Holy Spirit come unto Him and guard him and protect him from ALL the attacks of the evil one.

I commit WintersuN into your mighty hands.

In Jesus Name I pray, Amen.
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Thanks..
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Mar 30 2012, 02:16 PM)
you don't just say it, you mean it in your heart that you want to change/repent, not say it as if it's an empty word.

Human sees your action, God sees your motive.
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Enough bruder.

Love require us to think the better of others.

if he has said it, I believe he did.

Give him the benefit of doubt.
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 02:18 PM)
Thanks..
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You are most welcome.

Have Faith.

Believe.

That is all that is required.
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:21 PM

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new question..wat happens to believers who commited suicide? it's not cos of a sane mind but they faced depression and all that. They always say they will not do it, but in the end it happened. So wat you guys think?
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 30 2012, 02:20 PM)
You are most welcome.

Have Faith.

Believe.

That is all that is required.
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thank.. u the most understand person i met online. Like a father
lycaphim
post Mar 30 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 30 2012, 02:21 PM)
new question..wat happens to believers who commited suicide? it's not cos of a sane mind but they faced depression and all that. They always say they will not do it, but in the end it happened. So wat you guys think?
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My personal opinion - suicide is a sin (done in a moment of weakness and/or insanity), but a sin can be forgiven. But it's still between that person and God.
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 30 2012, 02:21 PM)
new question..wat happens to believers who commited suicide? it's not cos of a sane mind but they faced depression and all that. They always say they will not do it, but in the end it happened. So wat you guys think?
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1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (New International Version)

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.



To commit suicide literally means you'll end up in Hell.
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Mar 30 2012, 02:24 PM)
My personal opinion - suicide is a sin (done in a moment of weakness and/or insanity), but a sin can be forgiven. But it's still between that person and God.
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so from ur opinion, is that person going to heaven or to hell? I know the between person and God part but just wan from ur opinion..thanks. smile.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 02:23 PM)
thank.. u the most understand person i met online. Like a father
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Well congrats and you're most welcome again.

Just to let you know, your God is also like a Father.

When you come to Him, you can expect Him to be your perfect Heavanly Father who provides, heals, teaches and discipline

the child that He loves.


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post Mar 30 2012, 02:28 PM

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suicide sure go to hell

cos take short cut. If suicide can go heaven i think everyone will start to suicide so they can go heaven faster. That wat all christian been journey for to go heaven
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Mar 30 2012, 02:24 PM)
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (New International Version)

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
To commit suicide literally means you'll end up in Hell.
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Not really. Harming yourself, sexual sins etc. are sins against the body but they can be forgiven by God.


QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 30 2012, 02:25 PM)
so from ur opinion, is that person going to heaven or to hell? I know the between person and God part but just wan from ur opinion..thanks. smile.gif
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If that person is a Christian and committed suicide in a moment of weakness, I would say that he or she would (still) go to heaven.

This post has been edited by lycaphim: Mar 30 2012, 02:31 PM
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 02:17 PM)
so wat i shud do?

Wat the purpose of god to u? If base on the other guy explanation theni can acccept and got logic. The one say God is not do anything but create the universe, etc etc and we are just to worship him cos he give us the sun, trees, etc etc
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Sigh, tongue.gif I won't want to comment on others.

God’s intention concerning the church is first to produce many sons with His life (Eph 1:5). All these sons have the life of God and inherit all that He is, all that He has, all that He planned, and all that He accomplished.

Receive the Lord and just enjoy Him, His divine life as your life and content. The greatest joy is just to be saturated with God's life. It's that simple ... be a son inheriting all the divine riches of the Father.

This is nothing to do with your earthly possessions, spirituality or goals etc ....BUT TO SATISFY GOD's heart desire to have many sons of God.

That's the first step.

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post Mar 30 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Mar 30 2012, 02:31 PM)
Sigh, tongue.gif I won't want to comment on others.

God’s intention concerning the church is first to produce many sons with His life (Eph 1:5). All these sons have the life of God and inherit all that He is, all that He has, all that He planned, and all that He accomplished.

Receive the Lord and just enjoy Him, His divine life as your life and content. The greatest joy is just to be saturated with God's life. It's that simple ... be a son inheriting all the divine riches of the Father.

This is nothing to do with your earthly possessions, spirituality or goals etc ....BUT TO SATISFY GOD's heart desire to have many sons of God.

That's the first step.
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Amen



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post Mar 30 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Mar 30 2012, 02:30 PM)
Not really. Harming yourself, sexual sins etc. are sins against the body but they can be forgiven by God.
If that person is a Christian and committed suicide in a moment of weakness, I would say that he or she would (still) go to heaven.
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Philippians 1:20-26
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20 I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith, 26 so that through my being with you again your boasting in Christ Jesus will abound on account of me.
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Mar 30 2012, 02:54 PM)
Philippians 1:20-26
New International Version (NIV)

20 I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith, 26 so that through my being with you again your boasting in Christ Jesus will abound on account of me.
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Is there supposed to be a point here? smile.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:59 PM

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post Mar 30 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Mar 30 2012, 02:57 PM)
Is there supposed to be a point here?  smile.gif
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You are saved to do the work of God which is to share the good news (Gospel). If saving yourself by believing Jesus and killing yourself just because "You don't want to live anymore" is already a sin itself. Tell me how you're going to repent when you're dead.


Added on March 30, 2012, 3:03 pmOh by the way, you believe in the Lord because you want LIFE, not Death, it would be funny to see someone who wants to live to want to DIE so badly

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