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post Mar 26 2012, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 26 2012, 11:12 AM)
Jesus wasn't divine because of Mary.

He is divine because He is the son of God, not the son of Mary.

This is what separates the divinity of Jesus from Mary.
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Actually, Jesus severed his ties with Mary when he was at his final moment on the cross, Jesus address Mary as woman and handed her to John his disciple whom he loved to take care of Mary.

Anyways I'm about to start a new topic here.

I am deeply sadden that a lot of "self-proclaim" Christian who calls themselves Christian but comes into office daily with F-word, smoking and basically there is no conviction in them. Grace of God to them seemed so cheap, taken for granted.

We really need a prayer (A LONG Prayer) on this.
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post Mar 26 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2012, 01:21 PM)
Im depression now cos not sure about my life direction.

Can u guys pray for me so I can find the direction to become rich?
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Riches will not make you happy.

You'll be rich & happy if you have the followings:

Matthew 5:
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Sorry, you can only pray to 1 God, it's either you worship Money or you worship God.

1 Corinthians 13:
1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.


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post Mar 26 2012, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 26 2012, 01:42 PM)
dafuq?~!!

ask u pray for me then u tell me rich cannot make me happy. Every individual is different bro~!!

if money cant make u happy doesnt mean cant make me happy. And im not worship money. Im just ask u help pray me success become rich. Then i can donate alot and make ppl happy also make me happy smile.gif
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Matthew 6:33

But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.



Don't be naive.
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post Mar 29 2012, 12:16 PM

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I have this problem, I overcame sin but after a long while i grow weary and i start to sin again.

How is it possible to block this sin in my mind from manifesting.

I almost went crazy fighting it, it's like constantly bugging me in my head
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post Mar 30 2012, 08:38 AM

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God spoke to me this morning.

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity

Romans 1:
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:57 AM

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post Mar 30 2012, 02:08 PM

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I can see Wintersun is trying to troll or something
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 02:12 PM)
Ok said. smile.gif
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you don't just say it, you mean it in your heart that you want to change/repent, not say it as if it's an empty word.

Human sees your action, God sees your motive.


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post Mar 30 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 30 2012, 02:21 PM)
new question..wat happens to believers who commited suicide? it's not cos of a sane mind but they faced depression and all that. They always say they will not do it, but in the end it happened. So wat you guys think?
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1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (New International Version)

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.



To commit suicide literally means you'll end up in Hell.
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Mar 30 2012, 02:30 PM)
Not really. Harming yourself, sexual sins etc. are sins against the body but they can be forgiven by God.
If that person is a Christian and committed suicide in a moment of weakness, I would say that he or she would (still) go to heaven.
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Philippians 1:20-26
New International Version (NIV)

20 I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith, 26 so that through my being with you again your boasting in Christ Jesus will abound on account of me.
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post Mar 30 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Mar 30 2012, 02:57 PM)
Is there supposed to be a point here?  smile.gif
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You are saved to do the work of God which is to share the good news (Gospel). If saving yourself by believing Jesus and killing yourself just because "You don't want to live anymore" is already a sin itself. Tell me how you're going to repent when you're dead.


Added on March 30, 2012, 3:03 pmOh by the way, you believe in the Lord because you want LIFE, not Death, it would be funny to see someone who wants to live to want to DIE so badly

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post Mar 30 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Mar 30 2012, 03:05 PM)
I thought I made it clear - suicide in a moment of "weakness". Not offing yourself just so you can get a quick way to heaven (which is a different thing altogether).

So how are you going to repent when you are dead? I'm sure you know that we live on after death!  biggrin.gif
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Explain your "Weakness"
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post Mar 30 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 30 2012, 03:08 PM)
dun think he/she wants to die badly..like i said..that person has depression and it's just that one second of decision that person then took the crazy decision to do it..so can i say wat u gave here somehow applies to someone who wants to die..but not to my case?

thanks for the replies though, smile.gif
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Matthew 4:
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c]”

7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[d]”


So, taking your example of what you said, if Jesus was "to make" this 1 second decision to just jumped. He would have SINNED and we're all doomed.

This should have answered your question clear cut

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post Mar 30 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 30 2012, 03:14 PM)
You don't lose your salvation just because you've sinned. If that were true, we would all need to be constantly & continually confessing repentence under our breath every 2 minutes.
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Repentance comes from the heart, you ask for "FORGIVENESS" and "TURN BACK TO GOD" from "THE SIN YOU HAVE JUST COMMITTED".

Don't tell me, you just said the F- word, you ask for "forgiveness" and then continue using it for every next 2 minute just because you feel good about it. That's not repentance, that's TAKING advantage of God's grace making it look "CHEAP" for you. But in fact you forgotten that Jesus bled his Blood for you.
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post Mar 30 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 30 2012, 03:21 PM)
I am merely challenging your premise that when you commit suicide you go to hell because you had no chance of repenting of that sin. Tell me this: Let's say you argue with your wife/whatever and got angry and said F*ck off b*tch (i.e. you sinned). That very instant you had a stroke and died. Do you go to heaven or hell?
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Isaiah 29:13 ESV

And the Lord said: “Because this people draw near with their mouth and honor me with their lips, while their hearts are far from me, and their fear of me is a commandment taught by men,

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’


James 1:26 ESV

If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

Revelation 21:8 ESV

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”


The way to the Kingdom of God is narrow, that will only depend on your relationship with God. That's not for me to decide.
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post Mar 30 2012, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Mar 30 2012, 03:27 PM)
y u don wan answer my question
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What is FGH? =_= ? my nick does not determine where I'm from
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 03:28 PM)
Hi all,

Bro vincabby has somehow give me light in God. The thing make me lose faith got a bit explanation.

Still cant accept like last time cos of got lose faith b4. Need find way for god enter life again.
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Ezekiel 18:31-32
New International Version (NIV)
31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!
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post Mar 30 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 30 2012, 03:29 PM)
Why complicate things so? Wouldn't you agree that salvation is nothing more than believing/confessing/etc that Christ came to earth and paid the price for our sin so that we would have everlasting life?
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That's what I just meant ?
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post Mar 30 2012, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 30 2012, 03:36 PM)
fghvbn...could u give explanations to ur verses and if possible, give us the verse u wan tat u're trying to make a point with.not throw the whole passage on our lap.

if u need to read from context, only then u post the whole thing thanks. I feel like being slapped with the bible at random pages, making me confused..and i'm sure ppl around are too..
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You must read your bible daily to know God more intimately.

Matthew 4:
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c]”

7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[d]”

This verse literally means that you shouldn't put your God to the test whenever you try to "ENDANGER" your life. Suicide is 1 way of testing God's power.

Take note, Jesus was FULLY Man when he was tempted. He could have just jumped and used his power to revive himself or even cause himself to float. But that purpose itself is WRONG. The same thing is with Suicide, you're testing God will SAVE you at the VERY moment. Do not do anything clumsy that is not from the WILL of God.

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post Mar 30 2012, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 30 2012, 04:01 PM)
yalo. Y other ppl marry christian must convert but christian cannot convert? Chistian > other ?
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2 Corinthians 6:14
14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?


Added on March 30, 2012, 4:07 pmAnyways, I implore those new believers to read the word in the bible for better understanding. It's for your own benefit not mine.

Christian know God through a relationship not by ritual service. And to know God you have to communicate with him in Prayer and to know him through the Bible which is God's love letter.

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