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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Feb 1 2011, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 1 2011, 05:45 PM)
That's a GND and not a ND right?
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Yeap, Graduated Neutral Density filter. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 1 2011, 05:51 PM)
Hi aldosoesilo and really appreciate your lengthy explanation. Honestly, I never thought someone could have explained in such details as most will only post up links to wiki and asked to digest by themselves. Thank you notworthy.gif

Probably I should make clear of my question. I'm a IT guy myself and working as a Software / System Engineer. I'm not gonna say I'm best nor good, but I'm kinda well-verse with computer architecture and therefore I do understand what you're explaining and the reading/writing speed thingy.

However, I'm actually more asking for the real situation that what may actually happen to the recording session on the camera in real-time (live) if it happens to be using a low speed card. Does the video recording failed? Jerky? Lagging or it wouldn't work at all?

Again, I apologize for not making clear of my question.

On the lens recommendation, a friend of mine do mentioned the 35mm 2.0 which cost around RM2K which is outburst to my budget at the moment. The maximum allocation I can put for the first package would be RM5,000 for everything including the body, memory card and filter. Which would be the better option for lens to fit the budget? smile.gif
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I remember back then when I have my 1st compact camera it was 2004/2005 if not mistaken my compact has video feature where actually my compact maximum fps is a way bellow than 24 fps. (for normal purposed video).

there was a school project which enforce us to do video kind of thing. since we were student and DSLR or handy cam is out of budget I decided to give my video function in compact a try.
as the result the video function in my compact is actually the biggest flaw of my compact. It didn't serve me well. as it will give you a sense of laggy feeling. (I think you can imagine this)

in the end I decided to throw away whatever I and my group did with the compact video function and just snap the picture one by one as it making the sense of motion.

IDK what will happen actually if your memory card a way bellow than standard for video as I don't do video with my DSLR.
but. . . I can sense you will experience what I experienced back then. anyway good luck bro wink.gif

err.. FYI 35 f 2.0 is 1k something.
so d7000 body new set will cost your 3.8k (quoted from LYP) or you can get cheaper if you are a good bargainer.
50mm 1.8 = approx 350
35mm 2.0 = approx 1k
35mm 1.8 = approx 780
1750 tamron non-VC = approx 1.1k
1755 tamron VC = approx 1.7k
1850 siggy = I am not sure but I think 2k ++
1755 VR kit lens. = second hard 300 - 350.

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1870 kit lens Nikkor = I got quoted second hand 580 <- IDK I really wanted to have this lens tongue.gif

so it's now decision. make the best combination with the minimum money thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 1 2011, 06:06 PM)
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Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro HSM around RM1.6k
Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM around RM2.4k

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QUOTE(shinjun @ Feb 1 2011, 06:01 PM)
Yeap, Graduated Neutral Density filter. biggrin.gif
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simply one half of such a filter (grad) is darker than the other, while the other half - in most cases - is completely clear.so basically it can be used to darken a bright sky so that both the sky and subject can be properly exposed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojo2fast/5160188581/
to produce this shot is it wise able to use filters?
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QUOTE(g_pentium @ Feb 1 2011, 07:29 PM)
simply one half of such a filter (grad) is darker than the other, while the other half - in most cases - is completely clear.so basically it can be used to darken a bright sky so that both the sky and subject can be properly exposed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojo2fast/5160188581/
to produce this shot is it wise able to use filters?
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no need filter.. it's purely luck
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 1 2011, 05:45 PM)
That's a GND and not a ND right?
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oh ya I mean GND tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 1 2011, 05:35 PM)
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Well, I have never come across to any sales man saying to me that I have need to buy lens filter. Most of the time is I'm asking them how much if I'm including it into the package. Basically to my current best knowledge about photography till today telling me that I need a lens filter to protect my lens. I do know about there are several types of filter and each will has different effect on the output. However, the most common one is UV and many people using it. I never know hood could protect the lens too as I always have a "thought" that a protection is something that "covers" the lens.

Therefore, if slow write speed memory card will cause the recording to fail. Alright, then I should know now that I must look into faster card such as the Sandisk Ultra or Sandisk Extreme Pro. Perhaps any recommendation for the MC? My plan to utilize the DSLR will be doing a lot of videos too smile.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 1 2011, 05:58 PM)
If you're going to kit lens package and have RM5K budget, get the 50mm f/1.8D prime lens; use it for indoors/lowlight situation, portraiture or when you need the shallow depth of field, blowing the background using wide apertures.

35mm f/2D I think is around RM1K
35mm f/1.8G DX is around RM760
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Are you referring to this: http://shashinki.com/shop/nikon-35mm-wide-...lens-p-259.html ?

This lens was recommended by another friend of mine instead of taking the kit lens. He doesn't recommend me to go for the kit lens if I'm looking to be in photography for long term.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 1 2011, 06:06 PM)
I remember back then when I have my 1st compact camera it was 2004/2005 if not mistaken my compact has video feature where actually my compact maximum fps is a way bellow than 24 fps. (for normal purposed video).

there was a school project which enforce us to do video kind of thing. since we were student and DSLR or handy cam is out of budget I decided to give my video function in compact a try.
as the result the video function in my compact is actually the biggest flaw of my compact. It didn't serve me well. as it will give you a sense of laggy feeling. (I think you can imagine this)

in the end I decided to throw away whatever I and my group did with the compact video function and just snap the picture one by one as it making the sense of motion.

