well...all depend on yr mood and the way you look at the photos....
so best you go shoot more and back home try out the "feel".....then you will only know when u want mono or color etc......

vearn, if it was me: i'd just buy the d7000kit set. the 18-105 VR is plenty good for starters. you get a good range and VR to start with. great high iso performance + VR = winrar. people are recommending other lens just out of pure gear envy yes, those recommended lens are good, but not really essential for starters. you will know what you really need want later on.

further back you said you mentioned your quoted pricing: i'd take the first option (without filter and normal 8GB SD). and then buy another 8gb sandisk ultra from the forums (for your video needs). price should be cheaper than the other options. as for the filters and protectors, don't worry too much about it; your new camera is capable enough to take a lil' beating

well.. so it's more like try, check and see?
Thanks anyway.

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Since you said body greatly affect AF speed. will having D3s support the AF performance of tammy 1750??

Tamron 17-50 cannot use on D3s

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Oh ok take D300s for example. will it affect the AF performance?

Taking Tammy as example ?

17-55 la baru shyiokkk

The filter part, in the end, it's up to your own decision, is the price worth to pay for; If you want to get, just make sure you get a good quality ones; If you check out reviews/etc, you will see the comparison on each/some filters and how it will effect the outcome of the picture... even the well known brands.

For video, Sandisk has a new type of card specially for Video.
If you're going to shoot video a lot, you will need to consider getting a zoom lens and WITH VR (Vibration Reduction aka Image Stabilization); which the kit lens should fulfill your requirements.
Prime lens has no VR, so if you're shooting videos handheld with prime lens, you will suffer from shaky video AND without zoom you will need to zoom with your legs, thus again shake shake...
BUT with prime lens offering wider apertures, you can get very nice shallow Depth of Field on your videos.

Yes, that's the lens I'm referring to, it was recommended by many others too, especially KTCY
Basically, prime lens usually have better image quality, sharpness than zoom lens, not to mention kit lens...
Kit Lens have non-fix aperture and the aperture is not big enough, max only 3.5 at 18mm, and 5.6 at 105mm. In lowlight situation, it will not let in enough light, and if you want to blow out the background making the subject stand out, kit lens doesn't do well. But for general photography, it does well as well as provides good sharpness.

By the way, if you're new to DSLR and have been using digital camera, you will need to know about VR is built into lens (Nikon & Canon), compared to digital camera which have Image Stablization built into body.

yeah.. I really wanted to know will the slowpoke tammy AF performance increased by superb D300s AF motor?

I never buy third party. Period
I played with it but it just won't stay in my drybox

Okay then. Thanks
I know it since beginning you are Nikkor lover!


anybody mounted tammy 1750 on their d300s?

Not because Nikkor lovers. The lens itself can't make me to keep it.
CZ different story tho
I'd keep that ANYTIME !

And 17-50 really no point. Rather get any other Nikon kitty lens, eg 18-70, 16-85 !

I'm not sure for those lens with built-in motor will depend on the camera body or not.

But for those lens without built-in motor, which is screw driven, it will depend on the body motor. This, you will greatly see the difference when you mount the lens on lower end body compared to higher end body.

As for lens with built-in motor, what I know is, there might no be difference at all.
Example:
50mm f/1.4G is kind of slow, but 70-200mm f/2.8 is crazy fast.

Anyway, if you really want to see the AF speed of the Tammy.... check out YouTube.... there're many videos posted on the focusing speed of the Tammy, and you will come across some videos on the problems with the Tammy lens.
It's also mentioned the VC version focus slower than the non-VC version, it's also mentioned in the review by shashinki.

You can always test at the shop and compare; Will it be a problem for you? I'm not sure, depend what you're shooting. You can test the focus speed to and from infinity, then test of the AF-C speed as you change the focus subject, see how fast the lens re-focus and lock on, then do it manual way in AF-S, change subject and re-compose/focus. This might be important if you're shooting events or capturing moments. BUT, more importantly is the accuracy here.

@bold : that lens is fast on D700 and above body la

It's fast but slower than the 1.4D; Mansurov have D700 and have done comparison between all the 50mm.

Faster than on D700 and below
And to be honest, that guy use stop watch to calculate.
Do you guys need that micro second to capture a scene ? Be practical
Those micro second different is actually NOTICEABLE *laugh*

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Added on February 2, 2011, 1:09 amAnd taking Tammy into this is even a big laughter
Sorry, no offense but I just can't help myself giggle at those keep on complaining on the micro second slow focusing speed which actually means nothing when you're not shooting sports !

This post has been edited by KTCY: Feb 2 2011, 01:09 AM

I've used 50mm 1.4G many times before and to me i dont see the problem with the focusing speed. Probably because the i use it as a general purpose lens + for low light, not sports

See. Even low light no problems. AF-D under low light a little hunting, ya know