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post Jun 19 2011, 07:23 PM

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The Jesus story is tooooo fake!!! I read the first part of the bible story if fit into todays context, you will realize its the same as a conman story. Just that the people illustrated in the bible seems gullible or maybe uneducated.

If Jesus exists in todays era, do you honestly think u guys will be his disciple and shit like that?

Example, his disciples Simon and Andrew the fishermens.

Here it goes:

As Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. 19“Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will make you fishers of men.” 20At once they left their nets and followed him.

doh.gif This story is soooo Disney channel fairytale. Someone just ask u follow him then u will immediately follow him?

I try to convince my self that Jesus is the saviour but the more i read the more skeptic i became thats why i stop reading the bible to at least save my doubt towards the bible storyline
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post Jun 19 2011, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jun 19 2011, 08:54 PM)
Christ in His incarnation came to earth not only to bring the infinite God into the finite man and to unite and mingle the Triune God with the tripartite man, but also to express the bountiful God in His humanity, His human living. God is bountiful in His rich and many attributes. The attributes of God are what God is. He is love, light, holiness, and righteousness. We all admire humility. The real humble One is God. He was the infinite God, but He humbled Himself to become a finite man. Philippians 2:6-7 says that He existed in the form of God, but He took the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men. Verse 8 says, "And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient even unto death, and that the death of a cross." He was in the form of God, but He humbled Himself to put on the form of man, becoming obedient to God, even unto the death of the cross. He became a servant, washing the feet of His disciples (John 13:1-11). God is the real One that is humble. Humility is one of the many attributes of God. God's attributes were expressed in Christ as a man to be Christ's virtues. Christ expressed the bountiful God in His human living, mainly expressing God in His rich attributes, that is, in the unsearchable riches of what God is.

When the attributes of God became the virtues of Christ in His humanity, these virtues were very aromatic and sweet. This is why so many people throughout the centuries have been captivated by Jesus and love Jesus. He is so sweet and good. Christ attracted and captivated people not by living His human life in the flesh but by living His divine life in resurrection.
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:03 PM

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Hi fellow brothers n sis in christ,

I wanna discuss When you go to church wat is your objective?
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:06 PM

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Worship God as in thanking him as a creator?

LEarn wat word?

Im ask becos i feel no meaning go church like waste time but cos is since young like habit. To me is meaningless.

Im wonder if u guys also go cos of habit and train since young but u actually dunno wat purpose u there.
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 27 2012, 02:11 PM)
No worshiping him because he has broken the chain of oppression, the chain of Financial Lack, the Chain of ignorance, the Chain of Negativism, The Chain of Doubt, etc etc but Most importantly of all the Chain of Sin which result in Eternal Death.

The word is the word of God, the most powerful thing in the world.

Many people feel the same like you do only because you yourself kept your distance from God.
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I dunno wat u toking bout lol

nevermind.. doesnt seem like there's a purpose
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 27 2012, 02:18 PM)
Well to put it simply, you cannot go where you want to go if you don't know where you are in life. Think about that for a moment. It's a powerful thought.

If you have questions or doubt about your Life, it's time for you to Ask God why do you need to go to Church.
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I donthave question about my life. I have plans and goals and know where to head and work towards it.

The only question i have is why do i go to chruch or even why do other ppl go to chruch? Whats in their mind? Most probably thinking abou dinner while in church
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:25 PM

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Im already hear the word more than 20 yrs and Im a good person.

Can it mean i have graduated and no more purpose to b there? Since its repeat every year.

Thats y i wonder y ppl go.
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:31 PM

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dafuq? u have a bible in front of you or just pull out from your head?

If like dat im sure u already have many revelation about the word. wat the purpose u still go church?
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 27 2012, 02:35 PM)
Nobody have 100% revelation of the entire Bible, God made it in such away so that we don't get lazy studying the bible everyday.
It's an everyday effort to know the Bible.

Hint: To know God's word is to know God himself. It's not easy. That's why we come to church to learn but the best Bible Teacher is the Holy Spirit teaching you in everyday life experience.

Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
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I think i havent reach that level to understand wat u toking
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 27 2012, 02:37 PM)
Haha ... we have a misconception about the church ... or "going to church"...

God’s intention concerning the church is first to produce many sons with His life (1:5). All these sons have the life of God and inherit all that He is, all that He has, all that He planned, and all that He accomplished. Every member of the church is a son of God and also will eventually be an heir of God. In this sense, God’s intention for the church is to multiply and reproduce Himself, to have a mass reproduction of Himself. If a man has many sons, all these sons are his multiplication. A few years ago, there was only the one man by himself, but today there are many of him—he is the original, and his sons are his duplication and multiplication. The multiplication of God is His family, and His family is the church.

Ephesians 1:5 speaks of the sonship. The real meaning of sonship is the multiplication of God. God is unlimited, but God still needs a great multiplication. After God created Adam, He told him to multiply and replenish the earth, that is, to fill up the earth (Gen. 1:28). God’s intention for the church is to produce many sons, to multiply Himself. John 12:24 tells us that the one grain would become many grains. The many grains are the multiplication, duplication, and reproduction of the one grain.
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i think u dun go church to multiply unsure.gif

that would be.. sick
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 27 2012, 02:40 PM)
I'm saying you can because

1 John 4:4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

If you refuse then you deceive yourself. that's the point.

It's wrong for somebody else to deceive others but to deceive yourself is a greater implication.
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 27 2012, 02:44 PM)
Haha ... again you fall back on your concept of "going to church".... it is not a place but an entity.