IDK what will happen actually if your memory card a way bellow than standard for video as I don't do video with my DSLR.
but. . . I can sense you will experience what I experienced back then. anyway good luck bro wink.gif

err.. FYI 35 f 2.0 is 1k something.
so d7000 body new set will cost your 3.8k (quoted from LYP) or you can get cheaper if you are a good bargainer.
50mm 1.8 = approx 350
35mm 2.0 = approx 1k
35mm 1.8 = approx 780
1750 tamron non-VC = approx 1.1k
1755 tamron VC = approx 1.7k
1850 siggy = I am not sure but I think 2k ++
1755 VR kit lens. = second hard 300 - 350.

update*
1870 kit lens Nikkor = I got quoted second hand 580 <- IDK I really wanted to have this lens tongue.gif

so it's now decision. make the best combination with the minimum money  thumbup.gif
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Perhaps I would be able to pack one out with the D7000 body + 35mm 2.0. Anyway, I have always wish I could make myself more understand, why many people actually recommending the 35mm 2.0 than the 35mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8 or the 18-105mm 3.5~5.6 kit? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 1 2011, 06:42 PM)
Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro HSM around RM1.6k
Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM around RM2.4k
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I probably skip these two for the time being as it'll definitely exceeding my budget sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 1 2011, 07:59 PM)

This lens was recommended by another friend of mine instead of taking the kit lens. He doesn't recommend me to go for the kit lens if I'm looking to be in photography for long term.
Perhaps I would be able to pack one out with the D7000 body + 35mm 2.0. Anyway, I have always wish I could make myself more understand, why many people actually recommending the 35mm 2.0 than the 35mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8 or the 18-105mm 3.5~5.6 kit? unsure.gif
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For other I have no idea, but 50MM f/1.8 is a sharp lens that can slice thing up without effort xD
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 1 2011, 07:59 PM)
Well, I have never come across to any sales man saying to me that I have need to buy lens filter. Most of the time is I'm asking them how much if I'm including it into the package. Basically to my current best knowledge about photography till today telling me that I need a lens filter to protect my lens. I do know about there are several types of filter and each will has different effect on the output. However, the most common one is UV and many people using it. I never know hood could protect the lens too as I always have a "thought" that a protection is something that "covers" the lens.

Therefore, if slow write speed memory card will cause the recording to fail. Alright, then I should know now that I must look into faster card such as the Sandisk Ultra or Sandisk Extreme Pro. Perhaps any recommendation for the MC? My plan to utilize the DSLR will be doing a lot of videos too smile.gif
Are you referring to this: http://shashinki.com/shop/nikon-35mm-wide-...lens-p-259.html ?

This lens was recommended by another friend of mine instead of taking the kit lens. He doesn't recommend me to go for the kit lens if I'm looking to be in photography for long term.
Perhaps I would be able to pack one out with the D7000 body + 35mm 2.0. Anyway, I have always wish I could make myself more understand, why many people actually recommending the 35mm 2.0 than the 35mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8 or the 18-105mm 3.5~5.6 kit? unsure.gif
I probably skip these two for the time being as it'll definitely exceeding my budget sweat.gif
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I suppose because he knows you will meet your limitation soon enough by spending time on kit lens.
if you want kit lens get 18-70 second hand. thumbup.gif
and another reason is because initially you need kind of all-around-lens in order to you to get know what you wanted to shoot.

don't expect you are able to shoot landscape with your 50mm 1.8
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 1 2011, 07:21 PM)
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wow...nano lens.....jealous-nya.....lol
looking forward to yr stunning photos......to make worth of the money......
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 1 2011, 07:21 PM)
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I envy you I envy you. and I always envy you.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(d_lai_309 @ Feb 1 2011, 09:59 PM)
i can smell something......opssss
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another shot with kit lens 1855 VR
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Holy... balls... This lens will be in my bag SOON but not that soon. Rawr!
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QUOTE(g_pentium @ Feb 1 2011, 07:29 PM)
simply one half of such a filter (grad) is darker than the other, while the other half - in most cases - is completely clear.so basically it can be used to darken a bright sky so that both the sky and subject can be properly exposed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojo2fast/5160188581/
to produce this shot is it wise able to use filters?
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UV Filter. laugh.gif
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Guys I have a question in order to snap monochrome picture do you predefine it that you are going to shot monochrome or have do it on PP?

will that make difference?

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 1 2011, 10:35 PM)
Guys I have a question in order to snap monochrome picture do you predefine it what you are going to shot monochrome or have do it on PP?

will that makes difference?
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shoot in raw then tweak it later......
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QUOTE(d_lai_309 @ Feb 1 2011, 10:53 PM)
shoot in raw then tweak it later......
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I find myself interested on street photography with monochrome.
but I have no idea when actually a picture should be pped into mono.

I mean I don't want to have those monochrome picture w/o having a deep feeling as IMO monochrome is giving a deeper feeling about the photo.
how to understand if this photo better to be monochrome and that photo better to use vivid picture control, and that use natural picture control. can give me some hints sifu? notworthy.gif

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