The church is the totality of the divine sonship. Originally, Jesus Christ as the unique Son of God was the individual expression of God. John 1:18 says, “No one has ever seen God; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” This expression of God by the individual Son, Jesus Christ, was a perfect expression, but it did not fulfill God’s goal. God’s goal is to have the totality of the divine sonship. As the redeemed, forgiven, saved, and regenerated sons of God, we have the divine nature of God (2 Pet. 1:4).

So the church is a group of people having the life and living of God, living out Christ on the earth today.
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Can u guys talk normal without the Jon 1:1 stuff?

I think i havent reachthe level yet
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 27 2012, 02:44 PM)
So the church is a group of people having the life and living of God, living out Christ on the earth today.
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So u mean the church is made up of all people not the building? Like dat there no point of me going to church but i carry the church with me without having go church lo. Now i kinda understand abit and is more logic than going churhc every week

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 27 2012, 02:46 PM)
okay here's something you might be interested in.

If you master a high level of God's word, you can do anything and everything in your life.
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not to insult but that kinda MLM talk abit laugh.gif
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post Feb 27 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 27 2012, 02:56 PM)
But you are still young in your Christian walk, you need for time being someone to guide you, that's why Churches have leaders and Care groups.

Alone is very hard to grow.
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im dont think im willing to go the christian walk. I dun even know if i believe in something i canot see or feel.
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post Feb 27 2012, 03:07 PM

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Im never oppose God. I been trying to seek god but no reply given so I give up.

If god is so caring why he never show me a sign to believe in him?

What do u do when u try to seek someone but no answer given? natural is to give up.

Im dunno wat reward and all that. Its just human talk from christai believer but nobody ever receive the reward.

I tink im more suit for world reward where u can see result of your labour than doing something whic no reply and dunno if its worth your effort
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post Mar 6 2012, 10:00 AM

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Unless God give me a sign that he exist if not Im not gonna blindly believe in something.

Christians say reward in heaven. How do they know that unless they are already dead? Its just a theory to gather more followers so can continue get donation.

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post Mar 6 2012, 10:28 AM

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Can u list down the miracle that boggle your mind? Its all your mind playing tricks on you just like u think theres a ghost or wat but its actually a cat at the back.

Nobody knows if Mary is really virgin or not. Anyone can claim anything ina book. As to Jesus proclaiming he's son of god, u have many people doing similar stuff in our age. The ajaran sesat islamic (forgot the name..sky kingdom or shit like dat) in terengganu with many wife did similar proclaimation.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 6 2012, 10:33 AM)
I was delivered from the bondage of porn Addiction.

I destroyed every pornographic materials willingly without holding back.

I tithe (donation as you said) my business money to God and He bless me back in multiple fold.

Many times I'm in financial needs but yet God delivered and provided beyond my needs.

All these was my God who provided. Not by own doing.

To name a few.
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I think the person u need to thank is yourself. I cannot seee God in your success. Maybe the only thing God provide is hope and something for u to believe in but nothing more than that.

If realy donate your biz money can get more more I will donate also when i start my biz so can get more wink.gif


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 6 2012, 10:33 AM)
I was delivered from the bondage of porn Addiction.

I destroyed every pornographic materials willingly without holding back.

I tithe (donation as you said) my business money to God and He bless me back in multiple fold.

Many times I'm in financial needs but yet God delivered and provided beyond my needs.

All these was my God who provided. Not by own doing.

To name a few.
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I think the person u need to thank is yourself. I cannot seee God in your success. Maybe the only thing God provide is hope and something for u to believe in but nothing more than that.

If realy donate your biz money can get more more I will donate also when i start my biz so can get more wink.gif

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post Mar 6 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 6 2012, 10:42 AM)
Why don't you try and resist lust and porn, see if you can even resist more than 2 months.

If you can.  smile.gif

That is no small matter.

That is why a lot of people still live by sight and have no success in their walk with God.
Nothing works out when all you know is living without Faith.
Even to have faith but not towards God will bring nothing to your life.

Jesus said Apart from Me you can do nothing. (John 15:5)
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I dun c wat so difficult to stop watching porn. Once a while i do watch like everyday last time. But then there's also time i never fap like few months and im doing great.

Faith in god is like gambling. U dunno if theres a reward or not. And u dont c it until u die.
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post Mar 6 2012, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 6 2012, 10:48 AM)
Try and totally stop and see if you can.  smile.gif

It's not just fapping but to avoid seeing anything lustful.  laugh.gif

See if you can.
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dafuq? y would i do that? Its against my nature and how God made me.

Unless im bapuk then i will stop everything lustful. Dun tell me u dun even look when big tit leng lui pass by? Then u can go b priest. Even priest have eretion la
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 6 2012, 10:55 AM)
That's why I know you cannot and you will find excuse to say it's in your nature. Of course those who are in Sin will feel that way to feel comfortable.

But Sin is destructive because Luke 11:34 Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are good, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are bad, your body also is full of darkness.

You feed unwholesome materials you will ultimately destroy yourself because from one sin it will lead to another. From one small little seemingly harmless fire it will spread to the point where it becomes uncontrollable.

Case and example porn will lead to lust and lust to coveting  and coveting you will destroy those you love around you. That's why there promiscuity, cheating and unfaithful relationship.
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dafuq? So u plan become a monk or priest? Or u haf ED then trying to justify your holy nature or something?

A guy who dont respond to seksual stimulation? hahahaaha


Added on March 6, 2012, 10:59 amI mean unless the porn is controlling your life making u addcted or wat is bad.

But for me im in control. I can choose when to watch or not to watch. I believe is same for many others

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